Skip to comments.Santorum 'proud' of earmarks amid Perry attack
Posted on 12/29/2011 1:36:38 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum said Thursday that he's "proud" of the money he brought back to his state by way of earmarks, rebuffing new attacks by Texas Gov. Rick Perry.
Santorum said that if he were elected president, he would oppose earmarks -- the process by which a lawmaker directs spending to a particular project -- because Congress had placed a temporary moratorium on the practice.
But he didn't back down from new attacks this morning by Perry, who labeled the surging Santorum a "prolific earmarker," and launched a radio ad, to boot, echoing that charge.
"If you look at the Constitution, the Constitution gives the power of the purse to Congress; the Congress is the one that's supposed to spend the money," Santorum said on Fox News. "So the idea that earmarks is somehow against the Constitution or something that is illicit, that the congressman can or shouldn't do is simply, factually incorrect."
He was pressed as to whether the practice should still be encouraged, even if it weren't illegal, because of the public's perception that earmarking contributes to corruption in Washington.
"Ive defended my earmarks in the sense that I'm proud of the money that I did set aside for things that were priorities in my state instead of having bureaucrats do that," Santorum said. "But I've recognized that the American public have sort of seen this as a pox upon the congress and that's where the American public is today and as a president, it's sort of easy for me to say I'll oppose congressional earmarks."
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Equating the two men in this way provides a convenient symmetry, but its also a false comparison that misses why many free marketers are comfortable with Gov. Perry even while critical of Solyndra.
Iowa Farmer Today Decision time draws near - December 29, 2011:
The Iowa Corn Growers Association sent questionnaires to the Republicans involved in this years caucuses, then issued grades on how it judged those candidates as part of its Iowa Corn Caucus.
......The report cards issued by the corn growers spotlighted the differences between some of the candidates.
For example, U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, earned a D from the group, and U.S. Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., earned a D+ while Gingrich earned an A and Rick Santorum earned an A-.
President Barack Obama earned a B as did former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. Perry earned a C-. Herman Cain, who has since dropped out of the race, earned a D.....
GUESS WHO TOLD THEM THE TRUTH?
IMAGINE if it were Rick Perry or Newt Gingrich saying this.
ROMNEY (64) lawyer Bain Capital Massachusetts Governor [2003-07] 4 years public office, plus additional 6+ years running; 1994 U.S. Senator [MA] bid lost; U.S. Presidential bids [2008, 2012]; author
SANTORUM (53) lawyer [Eckert Seamans Cherin & Mellott, LLC. D.C. and Pittsburgh offices since 07] Fox News Contributor - 16 years public office, U.S. House of Representatives, Pennsylvania [1991-95] - U. S. Senator [1995-07] lost bid for 3rd term by largest margin in PA GOP history]; author
BACHMANN (55) lawyer Minnesota State Senate [2003-07]; U.S. House of Representatives [MN] [2007- _____] 8 years public office ; political activist; foster parent; 2011 autobiography
GINGRICH (68) U.S. House of Representatives [GA] - 20 years [Speaker 1995-99] Resigned from U.S. House of Rep after win - Fox News Contributor adviser - speaker author
PAUL (76) - U.S. House of Representatives [TX] - 20 years + 6-8 odd years running - Libertarian presidential bid  GOP presidential bids [2008-2012] -- U.S. Air Force flight surgeon [1963-65/Natl G. 1965-68] OBGYN; author
PERRY (61) - Texas Governor [2000 - ______] 26 years public office: TX Lt. Gov [1999-00]; TX Agriculture Commissioner [1991-99]; TX House of Rep [1985-91] ; Cotton Farmer [8 years]; Captain, U.S. Air Force pilot [1972- 77]; author
Okay I get the point that Santorum is more of a DC insider than Perry.But they are all politicians and get and do favors. None of them is perfect. As you know I am no ones bot; I support them all until I see any huge red flags..I am concerned of all the candidates getting wiped out one by one until no one is left but Romney or Paul.
Made the list for that point.
Drudge seems intent on elevating Rick Santorum so that the conservative vote is split and Romney will prevail.
November 16, 2011
Dear Leader Pelosi,
After reading about House Minority Whip Steny Hoyers outburst over my Overhauling Washington plan, I wonder if his obstructionism reflects your own opposition and that of the Democratic Caucus to urgent reforms the American people so vehemently demand.
After increasing the debt by $4 trillion in less than three years, no one can believe that Americans are satisfied with business as usual, and that a permanent political class in Washington can get us out of the mess you and your colleagues have created.
A part-time Congress with half the pay would still make $38,000 a year more than the average American family. Do you truly oppose lawmakers spending more time in their districts? Is it so important for the Washington power brokers to build their fiefdoms of influence, including providing bailouts to Wall Street while businesses on Main Street are being boarded up every day?
Here is the fundamental question: do you believe Washington is broken? Before answering that question, consider these facts:
1) the Washington Metro area is now the most affluent metropolitan area in the country because lobbyists, contractors, elected officials and bureaucrats have been insulated from the economic ruin prevalent in the private sector;
2) Congressional office budgets have doubled since 2000 while employers all across America are laying off workers;
3) Our nations total debt is nearing the size of our nations economy, increasing our dependence on competitors like China;
4) The number of Americans out of work has increased by more than two million since January 2009, despite the massive stimulus package Democratic leaders promised would revive the economy, and;
5) on top of the job-killing spending policies of the previous Congress, employers are faced with a staggering $1.1 trillion in costs related to federal regulatory compliance.
Do you truly believe the answer to massive debt, over-regulation and bloated big-government policies is to continue to protect the status quo, which enriches and empowers Washington insiders at the expense of the American People?
My plan would overhaul Washington, eliminating certain agencies and reducing the size and scope of others. It will force Congress to make the tough decisions to balance the budget or require a further reduction in their pay. It would end lifetime appointments to future appointees to the federal bench. I dont want to tinker around the edges when the American People demand a complete overhaul of Washington.
Let me conclude with an invitation: I am in Washington Monday and would love to engage you in a public debate about my Overhaul Washington plan versus the congressional status quo. I think it would be a tremendous service to the American public to see a public airing of these differences. Let the people decide. If Monday doesnt work, perhaps we could find a time in Iowa over the course of the next month to discuss these issues in front of the people of Americas heartland.
Should you choose not to respond or engage in such a healthy discussion, I will take it to mean you will continue your obstructionist ways in the face of much needed Washington reform.
Governor of Texas
I don’t view drudge doing this.Santorum jumped up in the polls.It is his turn to be eaten by his own.Perry, sadly may not be given another chance to be eaten by his own.I don’t like Romney and am not too thrilled with Gingrich.
I’m sure that Rick Perry is proud of the stimulus bailout money he took from Obama as well.
We got some “big bucks” earmark money for some absurd green projects. A few folks are getting rich...but real jobs??? nope...
Perry makes it so hard. The minute I decide to give him a chance and he goes after a good conservative. Why not go after Romney? Perry is always going after people who don’t deserve it. Very disappointed!!!!!
They are ALL campaigning.
It’s a campaign to win the nomination.
No offense I don’t mean this towards you really but you make my point.We are eating our own until Romney and bat shit crazy Paul are the only ones standing.Romney is made out by the media to be the king.It is Romney vs. the tea party and the tea party is eating they’re own for Romney.Yet each candidate struggling to get up in the polls has to smear the next that gets a few points ahead and in the end we have no one but Romney.I remember reading some story that Axelrod wants this hashed out as long as it can be and no rallying behind any one. They divide and will conquer all because my candidate not yours ________ just has to win.This won’t be nor is a normal primary.I believe the days are gone this time that the state of SC picks the eventual nominee.Because it is the GOP vs the tea party Obama wins;especially when the true tea party candidates are all being bashed and tossed aside as Romney shines.
Since they were supposedly done away with, has federal spending dropped by so much as a penny? The problem was never with earmarks, it was with out-of-control spending.
2008 all over again! They can read the GOP like a book.
And here comes RINO McRomney! (On a platter)
“They are ALL campaigning.
Its a campaign to win the nomination.
Thank you. For heaven’s sake, all the candidates are out to win, but for some reason Perry is expected to shut up and keep silent. Wasn’t Santorum jabbing Bachmann this morning? But THAT was different.
They are just angry that their NEW “Perfect Conservative” is just as big a mistake as their last NEW “Perfect Conservative”. With about the same chance of winning as Duncan Hunter had in 2008!
GHWB coined the phrase Voodoo Economics if I am not mistaken and he became Reagan's VP.
I agree with Perry if the news is true then it's not negative.
You have to draw the line. there appears to be over 40% tied up in Conservative votes in Iowa. It has to break someones way. It's not personal.
Did you read what Perry called earmarks?
“The gateway drug” to the out of control spending problem.
He didn’t say it was THE problem.
It’s a big problem, though...why? Because it hides spending in bills that are supposedly about something else and interferes with accountablity for it. It hooks the spender and the recipient of the earmark onto the federal government spigot...or I could’ve used a less nice word.
People say MJ isn’t so bad. But if it’s a gateway drug to other drugs, then it’s that old slipperly slope thing.
Perry often says things that others aren’t yet saying and it sounds strange to some ears.
He is way ahead of the game. If you would go to the mat to defend earmarks, you’re part of the problem not the solution.
Pretty good for a “dumb” guy.
Perry is a state power guy, as in the Constitution. If a community or a state want something, hey, go for it.
But for every community and state to depend on the Feds to fund stuff they want...
And to sneak it in...
Tweet from ABC reporter:
“Perry radio Ad hitting Santorum features fake gameshow called
“Wheel of Washington,” quizzes people about Santorum’s earmarks
while in Congress.”
Slide Show - 3 Perry events today had packed houses
I’m still trying to figure out why I never hear or read about “attacks” on Mittens by all these other candidates.
It really gets my spidey sense tingling.
“Im sure that Rick Perry is proud of the stimulus bailout money he took from Obama as well.”
Perry should have thought before he spoke. :)
btw, Ron Paul took ear marks for his state, even with all his fiscal conservative “talk.”
Carbon Copies [60 second video campaign ad]
And Perry's gone after Mitt (A LOT) on hiding his support for mandated health care (remember the $10,000. bet?).
Gov. Perry didn't make the mess in D.C., then dig the hole deeper with TARP and "stimulus."
Texas sits like a diamond in the "rough" that Obama and the Legislature have created.
Texas used the money better than it would have been used otherwise, so continue your weak attempt to whittle away at the one guy working his job (and being reelected).
The Feds take state dollars and then piddle them back to us -- telling us how to spend them. You might be interested to see how Gov. Perry handles this.
Gov. Perry sued for Texas' money (without Washington telling us how to spend it) -- And won! Promise Kept.
Gov. Perry and the state of Texas have spent over $400 Million Texas tax dollars on trying to secure the INTERNATIONAL border with Mexico. On top of that, Texas is forced by the Feds to pay for illegal incarceration, education, health care, crime and fall out from "funded" and unfunded mandates flowing from the Beltway.
Gov. Perry wants D.C. legislators to go home to their states and districts and live and work under the conditions they've imposed on America.
Video of Rick Santorum defending earmarks on FOX News program in 2009: http://bit.ly/vpccdq
[Just like George W. Bush] .......”He sees government as the means to conservative ends. But in using government to get conservative ends he has expanded government and set precedents for liberals to use government in the same ways for more liberal government. Rick Santorum was complicit in making Americans more dependent on government and justified it under the rubric of compassion.”
........”Governor Perry let loose the observation that George and the Bushies hate it when Perry calls him George in public has never been a fiscal conservative. Never? Wasnt when he was in Texas . . . 95, 97, 99, George Bush was spending money. He also criticized Bush as being limp on immigration.”.........
On the “Meet the Candidate” [extended] segment of Bret Baier’s Special Report program - Oct 19, 2011 - (guest Rick Santorum) the panel discussed with Rick Santorum his 2008 endorsement of Mitt Romney. (they showed a clip and then discussed it)
That year it was better not to endorse, in my opinion, and just go in the voting booth and hold your nose while voting for any of the choices.
The earmarks issue is not excusable to me...being on the wrong side of it. It’s one thing to say, yes, that was the system and I used it for my consituents, but it’s a terrible system and we must and will change it...entirely a different thing to defend it and praise it because you managed to get in some large chunks of other people’s money for your area’s pet projects.
In regard to Perry attacking Mitt...guess you haven’t listened to Perry either in the debates or in his interviews and campaign speeches.
You can’t have it both ways. You can’t condemn Rick Santorum for steering federal dollars to Pennsylvania while giving Rick Perry a pass for doing the exact same thing. I am not at all criticizing Perry here, but his house is made out of glass on this issue, so rock throwing should not be something to engage in.
Seriously ? Santorm is a big government Bush Republican who wastes his political capital on evangelical friendly rhetoric while accomplishing nothing.. If you loved Bush II you probably will like this guy.
The fact remains that Perry DID take stimulus money, while criticizing Santorum for taking earmarks. Personally, I don’t blame either for taking the money, because their states paid federal taxes, and they wanted to get some of it back for their states.
But Perry is hypocritical to bash another candidate, when Perry did something that some would call even worse.
Spin all you want. It doesn’t change the facts.
NO WAY is Santorum like Bush. First of all, Santorum has always been a FIGHTER, and Bush was afraid to use his VETO pen.
“and you know that I was a leader on welfare reform. I was the guy that led the charge in the US Senate and actually wrote the bill when I was in the House. I was the guy that actually helped end the federal entitlement. I embraced the Ryan plan and said it’s a good first step and frankly I would go even farther than that, ..”
Furthermore, the social issues are the most important issues of all, and nobody is more passionate about the life issue than Santorum. We all should be that passionate as we are killing over one million unborn babies each and every year.
“Spin all you want. It doesnt change the facts.”
No, it doesn’t. Perry happily took Obama stimulus money, but then criticizes Santorum for taking earmarks. DISINGENUOUS to say the least.
According to your own post, so is Mitt Romney. He's never held any elected or appointed office in Washington D.C. So what? Looking at your list, Perry has the longest "career politician" resume. This guy hasn't been in the private sector in decade.s
Likewise, Newt's supporters have been constantly bashing Santorum for endorsing Specter after Rove & GWB twisted his arm, but they have no problem with Newt endorsing the even more liberal Dede Scozzafava on his own accord.
Santorum's rise is really causing the rest of the field to start hurling stones in their glass houses. I guess they're having a rough time finding "dirt" on him that doesn't apply to their own camps.
It’s not for a lack of trying that Romney didn’t get installed in the Capital Hill Club, is it?
Besides, Romney is Obama Lite.
So what other points do you want to make?
Bottom line? These guys have far more in common with each other than either has in common with the tea party and reformers.
Perry changed parties in 1989, joining Phil Gramm and other conservative Texas Democrats, who now had a true ideological party with a burgeoning Texas GOP.
When Perry campaigned for Lt. Gov. , he and his campaign staff were in it to win and his hard-nosed style was against the "friendly" advice and request of GWB [in re-election bid for Texas Gov] and Rove to run easy against Sharp, a popular democrat (and Aggie friend of Perry's from their A&M years together). Rove wanted to broaden Bush's base for his upcoming White House run. Perry told them he'd run his campaign his own way, because he knew the voters would vote for Bush for Gov. and then cross back over and vote for Sharp (D) for Lt. Gov, if he just walked through the motions like the Bush-Rove team asked him to do.
Perry won the seat for Lt. Gov. -- the first Republican elected to that office since Reconstruction. Now 13 years later and into his 3rd term as Texas governor, the GOP holds a super majority. So Perry has earned his conservative spurs -- fighting both parties!
[The Bushes and Rove supported Kay Bailey Hutchison's primary challenge against Gov. Perry in the 2010 election too]
Rick Perry endorsed Al Gore in the 1988 Democratic Party Primary that Michael Dukakus won.
......."During his time in Congress, [Al] Gore opposed federal funding of abortion, voting in favor of a bill which supported a moment in silence in schools, and voting against a ban on interstate sales of guns. His position shifted later in life after he became Vice President and ran for president in 2000 Source
Gore his wife led the charge on putting warning labels on records back in the 1980s. In fact, Gore had an 84% pro-life record back in the 1980s:http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Al_Gore -- According to ontheissues.org -- Gore had an 84% anti-abortion voting record and voted pro-life 27 times. Evolving Gore the "evolved" Al Gore lost his home state of Tennessee by 80,000 votes and those 11 Electoral votes in his 2000 bid for the presidency.
Perry: Al Gore's gone to Hell
“Likewise, Newt’s supporters have been constantly bashing Santorum for endorsing Specter after Rove & GWB twisted his arm, but they have no problem with Newt endorsing the even more liberal Dede Scozzafava on his own accord.”
I’ll forgive Newt if the Newt supporters forgive Santorum. :)
Gosh, nobody is perfect, but Santorum is as close to being perfect as it gets, and I’m finding it so heart warming when I see interviews of religious folks in Iowa supporting Santorum because he is a good and moral man which tells us there are still a lot of moral voters out there. It will be wonderful to have a moral person in the White House again. Keep praying!
Happy New Year!