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Two claim Gingrich lobbied in 03
DesMoines Register | December 28, 2011 | Tony Leys

Posted on 12/28/2011 2:42:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Link only due to posting restrictions

The LINKED article describes Newt Gingrich and a meeting in 2003 with members of Congress urging their support on the Medicare Expansion Bill after he'd left Congress. (It passed -- barely)

The people interviewed are U.S. Rep. Jeff Flake (AZ- 6th) and former congressman Butch Otter (both have endorsed Romney). Otter is now the governor of Idaho. They feel Newt Gingrich was lobbying.

Newt and others dispute this.

You can decide.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: flake4romney; gingrich2012; gopprimary; iowa; lobbying; otter4romney
I posted this because I found this 2006 Red State blog post praising these same 2 elected officials (described as Libertarians) in connection with Ron Paul (now supporting Mitt Romney) coming forward to make a claim against Gingrich very interesting. (slow loading page -- but it will load)

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Red State 2006:

"Thank you, Jeff Flake, Butch Otter and Ron Paul"

"On Tuesday, the House debated the Administration's warrantless wiretapping program, and a Democratic amendment to prohibit funding for electronic surveillance, other than as authorized under FISA or other criminal wiretapping statutes.

As much as I hate to back Democratic initiatives, I was pleased to see this amendment considered by the House. I was even more pleased to see a number of Republicans back the amendment, including several moderates and three notable libertarian voices within Congress: Jeff Flake, Butch Otter and Ron Paul.".........

1 posted on 12/28/2011 2:42:12 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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[Representative Jeff] "Flake was born in Snowflake, Arizona (named in part for his great-great-grandfather, Mormon pioneer William J. Flake), was educated at Brigham Young University and was a Mormon missionary for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to South Africa in the early 1980s. He worked in the public affairs sector after college and served as Executive Director of the Foundation for Democracy in Namibia and Executive Director of the Goldwater Institute before entering the House of Representatives." Source
2 posted on 12/28/2011 2:48:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who paid Gingrich to lobby those men?

Or or did he talk to them as a concerned citizen?


3 posted on 12/28/2011 2:50:50 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

It’s described in the article.


4 posted on 12/28/2011 2:53:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hammond says he wasn’t paid.

It sounds like Gingrich occasionally tries to persuade fellow Republicans to support legislation, and a couple of Romney supporters are poisoning the well of good intentions.

I’m beginning to entertain some evil thoughts about Milliard Romney. It is one thing to be a weathercock responding to every political puff of influence, and being mean to the family dog, but scheming to damage another Republican’s professional reputation is unacceptable to all Conservatives. This indicates a serious flaw in the character of the former Gov. of Massachusetts and I believe he is unfit to be President.


5 posted on 12/28/2011 3:06:29 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

This is part of Newt Gingrich’s record and he will have to answer the questions. I did find the Libertarian connection interesting too.


6 posted on 12/28/2011 3:12:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There’s a searchable lobbyist database here which goes back most years between 2011 and 1998: http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/search.php

I did a query on Gingrich and he doesn’t come up.


7 posted on 12/28/2011 3:14:09 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Utmost Certainty

The dumb powers to be want Roomey and they want it over now.


8 posted on 12/28/2011 3:16:55 AM PST by scooby321
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To: Utmost Certainty

There’s also another one here: http://soprweb.senate.gov/index.cfm?event=choosefields

Searched by lobbyist name for ‘Gingrich’. Again, he doesn’t show in the records.


9 posted on 12/28/2011 3:17:13 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Answering question about past actions is good.

Character assassination via innuendo by another Republican is clearly out of line.


10 posted on 12/28/2011 3:21:35 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I lobby my kids to keep their room clean every day. That doesn’t make me a “lobbyist.” That term has a very specific meaning.


11 posted on 12/28/2011 3:22:11 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: ez

12 posted on 12/28/2011 3:24:55 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who: a private meeting of Republican House members

When: the fall of 2003

For what: Medicare prescription-drug program

Sounds like Newt best describe what was going on and if there are any similar circumstance of this nature.


13 posted on 12/28/2011 3:31:56 AM PST by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
[Representative Jeff] "Flake was born in Snowflake, Arizona (named in part for his great-great-grandfather, Mormon pioneer William J. Flake), was educated at Brigham Young University and was a Mormon missionary for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to South Africa in the early 1980s. He worked in the public affairs sector after college and served as Executive Director of the Foundation for Democracy in Namibia and Executive Director of the Goldwater Institute before entering the House of Representatives." Source

Just another example of Joe Smith trumping Conservatism.
14 posted on 12/28/2011 3:50:59 AM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Maybe romney should answer some bogus questions occasionally.


15 posted on 12/28/2011 4:44:31 AM PST by richardtavor
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To: richardtavor
Maybe romney should answer some bogus questions occasionally.

This shows how easy it is for Perry to make Romney stumble and stammer:

That's -- I'm running for office, for Pete's sake, I can't have illegals. [video clip] -- Mitt Romney, GOP presidential debate - October 18, 2011 - Las Vegas, NV

16 posted on 12/28/2011 4:51:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Come on! Why haven't you investigated Newt's actions while he was in kindergarten and First Grade?

I'm sure you can find impeachable offenses being committed there, you Slacker!

17 posted on 12/28/2011 5:00:10 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Redleg Duke

Apparently I don’t have to investigate anything.


18 posted on 12/28/2011 5:23:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh my.

Alinsky is for Perry now, I see.


19 posted on 12/28/2011 5:25:31 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (PERRY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: Son House

Did Perry bring Karl Rove on board?

What’s with the mudslinging from Perrywinkes now?


20 posted on 12/28/2011 5:27:04 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (PERRY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: SatinDoll

Newt was paid tens of millions of dollars by the healthcare industry (and nearly two million by the federal mortgage makers). He says all he did was offer them “strategic advice.” He didn’t lobby.


21 posted on 12/28/2011 5:41:57 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Did Perry bring Karl Rove on board?

Rove's Crossroads PAC, money and mouth are with Mitt Romney.

Care to comment on Newt?

22 posted on 12/28/2011 6:20:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Did you even bother to read my first post?

Probably not. It takes some thinking skills.

You just blindly attack.


23 posted on 12/28/2011 6:21:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I noticed that, just attack you and attack Perry despite the fact that the article is about what Romney supporters are saying. These enophites would rather wait until Obama is attacking before they wake up and realize the primaries are for preparation. Dumb dumber and dumbest!


24 posted on 12/28/2011 6:48:46 AM PST by McGavin999 ("If you'll have my back when I go to Washington, I'll have yours" Rick Perry 2012)
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To: McGavin999

You’d think I was making this stuff up!

This is something that needs to be read and absorbed.

And as you allude, better now than later.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2825770/posts


25 posted on 12/28/2011 6:59:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sorry, I can understand someone endorsing Romney in ‘08 when the only real alternatives were John McCain and Barack Hussein Obama. It was choosing the lesser of the evils when the only available choices were evils.

But there’s no excuse for any conservative to endorse liberal Romney this early in this election cycle when there are a number of more conservative alternatives.

No excuse whatsoever.


26 posted on 12/28/2011 7:32:07 AM PST by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

Newt and Romney are the same - establishment candidates. Newt is merely the backup for he establishment if Romney falls on his face. Newt is 2nd string establishment.

Any conservative in their right mind who is not incredibly intellectually lazy would do 5 minutes of web search on Newt and quickly surmise that Newt is smart enough, politically crafty enough, and compromising enough to do enormous damage to the country, since they could not help but come across his decade-long lobbying career since he left the House, which perhaps only he and Republicans fearful of “losing” the election, refuse to admit was lobbying.

Romney, of course, was the Republican “heir apparent”, meaning all the kings horse’s and men would line up behind him to continue on the path of Rome (grand scheme of global finance and laissez-faire morality that ends in national destruction).

It’s a question between those two of which would lead America further down the road to destruction in 4 years. And both, contrary to what some conservatives think, would be on a par with Obama.

Homeland Security overreach would continue as would islamic, leftist and homosexual appeasement, etc. Newt purporting to come out “hard right” in terms of the judiciary, etc., would simply be used by him with Democrats as a bargaining chip to get his legislation passed. A President, he would say, has to govern from the center.

Of course, I’m a Bachmann and then Santorum person, I know you’re a Perry person. And Perry does not have the laser-like wit or smoothness of N and R. I see Perry as not being able to stand up to lobbying pressure as well as Bachmann or Santorum, IMHO. It is interesting though to me as one who desires restraint of the Federal beast, that Perry’s support is so concentrated in Texas. All in all, he could be much better at blocking the progress of the beast than Newt or Mitt, both of which are quite scary, IMHO.

Let’s face it; any Republican administration will face 4 years of having everything including the kitchen sink thrown at it in an attempt to block it at every move and disparage the convervative and even more so the Republican brand. IMHO, we might as well gain some yardage for true conservative principles since we’ll be taking the flak anyway. A compromiser President will not look to gain yardage on such issues, but simply to make the economy look and feel better after 4 years. If the President is not a die-hard conservative and not actually advancing the right issues but negotiating them away in exchange for trade legislation, etc., America would be sliding into the pit of secular-humanist socialism anyway as it is now.

I’m still a Bachmann supporter, but Perry, IMHO, is certainly preferable to Newt or Romney.


27 posted on 12/28/2011 9:06:57 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Thank you for a thoughtful post.

Here is a bit about Gov. Perry you many not recognize but this is pure Perry (I’ve posted much about him but mostly the threads were hijacked to drive people away). But these two incidents are instruct of a broader governing style.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/276264/vetoes-rick-perry-katrina-trinko

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2787263/posts

A Postscript to that second link is that the group who opposed Perry and supported his opponent because of his veto, The Texas Medical Association, endorsed him for president, and its members are helping him raise money and make connections with medical groups in other states.

Gov. Perry stands on principle and brings people along (maybe not at first but in time).


28 posted on 12/28/2011 9:38:07 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; PieterCasparzen

Another example of bringing people along after standing on principle...Perry tells Iowans he opposes energy subsidies from the federal level...be they ethanol, oil and gas, wind, solar, etc.

Hopefully Iowans will want to adopt this principle even though it would mean no more federal ethanol subsidies and mandates...

Because it is the right thing and the most economically viable thing to do.

And the most Constitutional.


29 posted on 12/28/2011 10:23:45 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Redmen4ever

You have a reliable source for that which isn’t part of the MSM?


30 posted on 12/28/2011 12:39:54 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Redmen4ever

Newt Gingrich worked as a contractor for Freddie Mac over a period of about 6-8 years during which he earned $1.6Million dollars. That is around $250,000 per year. His contract was not renewed. Call it as you like, but that is not lobbying.

And do I have source for the above? Yeah, Newt himself.

By comparison, I as a contract electrical designer, can earn up to $110,000 per year, excluding overtime.

Newt’s pay at Freddy Mac as a knowledgable policy wonk wasn’t outrageously high.

I haven’t looked into the “millions of dollars by the healthcare industry” claims, but soon will. I do not expect those charges to have any more validity than the ones about Freddie Mac.


31 posted on 12/28/2011 12:51:41 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

Due to confidentiality clauses in our contracts, we are not releasing a list of our clients and members or information specific to any individual client or member.

check it our on:
http://www.gingrichgroup.com/

Sorry, you don’t get to know who have been Newt’s clients. They are protected by confidentiality agreements.


32 posted on 12/28/2011 12:59:15 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: SatinDoll

And beside $1.6 million is chump change as compared to the real money being taken out by Raines, et al.


33 posted on 12/28/2011 1:04:50 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever

Freddie Mac already violated the confidentiality clause, and Newt responded.

He won’t go into detail exactly what he did at Freddie Mac, but he did describe how many years he was under contract and how much money he made.

Those confidentiality clauses will not protect any client who tries to leak disinformation. I believe Gingrich will sue the shit out of them if they try.


34 posted on 12/28/2011 2:20:41 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"This is part of Newt Gingrich’s record and he will have to answer the questions."

He did:

"Gingrich addressed his support for the bill Wednesday after a campaign event in Iowa.

"I'm allowed as a citizen to say I'd like to see this passed and that's not lobbying," he told reporters in Mason City."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/28/gingrich-urged-yes-vote-on-controversial-medicare-bill-congresswoman-says/?hpt=hp_t1

Whatever government funds Newt saved from his leadership days and the "Contract with America," all were spent and then some thanks to his support for Medicare Part D. This country is in hoc for BILLIONS due to that unfunded entitlement monstrosity. That Newt still supports that legislation should be the final straw. Meanwhile no thanks to Newt:


35 posted on 12/28/2011 3:36:39 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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