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Have the youth given up on Obama?
CNN World ^ | December 30,2011 | Brad Chase

Posted on 12/30/2011 12:20:06 PM PST by Hojczyk

The sobering reality: just 55.3 percent of Americans between 16 and 29 have jobs. And earlier this year, Americans’ student loan debt surpassed credit card debt for the first time ever.

In 2008, the youth vote helped sweep Barack Obama into office. Americans 18-29 spread the word on social media, energized fundraising and went to the polls.

In 2012, the youth vote is moving on and throwing those omnipresent “Hope” bumper stickers and t-shirts in garbage bins.

Not because of apathy. Not because another candidate generates more enthusiasm. Not because of his character. Not because they think voting is pointless. The 18-29 vote is up for grabs in 2012 because youth can’t afford cars to put bumper stickers on and those t-shirts are worn out from too many days sitting on the couch unemployed.

To win the youth vote in November, a Presidential candidate could start by:

- Creating a limited student debt forgiveness program: I

- Controls on Predatory Lenders/Servicers:

- Allowing Student Loan Discharge in Bankruptcy: I

(Excerpt) Read more at globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2012; buyersremorse; youthvote

1 posted on 12/30/2011 12:20:09 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Ah, yes. Win their votes through giveaways. Good idea!


2 posted on 12/30/2011 12:22:30 PM PST by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: Hojczyk

How about controls on predatory government? Anybody propose that one? How about predatory colleges?


3 posted on 12/30/2011 12:24:26 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Hojczyk

The comments at CNN are disturbing.

Defeating Obama will not be an easy task.


4 posted on 12/30/2011 12:25:20 PM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: Hojczyk

Not to worry......Bama gonna come through with some dime balls on election day.


5 posted on 12/30/2011 12:26:52 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: OrangeHoof

No, see, we can only regulate entities that actually promote capitalism. So loan companies are “predatory” because they require customers to pay a lot of money for a product that rapidly loses value and ends up costing more in the long run. Conversely, colleges are laudatory because they encourage students to invest in their futures and earn degrees that are tragically crowded out of the marketplace of ideas by big ol’ mean Republicans with business degrees, thereby costing their recipients lost salaries in the long run.


6 posted on 12/30/2011 12:29:57 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: Hojczyk
The Pied Piper will play his usual tune and they will come....

I call it Michael Jackson syndrome.

7 posted on 12/30/2011 12:30:25 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Hojczyk

The “youth” need to be confronted with their greed.

Their whole reason for supporting socialism in general and 0bama in particular is that they wanted to get the “stuff” that those who have paid their dues and earned through a lifetime of hard work

without working for it and earning it themselves.

That’s all it comes down to.
“The old farts got all the stuff and I don’t got nuthin”


8 posted on 12/30/2011 12:32:23 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Hojczyk

“Have the youth given up on Obama?”

If they have ANY common sense at all...YES.


9 posted on 12/30/2011 12:37:58 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: MrB

GW Bush and the Republicans in Congress managed to:

1. Change the bankruptcy laws so student debt was not dischargeable in a b/k court filing.

2. Pass Medicare Rx plan law that will transfer huge sums of wealth from the poorest age demographic to the richest age demographic.

3. Scumbag Boehner this year demanded only one budget reduction line in the sand on the omnibus budget... the ending of interest and principal payment deferral programs for Federal student loans,.. of all of the trillion dollars of pork in the Federal budget, he targeted only one demographic, the current and recent college graduates, Boehner is a scumbag who will NEVER gain the support of the youth vote, his continued presence in GOP leadership means the GOP party of old stupid rich people will NEVER gain the youth vote, even in an election cycle like this one where the youth vote is low hanging fruit.

The GOP explicitly declared warfare against the youth and young adults of this country.


10 posted on 12/30/2011 12:42:28 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Hojczyk
Expose the youth of America to the exciting ideas of Jefferson, Madison, Adams, Washington, and the other truly revolutionary men and women of 1776 and 1787, and those youth will see through the counterfeit idea of "redistribution" which is killing their chances for freedom and opportunity.

The problem is that so-called "progressives" rejected and censored the Founders' ideas from the textbooks, and youth who sat in the classrooms now are reaping the consequences of the bogus economic ideas they were taught.

A good dose of the explicit statements of the Founders might "unclothe the emperor" and reveal the counterfeit nature of his policies.

11 posted on 12/30/2011 12:44:59 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: OrangeHoof
Exactly.Also who put the “gun” to peoples heads to take out loans they can not repay or refuse to pay.College and home ownership is not a right.Democrats and their ilk are slime;socialism is the scurge of society.
12 posted on 12/30/2011 12:51:25 PM PST by shanover (All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree.-J.Madison)
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To: brownsfan
That is why we are a republic.If society were run by the people (i.e. the passions of the masses),we would not recognize our country.That being said,Obama’s America will resemble this until it breaks up like most failed states.
13 posted on 12/30/2011 12:57:10 PM PST by shanover (All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree.-J.Madison)
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To: Hojczyk

“The sobering reality: just 55.3 percent of Americans between 16 and 29 have jobs. “

And the sobering reality is most of these jackasses deserve it.

THIS is the “Hope and Change” they voted for when they put that subversive Marxist Muslim in the White House.

Couldn’t happen to a better bunch.


14 posted on 12/30/2011 12:59:18 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: JerseyHighlander

What vesting do most young adults have in society?I served my country and refuse to be a victim.Loans are not grants or government ATM.I repaid and so can they.If they are unhappy,they can vote the bums out.If I remember correctly,Obama and the Democrats had plenty of time to make change.Most do not know who Boehner is let alone pronounce or spell his name correctly.Yes,compasionate conservative Bush at the end was wrong but Obama supersized everything Bush did.Obama amplified the bailout mentality under a socialist agenda.Young adults need to grow up and stop bitching and “occupying”.Live a few responsible years and earn your keep in a country that men spilled blood for.


15 posted on 12/30/2011 1:21:25 PM PST by shanover (All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree.-J.Madison)
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To: shanover

Your wisdom and insight are right on the money. Soon......the handouts from Obama will have to cease!!! Why? No money and a bankrupt USA!!! The teenies ought to wise up and realize the gravy train is coming to an end. And.....while we are at it, Black Americans also better get on board and throw Obama under the bus!!! Fact: There is no such thing as a free lunch!!! Period!!!

Life is really going to be miserable when we spend ourselves into empty pockets!! And....with & under Obama and the Democrat Party, the failure end of the USA is in clear sight. Can’t happen here, you say!!! Really!!!

Ever hear of the empires of Rome, Persia, Egypt, USSR, Greeks, Germans (NAZI,s), Japan, Ottoman empire, etc. Think the USA is any different. Just take a good look how one man, Obama in three short years has destroyed the USA economy and put our nation in real harm’s way!!! Better start getting real folks, all folks!!! We are headed for the same fate as our forebears!!!


16 posted on 12/30/2011 1:31:12 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Hojczyk
In 2012, the youth vote is moving on and throwing those omnipresent “Hope” bumper stickers and t-shirts in garbage bins.

Not because of apathy. Not because another candidate generates more enthusiasm. Not because of his character. Not because they think voting is pointless. The 18-29 vote is up for grabs in 2012 because youth can’t afford cars to put bumper stickers on and those t-shirts are worn out from too many days sitting on the couch unemployed.

I don't buy that at all. They will vote socialist because they need someone else's money. They know they won't do as well under the Republicans. - Tom

17 posted on 12/30/2011 1:38:29 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

They don’t want to pay their dues,
and they don’t want anyone else being rewarded for doing just that.


18 posted on 12/30/2011 1:41:12 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Hojczyk

“To win the youth vote in November, a Presidential candidate could start by:

- Creating a limited student debt forgiveness program:

- Controls on Predatory Lenders/Servicers:

- Allowing Student Loan Discharge in Bankruptcy:”
I’m pretty sure hussein will have put all of those features in place by Nov.


19 posted on 12/30/2011 1:41:31 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: VegasCowboy

“Ah, yes. Win their votes through giveaways. Good idea!”

It’s been working ever since Roosevelt. Why mess with a winning formula?


20 posted on 12/30/2011 1:55:57 PM PST by webstersII
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To: Hojczyk

CNN-Obama put this out, and as always, it’s bogocity is pegging the needle.

The Millenials will vote as a block for the Kenyan Muslim because they’ve been told it’s hip and cool, and they aren’t racists, are they?

Besides, if they vote for the Kenyan, it’ll be easier to get laid by the hippie chicks.


21 posted on 12/30/2011 1:57:15 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: shanover

I like not only what you say, but how you say it as well.


22 posted on 12/30/2011 1:58:59 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

“The teenies ought to wise up and realize the gravy train is coming to an end.”

So the youth need to be cut off but we still should be supporting the old people with giveaways? I refer to medicare, since at least with social security they have paid into it.

When you look at the cost of Medicare versus student loans you see who is getting the most of the gov’t handouts.


23 posted on 12/30/2011 1:58:59 PM PST by webstersII
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To: Old Sarge

“The Millenials will vote as a block for the Kenyan Muslim because they’ve been told it’s hip and cool, and they aren’t racists, are they?”

I know quite a few Millenials who are just going to sit this one out. This has been the pattern of the youth vote for many years, just to sit at home and claim that it makes no difference who you vote for.

B.O. came along and gave them such hope and got them all worked up. But they are not worked up anymore, in fact they are ticked off. My prediction is that they will stay away from the polls in droves. If you are a college student your local polling place will prob be empty next November.


24 posted on 12/30/2011 2:18:33 PM PST by webstersII
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To: Hojczyk
The sobering reality: just 55.3 percent of Americans between 16 and 29 have jobs.

No surprise, they don't know anything, and 80% of them can't write, let alone speak, a complete sentence.

25 posted on 12/30/2011 2:24:14 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: ZULU

“And the sobering reality is most of these jackasses deserve it.”

I doubt that; while a few spoiled brats served as props for Obama’s “youth vote”, many of these people weren’t even old enough to vote in 2008. This group will be the main reason he can’t win next year, and not because of student loans (many don’t even have them); they will vote against him because they have no future with him in office. No work, no family, nothing - and they’re not happy about it.

Those that did support him certainly are getting their just desserts; I think ALL people in this demographic are learning more about politics and economics than ever before, and they are not alone. Homeowners everywhere are scrutinizing their property tax bills for the first time ever, and these newly-informed voters don’t bode well for Democrats/socialists.


26 posted on 12/30/2011 2:51:23 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: shanover

Today may be different because of the job market, but when I went to school my friends and I all worked. I had to borrow for part of my last year’s tuition, and when I was asked if I wanted to start paying after graduation I stated that wouldn’t be necessary - I was working full-time while going to school full-time. A year after graduation I didn’t owe anything to anyone.

I don’t know how schools are staying open now, with so many fewer job opportunities for students and such dim prospects when they finally do graduate.


27 posted on 12/30/2011 2:55:54 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: HIDEK6

O, U R 2 MEEN.


28 posted on 12/30/2011 2:58:25 PM PST by Ed Condon (Give 'em a heading, an altitude, and a reason.)
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To: Hojczyk
Obama’s disastrous economic policies have seriously degraded, perhaps irrevocably, the economic futures of vast numbers of young Americans.

This will not become obvious until a few years in the future, conveniently after the 2012 election, just how badly he has screwed young people. The fact is, young people are going to have to bear the brunt of Obama's policy to bring America to it's knees to create a Post American 21st Century.

They will be the first generation in American history to have a much worse standard of living than their parents.

29 posted on 12/30/2011 3:32:13 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li0no7O9zmE&feature=shar
Obammer and Congrees should watch this video....our kids will pay for this.


30 posted on 12/30/2011 4:04:16 PM PST by justkillingtime
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To: Old Sarge

“The Millenials will vote as a block for the Kenyan Muslim because they’ve been told it’s hip and cool, and they aren’t racists, are they?”

I know quite a few Millenials who are just going to sit this one out. This has been the pattern of the youth vote for many years, just to sit at home and claim that it makes no difference who you vote for.

B.O. came along and gave them such hope and got them all worked up. But they are not worked up anymore, in fact they are ticked off. My prediction is that they will stay away from the polls in droves. If you are a college student your local polling place will prob be empty next November.


31 posted on 12/30/2011 4:26:37 PM PST by webstersII
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To: brownsfan
The comments at CNN are disturbing.

Paid astroturfers. Be not discouraged.
32 posted on 12/30/2011 4:34:08 PM PST by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: kearnyirish2

How many Americanized teenagers do you see working service industry jobs in Kearny? Those jobs still exist, the workforce has changed.

NJ didn’t really create a single private industry job for 11 years, yet the state had almost a half million more residents.

The economy and employment situations in States like NJ/NY/CA/IL are really broken, and now after 10 years of NJ not creating any private industry jobs in net, we’re looking at another decade of no growth.

Will we see the state population rise another 450,000 in this decade? Who knows, cause they surely won’t be working if they move here.


33 posted on 12/30/2011 4:58:19 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Hojczyk
...erase all federal student debt for those with more than $30,000 in federal student loan debt and cut the bill by 10 percent for those with debts under that threshold. That still leaves students accountable – no free rides...

Maybe this isn't what he wanted to say, but to me it means if a kid has $30k of debt, they owe nothing. If they have $29,999 in debt, they now owe $26,999. Sounds like a free ride for some to me.

I think he meant to say 'erase all debt OVER $30k.'

*** And just in general, what about those poor suckers who got jobs and paid theirs off already? Sorry, chumps! See what happens when you are responsible??

34 posted on 12/30/2011 5:04:48 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Unfortunately, there are calls to erase the entire debt over $30,000. So the OWS trust-fund kiddies who went to Ivy league schools get it taken care of, while the poor do, too. It’s the ones who made the decision not to overspend for college that will have to pay, as usual.

And good luck ever getting a student loan again!


35 posted on 12/30/2011 5:21:02 PM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: JerseyHighlander

How many Americans do you see at all in Kearny? Not nearly as many as even ten years ago.

We did lose an electoral vote (even Jon Corzine admitted that without ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS we lost population). The fact is that many of those illegals took jobs that people my age did in high school or afterwards (landscaping, fast food jobs, gas stations, movers, etc.), and those jobs that weren’t taken by illegal immigrants were taken by LEGAL immigrants (been to a bank lately?).

NJ is simply turning into one giant underground economy, from jobs to illegal apartments, and it is no longer a viable tax base. As more “anchor babies” show up in public schools, housed in illegal apartments, the tax burden compels those who can flee to do so. The fact that our houses have no value is the main reason why 75% of the Americans left in NJ are staying.


36 posted on 12/31/2011 1:55:30 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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