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Christmas crackdown on fireplaces yields 400 complaints; New Year's may be next
San Jose Mercury News ^ | Updated 12/28/11 | Mike Rosenberg

Posted on 12/28/2011 1:10:13 PM PST by SmithL

The Bay Area's air-quality police were out in force over Christmas weekend, cracking down on wood fires. And the smoke cops could be sending out belated stocking stuffers -- hefty fines -- to several dozen people caught using their fireplaces.

Regulators said more than 400 people tattled on their neighbors for lighting wood fires in their homes on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, a holiday tradition that was illegal this year because of poor air quality.

Authorities say they didn't issue any fines on the spot but are sorting through 77 cases of potential violations after working overtime, patrolling in Toyota Priuses and natural gas vehicles to spot chimney smoke and respond to complaints.

Those caught burning fires in their homes for the first time since the winter "Spare the Air" campaign began in 2008 will receive a warning, while repeat offenders will get $400 tickets.

But the Bay Area Air Quality Management District isn't worried about coming off like a grinch -- and doesn't plan on showing any leniency just because it's Christmas time.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; goldenstate; liberals; nannystate; smokenazis; yourtaxdollarsatwork

1 posted on 12/28/2011 1:10:22 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

UNREAL! I live in Florida where chimneys are hard to find, but this crap goes on the Left Coast? People can’t even keep themselves warm during the winter... this is upside-down land, and I’ve only been alive for nigh over 30 years.


2 posted on 12/28/2011 1:12:28 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

“People can’t even keep themselves warm during the winter”

I think that’s where we’re headed. I fully believe that the “ruling class” would like nothing better than for the masses to be freezing in the dark.


3 posted on 12/28/2011 1:14:04 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: SmithL

Serves ‘em right. Who do you think keeps electing these uber-PC, leftist morons?


4 posted on 12/28/2011 1:16:20 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: SmithL

“It’s okay officer, I’m only burning medicinal marijuana in my fireplace”


5 posted on 12/28/2011 1:16:30 PM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: rarestia

I’m having a wood burning fire right now. It’s one of the few pleasures in life I really enjoy. If I’m denied this in the future, I’m moving.


6 posted on 12/28/2011 1:19:07 PM PST by Krankor ( spare time.)
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To: SmithL
more than 400 people tattled on their neighbors for lighting wood fires in their homes

Today it's fireplaces.

Next comes the neighborhood informants looking in your trash for patriotic contraband.

7 posted on 12/28/2011 1:20:46 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: SmithL
Authorities say they didn't issue any fines on the spot but are sorting through 77 cases of potential violations after working overtime, patrolling in Toyota Priuses and natural gas vehicles to spot chimney smoke and respond to complaints.

They patrol in smugmobiles - just to add insult to injury.

And people ask me why I left California...

8 posted on 12/28/2011 1:26:54 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Old Sarge
Today it's fireplaces. Next comes the neighborhood informants looking in your trash for patriotic contraband.

Oh yea! It all started with the crapo cigarette smoking band. I preached to all what this would mean as if restaurants could put their own ban on smoking. We are now going to have the Gestapo (TSA)at high school events ,buses, trains. This is why I'm looking for the place to move outside of this Banana Republic.

9 posted on 12/28/2011 1:30:24 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Old Sarge

Proving once again, the best neighbors are no neighbors.


10 posted on 12/28/2011 1:38:59 PM PST by Rich21IE
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To: Old Sarge
Next comes the neighborhood informants looking in your trash for patriotic contraband.

I use large rat traps in the garbage bags to break dogs of the habit of raiding them. Works usually after first snap on the nose, sometimes takes two.

Should work equally well on snoopy fingers.

11 posted on 12/28/2011 1:40:12 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: SmithL

This story makes me want to scream. What is happening to our beloved nation?


12 posted on 12/28/2011 1:40:12 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: SmithL
Authorities say they didn't issue any fines on the spot

Because they would have gotten their Prius driving butts kicked. The only thing I hate worse than totalitarians are cowards.
13 posted on 12/28/2011 1:41:33 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: RightOnline
Serves ‘em right. Who do you think keeps electing these uber-PC, leftist morons?

If I had to guess, 400 of them are the rat-bastids who called in the complaints....

14 posted on 12/28/2011 1:41:52 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: SmithL
"Regulators said more than 400 people tattled on their neighbors for lighting wood fires in their homes on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day"

There you have your perfect liberal society. Convince people that informing on your neighbors is your civic duty.

It's the inevitable conclusion of Dike Napolitano's "See something, say something" program.

Cameras on every corner, informants in every house--not a creature can stir, not even a mouse.
15 posted on 12/28/2011 1:43:30 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: SmithL
Sure would shut me down. I sell wood.

8cords

16 posted on 12/28/2011 1:47:58 PM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: SmithL

between CARB and the Thermal Police.. we’re skrewed.


17 posted on 12/28/2011 1:50:55 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: SmithL

In old Soviet Union that was called informing on, not tattling. The left coast lefties call it practice.


18 posted on 12/28/2011 1:51:32 PM PST by Rytas
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To: SmithL

the latest narc on yur neighbor program .. where have we seen that before? ;-)


19 posted on 12/28/2011 1:53:22 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: gettinolder

My first picture post, sorry about the large size. I’ll get dialed in.


20 posted on 12/28/2011 1:54:06 PM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: gettinolder

Fine with me. that’s some nice looking wood :).


21 posted on 12/28/2011 2:10:25 PM PST by GOP Poet (Time for Bambi and his commie crew to go.)
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To: gettinolder

Looks good to me..


22 posted on 12/28/2011 2:10:42 PM PST by BooBoo1000 ("Think for yourself")
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To: gettinolder

Looks good to me..


23 posted on 12/28/2011 2:10:58 PM PST by BooBoo1000 ("Think for yourself")
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To: SmithL

As someone who was born in LA and moved shortly after I can confidently say that i will NEVER go back to CA. I regularly burn fires in my two fireplaces, and with 6.5 acres of woods that I keep clean, I burn well over a dozen brush fires every winter. Never mind the camp fires I have in my three fire pits scattered around the property.


24 posted on 12/28/2011 2:18:05 PM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: SmithL

Cruising around in the Prius on Christmas day, huh? I smell OVERTIME.

Using Algore logic, couldn’t you just buy fireplace offsets?


25 posted on 12/28/2011 2:24:42 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: SmithL
Uhh, I live in the SF area and I agree with the liberals on this one. We have had an inversion for about a month and the air is grimy. Smoke from fireplaces does not go up; it just stagnates and hangs in the air. My eyes have been burning and my nose running from this filth.

You do not get to piss in my well and you do not get to put filth in the air I breathe. If you want to burn wood, keep the smoke in your house. To paraphrase Jefferson, your rights end at the tip of my nose.
26 posted on 12/28/2011 2:33:45 PM PST by fifedom
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To: SmithL
Authorities say they didn't issue any fines on the spot but are sorting through 77 cases of potential violations after working overtime, patrolling in Toyota Priuses and natural gas vehicles to spot chimney smoke and respond to complaints.

Wonder how much they get paid for working overtime on Christmas?

27 posted on 12/28/2011 2:34:17 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: RightOnline
Who do you think keeps electing these uber-PC, leftist morons?

Unfortunately, these are not elected morons. They are appointed morons. In 1955 (yes, 1955), the California legislature created the Bay Area Air Quality Management District as the first regional air pollution control agency in the entire US. It was the first such agency that could control air emissions across political boundaries. It is comprised of the nine counties in the SF Bay Area. The thinking was that these nine counties share common geographical features and weather patterns, and therefore similar air pollution burdens, which cannot be addressed by counties acting on their own. The BAAQMD is the public agency "entrusted" with regulating stationary sources of air pollution in the nine counties.

BAAQMD held a series of public hearings on fireplaces in 2008 and got an earful from the citizens about the ban (including me), but, predictably, they totally ignored the input and passed their radical agenda anyway.

The irony is that hardly anybody around here uses their fireplace anymore anyway. The air still gets crappy when we have "stuck" high pressure air over us resulting in no wind or rain to clean out the air. I haven't noticed one bit of improvement after banning fireplaces on "spare the air" days. On Christmas day, the air was particularly bad and nasty layer of foul air hung over the South Bay. We made our annual Christmas afternoon trip to the beach in Montara and sure did smell a lot of burning going on coast-side. I guess they figure that all the "inspectors" are busy over in the more densely populated Bay side of the hill.

It almost seems as if BAAQMD has an anti-Christian and anti-New Years agenda as they have predictably banned fireplace use on those days ever since the new rules went into effect.

One last thing. This article (at least in the print edition today) points out the fireplace nazis are using Toyota Priuses to go about their intrusive business. I guess we're supposed to be happy that the nazis are so "green" as they go about destroying our holiday cheer.

28 posted on 12/28/2011 2:34:29 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: gettinolder
"My first picture post, sorry about the large size."

Is that a shipping container full of firewood, my new best friend?

29 posted on 12/28/2011 2:37:11 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: SmithL

I thought this was satire - especially the part about the “Piouses”.


30 posted on 12/28/2011 2:37:50 PM PST by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: SmithL
Future Christmas Holiday song:
Chestnuts roasting on an open fire
SWAT team breaking down your door...
31 posted on 12/28/2011 2:41:08 PM PST by jmcenanly (Things will be better in 2013)
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To: SmithL
Here. I just picked several employees from the CA Air Resource Board and posted their names and salaries. I'm just guessing that their position has to do with inspecting fireplaces:

Merrin J Wright AIR RESOURCES SUPERVISOR $96,576.44
Brieanne R Aguila AIR POLLUTION SPECIALIST $96,308.59
John W Oback STAFF AIR POLLUTION SPECIALIST $95,537.54
Ronald J Nunes AIR RESOURCES ENGINEER $95,416.13
Steve P Hui AIR POLLUTION SPECIALIST $95,369.84
Michelle C Shultz-Wood STAFF AIR POLLUTION SPECIALIST $95,345.54

32 posted on 12/28/2011 2:42:28 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: SmithL
Neighbors ratting on neighbors? Smoke police checking for violators in their "Prius?"

Someone please tell me this is satire???

33 posted on 12/28/2011 2:44:02 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
You guessed it!

8 cords went to a customer in Juneau. He called this morning to say he'd received it.

34 posted on 12/28/2011 2:52:10 PM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: SmithL

My parents must be rolling over in their graves. Liberals are scum.


35 posted on 12/28/2011 3:00:40 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: fifedom
But the article reports about the "Spare the Air" program since 2008. Are the inversions on-going and do they really make such an impact to ban the activity entirely or would a temporary ban have been more rational? Not that I look for anything rational coming out of California anymore.
36 posted on 12/28/2011 4:01:52 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Oh yes we NEED a little Christmas....right this very minute!)
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To: SmithL

I’m a smoker.

They’ve been after us for over 20 years.

I can’t say I’m getting too worked up over this.


37 posted on 12/28/2011 4:10:59 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: prairiebreeze

“Not that I look for anything rational coming out of California anymore”.

Apparently even Freepers from California judging from the whiny post previously.


38 posted on 12/28/2011 4:17:00 PM PST by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: gettinolder

That’s beautiful wood, gettinolder. Do you deliver to Maryland?! /s


39 posted on 12/28/2011 4:18:57 PM PST by momtothree
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To: fifedom
Smoke from fireplaces does not go up; it just stagnates and hangs in the air. My eyes have been burning and my nose running from this filth.

I believe you are on the wrong forum, you should switch over to DU. The above statement is most likely a lie. How could your eyes have been burning and your eyes watering from wood smoke when no burning is allowed. Liberals always lie in order to prove their point, which in reality doesn't prove anything.

40 posted on 12/28/2011 5:06:44 PM PST by calex59
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