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Gun swap is a weapon against freedom(CA)
signonsandiego.com ^ | 27 December, 2011 | Scott Rieker

Posted on 12/28/2011 5:06:05 AM PST by marktwain

Gun turn-in programs (“Annual gun swap hits its mark,” Local, Dec. 20) are the first step to disarm the citizens of the United States. They are designed to desensitize people to the action of giving up our arms at the request of the government.

The Founding Fathers wrote the Second Amendment in recognition of the God-given right to a person’s self-defense. As they had just fought a war against a tyrant, they recognized the need for every citizen to have the means to defend himself against criminals both local and governmental. Presently there is a modicum of respect (fear) of the people by the government because we have the means to defend ourselves; if we allow ourselves to be disarmed that fear will evaporate.

Once people are disarmed in the name of some peaceful Utopia, history shows that the people suffer. This is what happened with Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, in Rwanda and in many other countries. If you think it can’t happen here just look at the Japanese-American internment by Franklin D. Roosevelt. Along with the cry of “Give me liberty or death” goes “From my cold dead hands,” as once we have no means of self-defense, all that is left is the death of liberty.

It all begins with psychological disarmament through gun turn-in programs and in the schools, with our children being taught that weapons of self-defense are evil. When our children grow up with this belief, they won’t understand they have a right to self-defense and won’t miss it or their liberty. – Scott Rieker, San Diego


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; ca; disarmament; gunbuyback; gungrabber; gunswap
Gun "buy ups" are political street theater designed to delegitimize the ownership of guns.
1 posted on 12/28/2011 5:06:09 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; DoughtyOne

Think of as a ‘tax credit’.

Much like tax credits they use money they take from us in taxes to bribe those living here to conform to desired behavior, in this case to give up your guns.

Typically these give-ways are easy to scam, turn in a broken gun to get money to buy a new one.


2 posted on 12/28/2011 5:18:03 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

My understanding is that government gun buys/amnesties don’t run the weapons through “stolen gun” data bases, which really ticks me off, as these very people claim that they are getting “illegal” guns off the street. So if they aren’t stolen, how are they illegal? Are we to believe that felons are spending $400+ on straw purchases, so that they can get $50 from the police?

Of course, there is a lot of junk turned in, but why would any take $50 from the cops, when they could get more from the local pawn shop? There are only two good reasons. The gun is stolen or they themselves used it in a crime and they want the easy amnesty.


3 posted on 12/28/2011 5:27:44 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan
Of course, there is a lot of junk turned in, but why would any take $50 from the cops, when they could get more from the local pawn shop?

From what I've seen, they're all junk. Broken, rusty, non-functioning "guns".

Like all liberal initiatives, it's only designed to look good so they can feel (false) virtue.

4 posted on 12/28/2011 5:51:23 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: marktwain

How about an FR private party gun buy/sell/trade section?


5 posted on 12/28/2011 5:55:11 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo; Jim Robinson

“How about an FR private party gun buy/sell/trade section?”

Excellent idea!

Whatcha’ ya think, Jim?


6 posted on 12/28/2011 6:07:21 AM PST by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: panaxanax
Not to suggest actual sales take place via FR, just threads where interested FReepers talk about what they'd like to acquire, dispose of, or trade.

Perhaps make it a special log-in section available only to donating FReepers - help FR pay the bills, shun riff-raff, and establish some strict disclaimers each time you log in.

7 posted on 12/28/2011 6:26:25 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: marktwain

Only give them the ones that don’t work anyway.


8 posted on 12/28/2011 7:08:24 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: sickoflibs

It should be a REQUIREMENT that the turned in guns be checked as to whether they are stolen property or not. I’m willing to wager that a certain percentage ARE. But that of course would bring the responsibility of determining how the current holder came into possession of it and they’ve promised no action against that person.


9 posted on 12/28/2011 7:21:08 AM PST by hiredhand
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To: sickoflibs
easy to scam, turn in a broken gun to get money to buy a new one.

even better is the ability to fence stolen property or dispose of crime guns for cash...

'shall NOT be infringed' ring a bell ???

10 posted on 12/28/2011 9:33:26 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: sickoflibs; marktwain; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; DoughtyOne

Folks ought to set up near those swap areas and offer $50 bucks more than whatever the authorize swappers are offering. Buy them private sale.


11 posted on 12/28/2011 9:53:17 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Some have done this, but a few states, notably California, forbid private sales. That is what Bloomberg and his group of illegitimate mayors are after.


12 posted on 12/28/2011 10:32:01 AM PST by marktwain
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