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Iowa's Final Flavor of the Month?
The American Spectator ^ | December 29, 2011 | Robert Stacy McCain

Posted on 12/29/2011 5:11:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa -- Rick Santorum took time to shake the hands of everyone who attended his "Faith, Family & Freedom Rally" here Wednesday night, and stayed nearly an hour after the scheduled end of the event to answer questions from the Republican audience. Only then did he take time to talk to the press.

"People are trying to determine right now, 'Who can we really trust?'" the former Pennsylvania senator told a small group of reporters at a brief impromptu press conference after the event. "I think it's going to build. I feel very good that we're not going to stop there and, hopefully, keep moving up the ladder."

The Republican presidential candidate was responding to the latest Iowa poll by CNN and Time magazine that shows him now in third place in the Hawkeye State, moving ahead of former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Texas Gov. Rick Perry. The poll confirmed the widespread impression of many Iowa-watchers that Santorum's low-budget campaign is surging in the final days leading up to next Tuesday's precinct caucuses. According to the CNN/Time poll, Santorum's support has increased from 5 percent to 16 percent in the past three weeks, while Gingrich's support has collapsed from 33 percent to 14 percent.

Santorum refused to speculate on how far "up the ladder" he might climb by the time votes are counted Jan. 3. "No, I'm not going to pick a number and no, I'm not going to tell you what place I'm going to finish," he told reporters.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gopprimary; iowacaucus
SANTORUM (53) – lawyer [Eckert Seamans Cherin & Mellott, LLC. – D.C. and Pittsburg offices since ’07] – Fox News Contributor - 16 years public office, U.S. House of Represenatatives, Pennsylvania [1991-95] - U. S. Senator [1995-07] lost bid for 3rd term by largest margin in PA GOP history]; author

BACHMANN (55) – lawyerMinnesota State Senate [2003-07]; U.S. House of Representatives [MN] [2007- _____] 8 years public office ; political activist; foster parent; 2011 autobiography

ROMNEY (64) – lawyer – Bain Capital – Massachusetts Governor [2003-07] 4 years public office, plus additional 6+ years running; 1994 U.S. Senator [MA] bid – lost; U.S. Presidential bids [2008, 2012]; author

PAUL (76) - U.S. House of Representatives [TX] - 20 years + 6-8 odd years running - Libertarian presidential bid [1988] – GOP presidential bids [2008-2012] -- U.S. Air Force flight surgeon [1963-65/Natl G. 1965-68] – OBGYN; author

GINGRICH (68) – U.S. House of Representatives [GA] - 20 years [Speaker 1995-99] Resigned from U.S. House of Rep after win - Fox News Contributor – adviser - speaker – author

PERRY (61) - Texas Governor [2000 - ______] – 20 years public office: TX Lt. Gov [1999-’00]; TX Agriculture Commissioner [1991-99]; TX House of Rep [1985-91] ; Cotton Farmer [8 years]; Captain, U.S. Air Force pilot [1972- 77]; author

1 posted on 12/29/2011 5:11:55 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m voting for Santorum.


2 posted on 12/29/2011 5:15:30 AM PST by Linda Frances
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To: Linda Frances

I’m supporting Perry.


3 posted on 12/29/2011 5:18:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“PAUL (76) - U.S. House of Representatives [TX] - 20 years + 6-8 odd years running -...”
He’s been “odd” for more than 6-8 years. IMO


4 posted on 12/29/2011 5:27:10 AM PST by duckman (Herman 2012 was Zero's worst night mare.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think people are waking up.

Romney and Newt are both what outsider would call moderare republican, or freepers would call liberal. Newt was more conservative in the 1990s and more liberal in in the last 10 years. He was number one establishnent enemy of the emerging tea party, he led the opposition in ny23 against conservative and demanded that conservatives support that lesbian love activist, acorn supported Dede S.
Newt led the attack against Ryan’s pending reforms (and Newt’s line about radical rightwingers will be seen in dems tv ads).
Newt joined Global Warming scam and “strongly supported cap and trade in distant past of 2007”. Newt supports ethanol subsidies and amnesty for illegal immigrants. His amnesty plan would permanently slide US into third world country. Yes, he is not mormon (the issue for.some who publicly said so) but in policy level Newt is radical leftwing social engineer.

Santorum is the best hope for conservatives. It seems Bachmann and Perry are not catching on, so conservative vote can make Santorum the surprise, like huck in 2008.


5 posted on 12/29/2011 5:30:16 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: heiss

Santorum is the best hope for conservatives? Please. Perry is the best hope for conservatives, but most of us are too da*med blinded by ideological purity and the lies of the MSM to see that.


6 posted on 12/29/2011 5:31:47 AM PST by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ll support anyone coming out of these primaries ................ EXCEPT Romney, and I’ll have to go into therapy in order to support Ron Paul!


7 posted on 12/29/2011 5:39:51 AM PST by Old Badger (I still like Palin because she will tell like it is!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I like Santorum but the GOP media are pushing this awfully hard. It's nice to hear good news as a candidate but Perry was at 16% last week in an IA poll and it was barely mentioned.

I have never seen an election where the "conservative" media and the GOP have tried to divide and conquer the Conservative base.

What I am hearing though is Bachmann and Newt are dropping in Iowa and the two Ricks are rising.

The biggest problem I see with Santorum is the same thing I see with all our candidates. There is no record to run against Obama with while he has been President.

Socially the Ricks are very similar but record wise Perry has a very successful one to counter the eventual Obama argument that he "inherited Bush's economy".

Perry has the answer to that and the facts show why we should have handled things like Perry did in Texas as opposed to how Obama did in DC. I think that will be what beats Obama.

8 posted on 12/29/2011 5:40:17 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy
* * *

Socially the Ricks are very similar but record wise Perry has a very successful one to counter the eventual Obama argument that he "inherited Bush's economy".

Perry has the answer to that and the facts show why we should have handled things like Perry did in Texas as opposed to how Obama did in DC. I think that will be what beats Obama.


You make a very important point. Both Perry and Obama "inherited" a government structure and an economy from GWB, which should provide a valuable basis for comparison of the two and their respective governing philosophies and policy choices.

Obama cannot win that comparison, period, and that is why - provided the GOP is smart enough to hammer on that comparison relentlessly (unfortunately, as too many on this forum illustrate, the GOP seems prepared to disappoint once again) - Perry stands a much better chance of actually beating Obama than do any of the others, including flava-of-the-day Santorum.


9 posted on 12/29/2011 5:45:44 AM PST by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: normy

Gov. Perry is right — Long past time to send the D.C. ruling class back to their states part of the year - get work and live under what they’ve wrought.


10 posted on 12/29/2011 5:49:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Oceander; Cincinatus' Wife
Once you brush aside all the emotional or personal feeling aside, this has always been why Perry can beat Obama.

The GOP thinks Mitt stands the best chance but Obama will paint him as a Wall Streeter who was part of the problem he inherited from Bush. You just see Obama speaking from the teleprompter "well, huh, huh, ya know, we were dealt a pretty bad hand...the uh..car was..ya know..in the ditch. Don't give the keys back to the same..uh..guys who crashed it. We're just starting to ..uh..pull it out but..you know it's gonna take time. It's happening but you gotta have patience on this."

Perry can say "Well Obama you may not noticed this but the car is actually a 4x4. In Texas we just got out, locked the hubs by cutting spending and keeping regulation in check and signing things like tort reform, and drove it out and we're back on the road. Texas will have a 1.6 billion dollar surplus by the time our part time congress meets again to pass the next budget. We created 45% of all the jobs in the USA right down there in Texas while you and your solutions not only lost 2 million jobs but put us 4 trillion in debt and cut our bond rating and that doesn't even account for your foreign policy disaster leading to our drop in respect around the globe and loss of trust amongst our allies."

11 posted on 12/29/2011 6:06:06 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Oceander

Perry is acceptable, but I still don’t trust him in amnesty. His most recent statements in campaign website are ok, but his earlier statements are scary. He seems to be hedging his bets. His job as a candidate was to assure people but he has failed.


12 posted on 12/29/2011 6:10:19 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: normy

The D.C. Ruling class and the MSM want pliable, moderate Romney (or big government solutions Gingrich). The idea of D.C. outside Rick Perry, who actually will make changes to their elite structure (and seal the border and NO amnesty), scares the hell out of ‘em, so they employ news blackouts or news beat downs for Perry.


13 posted on 12/29/2011 6:15:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: heiss

Santorum is Romney’s best hope to win Iowa.

I smell a rat, a big fat media rat trying to pimp Santorum at the last minute to divide the conservative vote just enough to let Romney slip in for the win with his meager 25% that he has had all year.


14 posted on 12/29/2011 6:15:51 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: normy

Socially the Ricks are very similar but record wise Perry has a very successful one to counter the eventual Obama argument that he “inherited Bush’s economy”.


But perry would blow that excellent point trying to articulate it. He just can’t speak.


15 posted on 12/29/2011 6:16:11 AM PST by Yaelle (Stepping aboard the Santorum train!)
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To: heiss
....but his earlier statements are scary....

Please say what scared you.

16 posted on 12/29/2011 6:16:37 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Yaelle
But perry would blow that excellent point trying to articulate it. He just can’t speak.

Even the biased MSM has left that one behind.

17 posted on 12/29/2011 6:18:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TexasFreeper2009

What are our goals? Could our vote get split because we all don’t prioritize the same? Maybe this needs a vanity thread.


18 posted on 12/29/2011 6:18:08 AM PST by Yaelle (Stepping aboard the Santorum train!)
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To: heiss
Perry is acceptable, but I still don’t trust him in amnesty. His most recent statements in campaign website are ok, but his earlier statements are scary. He seems to be hedging his bets. His job as a candidate was to assure people but he has failed.

Fair enough; however, the potential risks of some sort of amnesty under a President Perry pale in comparison to the much higher risks of that under a President Romney and the near certainty of that under a President Obama; furthermore, while the risks of that under a President Gingrich are probably about as high as those under a President Perry, Perry still has a very strong record of positive, conservative governance that no other candidate can match, that even Obama cannot match.

More to the point, one should not dismiss Perry out of hand simply because his record as governor has a few non-conservative blemishes on it: not even Reagan's record as governor of California - or even as President of the US - was unblemished. What matters is the cumulative effect of that record: in balance, was it more conservative than not? On that measure, I think that Perry's record is sufficiently conservative and that he would be a credit to this country were he elected President. And no, I am not saying, or suggesting, that he would be some sort of latter-day Reagan, far from it; a President Perry will stand or fall on his own merits, exactly as Reagan stood on his own merits.


19 posted on 12/29/2011 6:22:17 AM PST by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I smell a rat, a big fat media rat trying to pimp Santorum at the last minute to divide the conservative vote just enough to let Romney slip in for the win with his meager 25% that he has had all year.

BIG! FAT! RAT!

20 posted on 12/29/2011 6:23:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Drudge is pushing Santorum non-stop now.

Romney’s campaign manager is a good friend of Drudge.


21 posted on 12/29/2011 6:29:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Heartless comment, implying twice, that we are heartless racists if we oppose taxpayer support for illegals
His earlier opposition to fence and everify.

Now he has softened his stance, but I still can’t forget these. Newt is openly pushing for amnesty, so he is the most dangerous candidate. Perry is much, much better. Whichever conservative candidate finishes highest in IA gets my support (santorum,bachmann or perry)


22 posted on 12/29/2011 6:31:54 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who is Romney’s campaign manager and what is his connection with Drudge?

Also, Drudge is very close friends with Ann Coulter. If Drudge continues to go after Conservatives like Newt, Conservatives will seek alternative websites.


23 posted on 12/29/2011 6:33:23 AM PST by show
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To: heiss
Heartless comment, implying twice, that we are heartless racists if we oppose taxpayer support for illegals His earlier opposition to fence and everify.

Perry said people "didn't have a heart" if they couldn't see the position these students have been placed in. He apologized several times, said it he was wrong to have said that; agreed with his wife that it was "insulting" to put it that way; has repeated it is a Texas decision to deal with a federal action of inaction on the border. He has always supported strategic fencing, sealing the border, killing off the cartels and clearly states NO amnesty. His opposition to E-verify has to do with it's awful accuracy and heavy burden on small business. He wants to make it stronger and more accurate.

24 posted on 12/29/2011 6:41:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: show
Nov 14, 2011: Special report: The golden age of opposition research Original source – Reuters .....Overall, Romney is thought to have the best oppo team in this Republican primary, with Yost as chief of research and Matt Rhoades, another veteran of RNC opposition research, as campaign manager. No one in the Romney organization would comment.

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Mitt Romney leads the Drudge primary....."Frustrated rivals think they know the secret: a low-profile, hard-driving Republican operative named Matt Rhoades, who is Romney’s campaign manager. Rhoades met Drudge, as POLITICO Editor-in-Chief John F. Harris and co-author Mark Halperin reported in their book “The Way to Win: Taking the White House in 2008,” when he became research director of the Republican National Committee and was introduced by his predecessor on a special trip to Miami. Rhoades has since been seen as a pipeline to the reclusive Drudge, who now has two veteran Washington reporters working on the site as well."....

“It’s no secret that Matt Drudge has a high-level friend inside the Romney camp, but his favoritism puts him noticeably out of step with other conservative media,” said an aide to one of Romney’s Republican rivals. “Sometimes it’s bias by exclusion, like when conservatives universally slam Romney for his RomneyCare speech and Drudge gives him a pass."........[and there is more] Source

25 posted on 12/29/2011 6:46:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Yaelle
That is not true if you have ever seen him in person or even heard a speech and he speaks from notes, not a teleprompter.

I refuse to lose to Obama by putting up inferior candidates who can speak in a debate but will get chewed up in ads and speeches instead of putting up the best candidate with the best record.

If we try to out slick or out personality Obama, we will lose. If we put a superior record up to Obama we will win.

We can't just say "vote for X because Obama sucks" we have to say "vote for X because this is what he has done with the same conditions as the current occupant."

Maybe a Perry/Newt ticket would be the key, hey Moses needed Aaron to talk to Pharaoh but it was Moses who had the record.

26 posted on 12/29/2011 6:46:26 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: heiss

Sheriff Arpaio endorsed him. That helps me accept Perry.


27 posted on 12/29/2011 6:46:53 AM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’d vote for Santorum if he were the candidate. He’s better than Mitt or Newt in my opinion.

I’m still waivering a bit on my vote. Perry has been my second choice for sometime..


28 posted on 12/29/2011 6:51:09 AM PST by stillafreemind
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To: stillafreemind

Gov. Perry has the best chance going forward — with his record, ground organization and funding. If he has a strong showing in Iowa, he will be a powerful force against the Romney wing.


29 posted on 12/29/2011 6:59:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I truly wish him well. I think Perry has been treated unfairly, even though his heartless comment and his HPV shot irked me in the beginning..lol.

I sincerely hope he is driven to govern by the Constitution as well.


30 posted on 12/29/2011 7:03:08 AM PST by stillafreemind
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To: stillafreemind

Thank you. He is.


31 posted on 12/29/2011 7:10:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy

“SANTORUM (53) – lawyer [Eckert Seamans Cherin & Mellott, LLC. – D.C. and Pittsburg offices since ’07]”


I had no idea Rick Santorum practiced law in the Berkshires of Western MA.

Oh, they meant *Pittsburgh*, as in the city in PA? What a difference an H makes!

On a serious note, I think that Santorum is peaking at the right time and could emerge from IA as the conservative (and non-heroin/Iran enabling) option to Romney. I predicted Newt’s rise several months ago; and I predicted, in Yoda-like fashion, that “there is another” and that it was Santorum about a month ago when Newt was starting to founder (that second prediction was more hopeful than anything else, but I honestly thought that Santorum might break through because he was the only conservative candidate who had not already been tried out and spit out by conservative voters). Santorum needs to finish at least third in IA and then take the battle to SC.


32 posted on 12/29/2011 7:12:49 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Pittsburg

My morning "oops" - Pittsburgh.

33 posted on 12/29/2011 7:26:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s OK.

BTW, looking at the brief bios that you wrote (and that I had assumed came from AP or something), Perry has held public office for 26, not 20, years, right?


34 posted on 12/29/2011 7:37:20 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Gracious. I was looking at the ‘91. I guess if you add his 5 years in the Air Force you could say he’s served over 30 years.


35 posted on 12/29/2011 7:41:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Thank you. Will stop visiting Drudge website going forward until he changes his bias against Newt.

Who knew that Drudge and Coulter would become anti-Conservative in the 2012 election? Disgusting.

Times have changed. Free Republic needs to start a main page like Drudge's and compete with his type of reporting. If Free Republic had a page that was a report site with links which is updated 24/7, it would become an alternative to Drudge's anti-Conservative propaganda.

Time to start boycotted both Drudge and Coulter. Any time Coulter is introduced as a voice for Conservatives, it needs to be shown to be a lie, that she doesn't represent Conservatives and needs to be introduced as an Independent Left leaning commentator.

36 posted on 12/29/2011 8:11:07 AM PST by show
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To: show

Drudge’s bias is against Gov Perry too — anyone who is, has been, or will be a threat to Romney.


37 posted on 12/29/2011 8:32:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I’ve noted in the past how Santorum was the only one not to have his moment. But the dark side obscured to me that he would have it at the ideal time. (Newt’s rise caught me off guard). I did call the fall of Perry. This has been a mighty strange election so far.

Am I too old to train as a Jedi?


38 posted on 12/29/2011 2:14:19 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Fear in your heart there is. The way of the Jedi is not sought; find you it will.


39 posted on 12/29/2011 3:59:41 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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