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ATF Management To Treat Gunwalker Crimes As Personnel Policy Violations
Ammoland ^ | 29 December, 2011 | David Codrea

Posted on 12/29/2011 1:53:52 PM PST by marktwain

USA --(Ammoland.com)- “Here’s one sure way to tell if the CYA higher-ups are serious,” Gun Rights Examiner wrote yesterday, citing Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives management blaming lower-level employees for the Fast and Furious gunwalking scandal:

“Will they dare help prosecute their allegedly wayward underlings, and risk them telling what they know? Or will they just point fingers down the ladder, all the while insisting no crimes have been committed, and counting on that to keep those being blamed (but not prosecuted) from lawyering up and spilling their guts?”

“I would place my money on the latter,” an insider source informed this correspondent.

Acting Director B. Todd Jones echoed that expectation in the December 24 Los Angeles Times puff-piece…

About David Codrea: David Codrea is a long-time gun rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He is a field editor for GUNS Magazine, and a blogger at The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance. Read more at www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/david-codrea

(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; ffcoverup; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; obama; personnelpolicy; ppviolations
Coverups have become predictable.
1 posted on 12/29/2011 1:54:07 PM PST by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker ping.


2 posted on 12/29/2011 1:55:20 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Whitewash.


3 posted on 12/29/2011 1:55:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain

Low-level ATF agents have a lot of power. They coordinated a rogue operation between the ATF, FBI, DEA, DOJ, DHS, BP, ICE and the IRS.


4 posted on 12/29/2011 1:59:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

Oh, good Lord!!! They are at it again!

PING!


5 posted on 12/29/2011 2:00:51 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: TigersEye

Not to mention the transfers of megabucks between agencies, ...which is blatantly illegal. And you left out the state department and the cia. Or is that cYa?


6 posted on 12/29/2011 2:05:45 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: TigersEye
Low-level ATF agents have a lot of power. They coordinated a rogue operation between the ATF, FBI, DEA, DOJ, DHS, BP, ICE and the IRS.

Not only that, but they are able to keep their bosses from firing them, or even investigating their activities very stringently. (unless of course, they suggest that the higher ups have some responsibility. Then they are savagely attacked)

7 posted on 12/29/2011 2:06:59 PM PST by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

I know how to tie the State Dept. and the CIA to “grenade walker” but I don’t recall seeing any info that directly ties them to any of the ATF’s “gun walking” operations. If you have a link to a story I missed that does I want it.


8 posted on 12/29/2011 2:17:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


9 posted on 12/29/2011 2:24:44 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: marktwain
When power appears to increase as you go down the chain of command I think that means someone is vigorously pushing responsibility down and away from himself. But that person would have to be insulated from any command above himself or be fully supported by it.

Who Can It Be Now?

10 posted on 12/29/2011 2:25:25 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain; MestaMachine
http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad359/Kc_lion/Funny%20Stuff/PicardRikerFacepalm.jpg

I pray the Days of the ATF are numbered, sadly I do not know if they are.

11 posted on 12/29/2011 2:30:00 PM PST by KC_Lion (I won't vote for a Pseudo Democrat Like I did in '08, I will write in Sarah's name if I have too!)
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To: TigersEye
IN AT THE BEGINNING, PART 1

IN AT THE BEGINNING, PART 2

IN AT THE BEGINNING, PART 3

In Part 4 of “In at the beginning” we will explore the interface between the State Department, the CIA and the Gunwalker Plot.


12 posted on 12/29/2011 2:34:24 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine

OK, I look forward to it.


13 posted on 12/29/2011 2:41:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain

Brian Terry must have violated section 1, Part 1:
It’s not about the law.


14 posted on 12/29/2011 2:47:46 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: TigersEye

A lot of it is already in there. The last part, part 4 is not out yet..


15 posted on 12/29/2011 2:49:53 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: KC_Lion

They will ramp up after the election if obama stays in office. Bet on it.


16 posted on 12/29/2011 2:51:55 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine
They wont have too because if they do, it will be April 1861 all over again, because of the kind of crap the ATF tries to pull here.

We want to chart our own destiny not have it be dictated by our Progressive Masters.

17 posted on 12/29/2011 3:12:58 PM PST by KC_Lion (I won't vote for a Pseudo Democrat Like I did in '08, I will write in Sarah's name if I have too!)
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To: marktwain

WHERE IS THE OUTCRY FROM CONGRESS FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.

Damn straight I’m yelling.


18 posted on 12/29/2011 3:13:18 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: TigersEye
Low-level ATF agents have a lot of power. They coordinated a rogue operation between the ATF, FBI, DEA, DOJ, DHS, BP, ICE and the IRS.

Good one! Those be powerful underlings!

19 posted on 12/29/2011 7:06:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: MestaMachine; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...
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Some interesting comments in here. Check out article, too.

Thanks Mesta.

20 posted on 12/29/2011 8:07:15 PM PST by LucyT
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To: marktwain
Uh oh, somebody is gonna get a nasty memo in their personnel jacket.
21 posted on 12/29/2011 8:14:49 PM PST by null and void (Day 1073 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

“It’s not about the law.”

The law has become merely a weapon - offensive and defensive - used by those in power. Not what the Founders intended, and not a good sign prognostically.


22 posted on 12/30/2011 8:01:59 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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