Skip to comments.Perry loses round 1 in Virginia ballot battle
Posted on 12/29/2011 12:41:28 PM PST by TitansAFC
I still don’t understand why it makes any rational sense to expect a candidate to get 10-15k signatures in order to appear on a state’s primary ballot. Seems like an awfully outmoded requirement.
That's why George Bush was there and the Algore objected to that.
Since then it's been the Democrat argument that election problems should never go to the USSC ~ but they can go to DOJ.
I think Gibney is going to hold a hearing on the 13th and make an immediate ruling that he doesn't have jurisdiction.
That's another reason for tarring and feathering the top Republican office holders in Virginia. They have caved in to the Democrats.
The problem is that even if he decides in favor at the hearing on the 13th, this is going to mean the ballot would have to be reprinted and VA is not going to like that.
This was all a set-up. Gingrich and Perry should both simply withdraw their names from the ballot.
Let Romney and Paul run against each other. And completely devalue the VA vote.
Does this problem/ruling only apply to the Primary?
Or does it carry over to the General Election in November??
No, this is for the primary. But the problem is that in VA the delegates are committed for the convention, which is the formal nomination, so therefore they can only vote for Romney or Paul (whoever wins).
I’m not sure if this is just a first-round thing, though. I don’t live in VA. But there are some states where the delegates have to vote for the winner of the state primary in the first round of balloting, but if there is another round, they are released.
Anybody from VA know?
Why can’t they disqualify the State of Virginia from the convention over this? Reject all of their delegates, since they have skewed the entire process?
Does anyone know?
Oh, I dunno. Maybe because the Republican Establishment is all for greasing the skids for Mittens?
The Estalishment isn’t going to DQ Virginia for doing what they wanted them to do.
But let me reiterate, that what I outlined is what SHOULD happen.
This whole thing is a nightmare. Obama will win if Romney gets the nomination, and maybe the GOP really does rig elections after all, just like the Democrats do. They are certainly manipulating this one for sure!
The rule is to keep small, fringe candidates from wasting the state party’s resources. So how is Paul on and the rest of the field off?
Governor McDonnell wants to be Romney's VP pick and I wouldn't be surprised if they have made some kind of secret deal....McDonnell gets serious consideration for the slot if he and the VA State GOP help Romney rig the primary.
Perry does have a good point. What if you, all by yourself, want to run for president but you’re from another state? If you’re running a one-man campaign, you’re legally barred from collecting your own signatures. But a Virginian candidate can do so. Seems like a clear violation of equal protection.
Now seriously, what troops out there would want to vote for either of these guys?
But I'm sure the printer (and they are all really hungry for business these days) can get 'er done!
So would it be legal for a state to say nobody who is from any other state besides theirs is allowed to be in their primary?
Do you think an election should be held by someone passing a petition around town and getting people to sign it, then calling who gets the most signatures the winner?
Should people have to be called in to a polling place on a specific day to write in their choices for who should get to appear on a general election ballot?
You’re comparing apples and oranges. Being able to get on the ballot is a fundamental aspect of a free and open democratic election. There should not be a prohibitively high bar set for that. Virginia is almost saying you have to prove you’ll win the election before you’ll be considered a candidate on the ballot. That’s not reasonable.
I don’t think verifying the signatures is a legal problem. Requiring signature collectors to be residents of the state might be. What’s to stop them from saying anyone who works on your campaign has to be a resident of the state? And the other legal problem is that they changed their rules in October, long after the signature collection period had begun and campaigns had made their plans.
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