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Why I'd back Obama over Ron Paul
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 12/29/2011 | Philip Klein

Posted on 12/29/2011 1:04:37 PM PST by TBBT

Rep. Ron Paul’s surge in Iowa has triggered a theoretical question for his rivals this week: given his foreign policy views, would they be willing to support him over President Obama if he were the nominee? Newt Gingrich said “no,” Mitt Romney said “yes.” But it is also a kind of an intriguing gut check question for conservatives on how they balance foreign and domestic policy. Having thought about it over the last few days and debated it on Twitter for a bit last night, I’ve determined that I’d very begrudgingly back Obama in such a matchup.

Now, if we were just to look at what the candidates stand for on paper, I’d be much more inclined to support Paul over Obama. I’m not only much closer to Paul on domestic issues than to Obama, I’m probably closer to him than any other GOP candidate. And this goes beyond fiscal policy. Having somewhat of a libertarian streak, Paul’s opposition to the drug war is actually a point in his favor as far as I’m concerned. But if we move out of the realm of a person’s stances and into the reality of what a candidate can realistically accomplish as president, the calculus starts to change. The reason is that presidents have a lot more latitude on foreign policy than on domestic policy.

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Paul will not be the nominee. But if it did come to past... I'd either not vote or do a write in if allowed.

At least Gingrich stood up and said he wouldn't vote for the nut case either. Better performance on this than Romney or Santorum.

Paul currently only serves as a Romney stalking horse...

1 posted on 12/29/2011 1:04:49 PM PST by TBBT
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All because Paul is against the UN, WTO, NAFTA, Global Warming, IMF, etc....is really not a good a reason to vote for Obama.

Some people think that Ron Paul gives them the right to go liberal


2 posted on 12/29/2011 1:07:48 PM PST by RealImmigrant (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: TBBT

All because Paul is against the UN, WTO, NAFTA, Global Warming, IMF, etc....is really not a good a reason to vote for Obama.

Some people think that Ron Paul gives them the right to go liberal


3 posted on 12/29/2011 1:08:11 PM PST by RealImmigrant (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: TBBT

Philip Klein. Have to remember that name. And that there are circumstances under which he could actively support Obama.

Philip Klein, Philip Klein.

Got it.


4 posted on 12/29/2011 1:09:50 PM PST by DManA
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To: TBBT

Ron Paul is very good at energizing the youthful base and busing in volunteers for straw polls and the like. But he has never done more than a few percent in actual elections outside his district (where he buys the voters with massive pork). So his numbers are always suspicious.

If it ever did come to Obama vs Paul, then I guess I’d write in Sarah Palin or whoever had the best chance as election day came around. (But NOT Donald Trump.)


5 posted on 12/29/2011 1:09:50 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I wasted my vote when I was 18 when I did a “protest” vote and voted communist party.

Never again.


6 posted on 12/29/2011 1:11:29 PM PST by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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Even Ron Paul is better than Obama.. Obama is that bad..

To NOT vote for him in that case is politically suicidal..
Only an adolescent mind(mentality) could do what you propose..

Congress would limit most things Paul would do anyway..
Maybe not adolescent but the mind of a little girl..
You know...... a PollyAnna..


7 posted on 12/29/2011 1:13:34 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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Guess this means setting this election out really isn’t a vote for Obama after all. LOL

The hypocrisy on the right is astounding.


8 posted on 12/29/2011 1:17:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: SouthTexas

what the hell were you protesting?


9 posted on 12/29/2011 1:17:28 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: TBBT

Thank goodness we won’t be faced with such a horrible choice.


10 posted on 12/29/2011 1:18:11 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: RealImmigrant

“All because Paul is against the UN, WTO, NAFTA, Global Warming, IMF, etc....is really not a good a reason to vote for Obama. Some people think that Ron Paul gives them the right to go liberal”

Some people? Conservatives, Independents and Reagan Democrats you mean...the people we need to elect an R POTUS. Paul is a Libertarian and are considered third party by reasonable people. Paul’s anti-semitism, racist overtones, isolationism and general goofiness are the reasons people are afraid of him. I won’t vote for him because of Drug Legalization in addition to the others. I see you conveniently left all those matters out.


11 posted on 12/29/2011 1:18:23 PM PST by jessduntno (The Republican elite hates him, Rove hates him, Boehner hates him, liberals hate him. It's Newt!)
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And that there are circumstances under which he could actively support Obama.

Hypothetical circumstances. But worse: Very actual circumstances under which he feels it necessary to broadcast that fact to the world.

Regards,

12 posted on 12/29/2011 1:18:56 PM PST by alexander_busek
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Nope Nope Nope could never do it.

Could never bring myself to vote for Obama.

Obama will ruin this country domestically and economically before Paul could ruin it militarily. I’m not a Paul supporter, but I would vote for him over a man who equates Christianity to service and Islam to faith.

Could never vote for a man who despises this country and won’t stop till he sees it in ruin.

I don’t think Congress would go along with Paul’s anti-militarism anymore than Congress would go along with Perry’s ‘Cut their pay and send them home’ boilerplate.


13 posted on 12/29/2011 1:19:06 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: TBBT

Given the chance, I’d back over Obama and Ron Paul.


14 posted on 12/29/2011 1:19:23 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: TBBT

No matter how he does, Paul will be done after Iowa.


15 posted on 12/29/2011 1:22:07 PM PST by Signalman
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To: hosepipe; TBBT
Only an adolescent mind(mentality) could do what you propose..

It is rather infantile, isn't it? I seriously doubt that Ron Paul would ever say something like, "If Gingrich is the nominee, I'll vote for Obama."

16 posted on 12/29/2011 1:23:55 PM PST by giotto
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RP is nuts but zero is pure evil so it’s not even close. An eccentric nut job is way better than evil. obama is the type of guy, if given a chance, that could start imprisoning his enemies (conservatives, libertarians, evangelicals, vets) or worse. Remember FDR imprisoned Japanese-Americans and Wilson took political prisoners, so it CAN happen here. zero could use the pretext of a war or economic crisis to accomplish these ends.


17 posted on 12/29/2011 1:25:32 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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There is absolutely no way, under any circumstances, that I would vote for Ron Paul.

But I am not worried about it because Paul will NEVER get the nomination.


18 posted on 12/29/2011 1:26:05 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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There is absolutely no way, under any circumstances, that I would vote for Ron Paul.

But I am not worried about it because Paul will NEVER get the nomination.


19 posted on 12/29/2011 1:26:17 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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“An eccentric nut job is way better than evil.”

That’s why the country would be better off with Biden; he’s a nut, but Obama’s evil.


20 posted on 12/29/2011 1:27:45 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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