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New laws: No caffeine in beer, shark fins in soup [Teach Gay History; Free College-Illegal Aliens]
The Washington Times ^ | December 26, 2011 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 12/27/2011 12:32:47 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

DENVER — Starting Jan. 1, getting shark fins, caffeinated beer, cough syrup or a tan is going to be tougher than it was in 2011.

The National Conference of State Legislatures issued Monday its annual list of laws set to take effect in 2012, and there was nothing but bad news for connoisseurs of shark-fin soup. Oregon and California passed laws prohibiting the sale, trade, or distribution of the fins, which are considered a delicacy in China.

California also became the first state in the nation to require a prescription for obtaining any drug containing dextromethorphan, an ingredient found in many popular over-the-counter cough suppressants, including Robitussin, NyQuil and Dimetapp.

The law was prompted by a spike in the use of cough syrup as a recreational drug. A Food and Drug Administration advisory panel considered making the medications prescription-only, but rejected the idea in September.

Voter identification continued to be a hot topic for legislators in 2011. Four states — Kansas, Rhode Island, Tennessee and Texas — approved laws requiring voters to present photo identification before casting ballots.

A fifth state, South Carolina, had passed its own voter-identification law, but it was overturned Dec. 23 by the Justice Department. South Carolina is required to submit revisions in voting procedures for federal clearance as a state with a history of discrimination at the ballot box, but it can appeal Justice’s ruling in federal court.

Supporters say the laws are needed to combat voter fraud, but the effort has touched off an outcry among civil rights groups, which contend that the laws are aimed at suppressing minority-voter participation. The NAACP recently launched a campaign, Stand for Freedom, to fight voter-identification measures.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Kansas; US: Oregon; US: Rhode Island; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2012; bans; dreamact; gayeducation; laws; nannystate; voterid

1 posted on 12/27/2011 12:32:56 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

Welcome to Amerika.

PING!


2 posted on 12/27/2011 12:34:04 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Nanny State PING!


3 posted on 12/27/2011 12:36:21 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Warning about that site. Lots of pop-ups and who knows what else.


4 posted on 12/27/2011 12:41:20 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A fifth state, South Carolina, had passed its own voter-identification law, but it was overturned Dec. 23 by the Justice Department. South Carolina is required to submit revisions in voting procedures for federal clearance as a state with a history of discrimination at the ballot box

I have been looking for information on this. There are plenty of headlines on this, but none explain exactly how the Feds got veto power over a State's own voting procedures. Yes, I know about Civil Rights Legislation and Voting Rights Act - but can anyone point me to an article(s) that explains it clearly?

5 posted on 12/27/2011 12:43:50 PM PST by PGR88 (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Stupid, stupid, stupid.............

A prescription for NyQuil?????


6 posted on 12/27/2011 12:44:37 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“No caffeine in beer”

Coffee with beer chasers for me!


8 posted on 12/27/2011 12:48:42 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: MaxMax

It’s back door history, with no front door?


9 posted on 12/27/2011 12:49:02 PM PST by DocJ69
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To: MaxMax
And WTH is gay history?

Probably a lot like the New Russian History after WW II, you know where they invented everything and we copied them.

10 posted on 12/27/2011 1:03:45 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: PGR88
I have been looking for information on this. There are plenty of headlines on this, but none explain exactly how the Feds got veto power over a State's own voting procedures. Yes, I know about Civil Rights Legislation and Voting Rights Act - but can anyone point me to an article(s) that explains it clearly?

"Preclearance" was originally a temporary measure required by the Voting Rights Act of 1965, but it has been renewed by Congress many times (most recently in 2006, when it was extended for 25 years). If you want to read more, Google "preclearance Voting Rights Act."

11 posted on 12/27/2011 1:09:40 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Lame. I used to brew a caffeinated beer with Aged Sumatra I called “Headslam Stout”

The name was not hyperbole.


12 posted on 12/27/2011 1:10:49 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Why do people keep telling me Killcult is a Religion Of Peace?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We have too many laws in the first place. Prescription for NyQuil? You know what, why should we pay for some thing that a stupid meth head would do. I’m getting to the point where if that dumb meth head is a loser, it’s his dang fault, not you and me. We need to just get up and call him a loser and if he operates a vehicle under the influence, then punish him. We are becoming the USSR, heck, I don’t think even the USSR had laws this tough.


13 posted on 12/27/2011 1:11:47 PM PST by Nowhere Man ("What if the US became the USSR and the USSR became the US?? - Me, September of 1983)
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To: MaxMax
And WTH is gay history?

Syllabus sample as follows:

Chapter 1: Sodom and Gomorrah

Men who had sex with other men folks wanted to rape strangers - God destroyed their society!

Chapter 2: The Greeks of Sparta

Men wanted sex with men and boys - God destroyed their society!

Chapter 3: Romulus, Remus and Rome or is that ream us

Men wanted sex with men boys and She-wolves - God destroyed their society!

Chapter 4:French perverts of enlightenment Marquis de Sade

Sade wanted to have sex with men boys and animals before during and after torturing them - God destroyed him and left the French as a reminder that He destroys societies!
....

Chapter 13 Liberace and Elton John

Wanted sex with other men, boys, girls and anything that was fabulous. God used them to destroy western society!

Chapter 21 Barney Frank and the destruction of the World's strongest Economy.

A congressman who practiced sex with men; raped the country by his corruption and advocacy of irresponsible fiscal policy and immoral lifestyle. God destroyed the economy and society for electing Barney Frank.
14 posted on 12/27/2011 1:15:46 PM PST by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Lame. I used to brew a caffeinated beer with Aged Sumatra I called “Headslam Stout”

The name was not hyperbole.

Sounds wonderful! I love stouts. I you ever pass through Rock Island IL. check out the Blue Cat. The brew-master there seems to have a real gift for stouts.

15 posted on 12/27/2011 1:19:33 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Sounds like we are back to home brews and entertaining ourselves. Wouldn’t have anything to do with fines associated with such laws, would it? And finally, two words: track-able and traceable. Besides just look at the corpses of the old people and children stacking up because of these excesses.


16 posted on 12/27/2011 1:21:18 PM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I don’t know about the other laws, but the ban on shark fin soup is okay in my book, as the subhumans who supply the shark fins catch the shark, cut off its fin, and then drop the fish back into the ocean alive where it can no longer swim properly, so it slowly starves to death.


17 posted on 12/27/2011 1:31:15 PM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I brew my own beer (and coffee), so I'll do as I damn well please.

My younger daughter's in-laws are Cambodian, so shark-fin soup around here will contain shark fin. I don't ask what the nuoc mam contains.

Them that don't like it, they can pound sand.

/johnny

18 posted on 12/27/2011 1:32:15 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Bigg Red
as the subhumans who supply the shark fins catch the shark

While some do that, the practice has been heavily overstated by the media to get a reaction like yours in conservatives.

Lots of good meat on shark. I have recipes for most every part, except the teeth and the squeal.

Study, do, then speak.

/johnny

19 posted on 12/27/2011 1:38:11 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

On January 1, 2011, it will be illegal to be a Conservative or a Republician in California. Itwas secretly passed.


20 posted on 12/27/2011 1:49:22 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I did not mean to impugn the reputation of American fishermen. I was referring to those from other parts of the world.


21 posted on 12/27/2011 1:53:52 PM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

On January 1, 2011, it will be illegal to be a Conservative or a Republician in California. Itwas secretly passed.


22 posted on 12/27/2011 1:54:49 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My belief in our ability to keep our country, by simply voting with a ballot is fading with each passing day.

From the Declaration of Independence:

” That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”


23 posted on 12/27/2011 2:32:24 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Not kosher.


24 posted on 12/27/2011 2:49:07 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

I can agree with shark fins.


25 posted on 12/27/2011 3:08:56 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: onedoug
I'm not required to keep כשר.

/johnny

26 posted on 12/27/2011 3:28:59 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Lots of good meat on shark. I have recipes for most every part, except the teeth and the squeal.

I always check anymore to see if someone has already answered a post and you did. I think to throw away the rest of a shark besides the fin would be similar to slaughtering a cow because you like beef liver and then throw away the rest of it.

27 posted on 12/27/2011 3:30:05 PM PST by Graybeard58 (No Obama, No Romney, No Paul, No Huntsman. We can do better than that!)
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To: Bigg Red
Do you really believe that fishermen from the other parts of the world waste edible meat?

Really? Poor people?

You would rather believe what you saw on TV from the news?

Because we know the news media isn't biased.

/johnny

28 posted on 12/27/2011 3:33:15 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Bigg Red
Oh... and right before Spring Break... expect the shark attack stories from the media..

We're sure wiping out the sharks if they can still attack students in the Gulf and off the coast of Florida...

Let me guess. You own a television. And watch it.

And don't wash your mind afterwards.

/johnny

29 posted on 12/27/2011 3:35:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Nowhere Man
We are becoming the USSR, heck, I don’t think even the USSR had laws this tough.

Agreed.

I am a CDL driver. Just today I was briefed by my dispatcher on the new federal regulation regarding commercial vehicle drivers using hand held phones while driving. $2750 fine for the driver, and $11,000 fine for the company.

Now, folks are free to agree or disagree with this regulation that was put into place by unelected bureaucrats. But the regulation specifically states that it does not apply to any GOVERNMENT vehicle... local, state, or federal.

It only applies to us "little people, who don't work for the government... just like in the U.S.S.R.

30 posted on 12/27/2011 3:55:56 PM PST by PalmettoMason ("The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Certainly are getting exercised about this, aren’t you? I am just amazed that you know so much about me and the malfunctions associated with my cognitive processes. Perhaps I should forward all information to you before I allow it to be stored in my working memory.


31 posted on 12/27/2011 4:09:38 PM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Bigg Red
So, do you own a TV? Do you watch it?

/johnny

32 posted on 12/27/2011 4:16:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Bigg Red
And I'm just trying to stop media memes before they spread in the conservative forums.

This one is pernicious.

/johnny

33 posted on 12/27/2011 4:18:54 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: PalmettoMason
It was bad when they pulled this revenue project at the local level. The fines were just 3 digits.

When you get to 5 digit fines... that should be a felony (for the burro-craps).

And what exact part of the Constitution gives the Federal government that control?

It's a shaky bridge the feds are walking on, trying to bump revenues.

Might bring down the whole 'interstate commerce' thing except for dealing with interstate tarriffs.

/johnny

34 posted on 12/27/2011 4:26:23 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: PalmettoMason
I am a CDL driver. Just today I was briefed by my dispatcher on the new federal regulation regarding commercial vehicle drivers using hand held phones while driving. $2750 fine for the driver, and $11,000 fine for the company. Now, folks are free to agree or disagree with this regulation that was put into place by unelected bureaucrats. But the regulation specifically states that it does not apply to any GOVERNMENT vehicle... local, state, or federal. It only applies to us "little people, who don't work for the government... just like in the U.S.S.R.

This is no longer a DEM vs GOP issue. There are as many Nanny State Lawmakers in the GOP now as there are in the DEMs. The more they control the more out of hand things are getting including prescription medication.

It's going to take putting pressure on the elected to either stop or be voted out next election. In this day and time there is no reason anyone should have to get a prescription for cold medications that were OTC till a few short years ago.

I stated this on another thread and I'll state it on this one. The government can't even stop the flow in and out of it's own so called secured prison systems.

Every new "WAR" the government declares on something means less and less rights and freedoms for all especially the innocent. Problems like METH Labs are a direct result of the War On Drugs. These idiots are going to get it one way or another. Make it available to them made in a safe place under safe conditions so the rest of us can get our cold meds or whatever and not have to worry about Bubba with two functioning brain cells making METH next door or in his vehicle.

This has too end at some point and a sense of sanity restored in our government. If our elected from state lawmakers, sheriffs, etc to congress, judges, etc were forced to live their day too day lives under the very laws they create for us then it would stop.

BTW as for cell phone while driving? The biggest users I've seen are Cops. Of course other laws including speed limits going to roll call in their provided vehicle do not apply too them either.

35 posted on 12/27/2011 4:32:21 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Rebelbase

“Coffee and beer chasers for me’’< LOL! I think it’s back to burbon and Cornflakes for me.


36 posted on 12/27/2011 6:21:51 PM PST by jmacusa
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To: Bigg Red

Agreed. No doubt many Freepers will attack you because it’s liberals pushing for the ban. But, seriously....there are some things that just aren’t right, and it doesn’t make me an envirowacko.


37 posted on 01/03/2012 5:57:45 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Can you disprove the idea that people do this?

What is your evidence?

Sure it isn’t an issue with American fishermen. But, I’m amazed you think everybody in the rest of the world adheres to our standards.

Rather ignorant.


38 posted on 01/03/2012 6:03:48 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: rwfromkansas
Sure it isn’t an issue with American fishermen.

Then why is it busybody legislators in the US passing the law?

I know for a fact (having been to asia) that not everyone adheres to our standards. But if I catch a shark. I will make sharkfin soup. And eat the steaks,

My observation is that poor folks in that part of the world don't waste meat.

/johnny

39 posted on 01/03/2012 6:28:54 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rwfromkansas

Someone did attack me big time over my comments.


40 posted on 01/04/2012 6:58:57 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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