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Ron Paul: Know Who’s Really Behind Islamic Terrorism? The Jews.
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Posted on 12/30/2011 12:24:19 PM PST by mnehring

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1 posted on 12/30/2011 12:24:29 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

The more insane the statement by Paul, the worse the contortions of his suporters.
Just watch.


2 posted on 12/30/2011 12:30:00 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: mnehring

I wonder what Ron Paul’s present religious affiliation is?


3 posted on 12/30/2011 12:32:38 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Darksheare
The more insane the statement by Paul, the worse the contortions of his suporters.

Exactly...

Something like this...

"You're just not understanding what 'Dr. Paul' REALLY means. He is the only.. true..conservative....he..wants.. to.........re..store....con....sti...... *..

//bleeeeeep//..

//fade to darkness//...

(Paulbot needing battery change)

4 posted on 12/30/2011 12:36:01 PM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: mnehring

Jews, is there anything they aren’t responsible for?


5 posted on 12/30/2011 12:37:12 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: ScottinVA

The latest was to accuse Conservatives of supporting the UN.


6 posted on 12/30/2011 12:37:55 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: mnehring; Darksheare
EVIL JOOOOS!!


7 posted on 12/30/2011 12:38:15 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: mnehring

In Before the Paulbots.

Countdown begins

5,4,3,2....


8 posted on 12/30/2011 12:38:24 PM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: Old Sarge; mnehring

Can’t wait to see the Paulbots contort to defend this one.


9 posted on 12/30/2011 12:40:01 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: SumProVita

I actually looked this up the other day. I think a source I read said he had converted to the Baptist church at sometime for what it’s worth.


10 posted on 12/30/2011 12:41:14 PM PST by MachIV
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To: LdSentinal

What is it with all the Jew hatred from the left and Paulbots. It’s not logical. I DO NOT GET IT. Will someone please explain where all this comes from. They don’t even have enough in sheer numbers to be a threat. Anyone?


11 posted on 12/30/2011 12:43:47 PM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: mnehring
"Really Behind Islamic Terrorism? The Jews."

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr176/AllieRX87/OfCOURSE.gif

OF COURSE! Who else would it be?

12 posted on 12/30/2011 12:49:33 PM PST by KC_Lion (I won't vote for a Pseudo Democrat Like I did in '08, I will write in Sarah's name if I have too!)
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To: mnehring

Kooks always blame the Jews for everything bad that ever happens. It is one of the surest signs of insanity.


13 posted on 12/30/2011 12:50:32 PM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: mnehring

Mercy! Paul must be getting a lot of financial support from the Central Casting Division of the DNC. There’s no other explanation for someone like him getting this far.


14 posted on 12/30/2011 12:51:13 PM PST by bd476
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To: formosa; SJackson

I believe throughout history, it is the cultural value they have on education and literacy. (pinging SJackson, I think he wrote on this before). When your culture values education, you end up in more successful positions and thus, people who aren’t successful blame them for their failures instead of themselves.


15 posted on 12/30/2011 12:59:29 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

The escalating panic over Ron Paul is highly interesting.

First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.


16 posted on 12/30/2011 1:00:48 PM PST by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: mnehring

“Whether [the 1993 World Trade Center bombing] was a setup by the Israeli Mossad,”

He’s a dilusional nutcase.

“as a Jewish friend of mine suspects”

EVERY bigot has a “pet” friend of the group he hates.


17 posted on 12/30/2011 1:01:20 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: mnehring

If the Mossad was running our security, there would have been NO 9/11!!!!


18 posted on 12/30/2011 1:02:26 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: Romulus

“First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.”

Every defeated Quixotic fool thinks the same thing.

I’ve got a better one for you:

Goofy ideas breed resistance and derision.


19 posted on 12/30/2011 1:11:15 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: ZULU

Yes, and if the Jews really ran our financial system, we wouldn’t be $15 trillion in debt, now would we?


20 posted on 12/30/2011 1:13:45 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: Romulus

That quote is attributed to Ghandi who’s ‘winning’ resulted in the British leaving the Indian subcontinent resulting in the Indian/Pakistan civil war and one million deaths and is still resulting in one of the greatest nuclear threats we have now.


21 posted on 12/30/2011 1:14:04 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

If we started a rumor that Ron Paul is a Jooo who is “secretly” trying to destroy America, do you think Ron Paul would believe it? It seems like something he would print in his news letter.


22 posted on 12/30/2011 1:15:01 PM PST by Tramonto (Draft Palin)
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To: MachIV

I know that he was Baptist at one time. However, since his children were all baptized as Episcopalians...I began to wonder about this. Does he still attend the Baptist church? Which part of the Episcopal church might his family attend...the traditional or the liberal? It would be interesting to know the religious beliefs that help form his ideas. His anti-Israel tendencies are coming from somewhere.


23 posted on 12/30/2011 1:16:39 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Romulus
First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.

This is what EVERY losing candidate and failed movement claims. Usually things just end at the laughing part.

Ron Paul will not be the nominee so he won't be winning anything.

24 posted on 12/30/2011 1:17:35 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: ScottinVA

They’ve mostly moved to the fallback position now. They can’t defend Paul’s crud so they don’t try to. They just make statements like: “Boy, they’re reallyscared of him, arent’ they?”

Well yes, normal people do tend to fear the insane.


25 posted on 12/30/2011 1:17:37 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: LdSentinal
Jews, is there anything they aren’t responsible for?

Speaking as a Jew, I plead guilty to this:


26 posted on 12/30/2011 1:21:50 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Romulus

I see that you have nothing to say about the article content.
So, what do you think of it?
Do you agree with it or not?


27 posted on 12/30/2011 1:29:20 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: SumProVita

It’s Replacement Theology, the belief that the promises God made to and about Israel were handed down to the Gentiles in the Church when Israel did not accept Jesus as their Messiah.

It is, in my opinion, the most Satanic and dangerous hearesy to enter into the Church and has cost countless souls, not to mention lives.


28 posted on 12/30/2011 1:47:21 PM PST by Dogbert41
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To: Dogbert41

Good grief! Which denominations believe that????


29 posted on 12/30/2011 2:14:38 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Darksheare

With billions involved, have you undertaken to seek any accountability? Billions to Israel is not something to sneeze at. Why do the words “insane,” “kooky,”, “ridiculous,” “anti-semetic,” etc. pop up so quickly whenever aid to Israel comes into play? I would expect the same robust accountability imposed upon Israel as we impose upon the USA. Errr. . . wait. That ain’t happening, is it?

How much have we spent?
What has it purchased?
What have we received in return?

Just asking.


30 posted on 12/30/2011 2:28:30 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Why do we need to receive something “in return” for helping defend an ally and a threatened country? That’s a disgusting attitude to have.


31 posted on 12/30/2011 2:33:29 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Obama in 2012!)
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To: mnehring

Because we Jews are responsible for everything!


32 posted on 12/30/2011 2:35:13 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: mnehring

Does history bear out the fact there’s money to be made in playing “victim?” Yes. It applies across the board to humankind. If Israel is so smart and capable of prosperity, why do they need billions from the USA? People of Jewish faith deserve better, yet we treat them no differently than our ever-growing welfare population.


33 posted on 12/30/2011 2:40:31 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: Darksheare

Well, since you ask: I’d like to see cites where to prove RP really has said the things that have been attributed to him. Direct quotes only, please.


34 posted on 12/30/2011 2:41:22 PM PST by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Almost all aid to Israel is military, and most of that is earmarked to be spent in the USA. And that aid is only necessary because the USA bribes and arms surrounding Muslim countries, putting Israel at risk.


35 posted on 12/30/2011 2:47:19 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SumProVita

I am Baptist and Baptists have almost always been very very pro Israel. Many conservative movements have lost their way by becoming anti-semitic.


36 posted on 12/30/2011 2:52:22 PM PST by betsyross60
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To: Romulus

Here’s Ron Paul in 2009 accusing Israel of turning Gaza into a concentration camp, and excusing the terrorist bombers who blow up Israeli citizens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d1t4O9CcZQ0


37 posted on 12/30/2011 2:52:36 PM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I really didn’t directly respond because I figured you know this, but anyone who looks closely at the ‘aid’ we supply Israel it generally is on one primary front military aid. Military aid comes form our mutual defense treaties and isn’t just handing them cash but sharing resources. It really isn’t a lot either. A half dozen F111s would run over a hundred million. At that, if you look at the actual ‘foreign aid’ to Israel, most of it isn’t cash but resources and often it isn’t even ‘given’ but sold.

The question then is, is it in our interest. If one looks at the history of the region, one can see having a stable democratic society is like an outpost for our interests there. The existence of Israel could be preventing the Ottoman Empire Part II which would put a stranglehold on our economic interests.

The sad part about the world, but part of the reality we live in is influence has to be purchased. Even if we don’t want to, other nations will. Purchasing influence with cash or goods is far cheaper than trading bullets. Yea, it needs to be reigned in but the reality of how the cogs of the wold work can’t be ignored.


38 posted on 12/30/2011 2:55:17 PM PST by mnehring
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To: betsyross60

“...Baptists have almost always been very very pro Israel...”

YES, I know they have. That’s why I am wondering about where Ron Paul goes to church now...or even IF he does....or IF he even practices what his church teaches.


40 posted on 12/30/2011 3:09:13 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: mnehring

Thanks for that. Apologies for the double post. We’re up to c. 200 billion on Israel. I agree they need strong defense. Peace and prosperity are worthy aims. Just wonder why we are paying for it. I do not trust BIG GOVERNMENT, and I do not believe everything I hear or read.


41 posted on 12/30/2011 3:12:39 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

We don’t treat them like our ‘welfare population’. The last time I checked, we didn’t sell missile systems and F111s to our ‘welfare population’. They are capable and are pretty good at making their own technology, but they are also savvy and know it is sometimes cheaper to buy something from an external partner instead of producing it themselves.

Israel is not a welfare child, she is a partner.
We treat them like a strategic ally and a democratic outpost for our interests. They are a customer for our military technology in the same way dozens of other nations are. Being a customer for that technology is part of that alliance and keeps them from allying with, say, China.

You may recall in the 60s, there was actually a race between the US and Russia on making Israel her ally and partner- we obviously one and Russia chose to ally with Egypt and Syria instead.


42 posted on 12/30/2011 3:14:44 PM PST by mnehring
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Just wonder why we are paying for it.

If you look at detail into most of the transactions, more often than not, we are just selling it at a steep discount or is part of trade agreements. If we don't someone else will and that outpost will then have an interest to that party instead of to us.

Think strategically. If you are setting up a base of operations and a perimeter, you want to have the highest hill. Having an agreement with your neighbor to use that hill is in your interest and letting an opponent have that hill is against your interests. Israel is the biggest 'hill' in a region of the world that is strategically vital to our interests lest we have Ottoman Empire Part 2 have us in a stranglehold over a large percentage of our energy resources. We may not like it, but that is the reality of the situation and to play head in sand like Paul does (or worse, blame that ally for the ills of the world like he did in the source of the original article) works directly against our interests.

It is funny though+, Paul claims over and over to be a 'non interventionist' but he, as a representative of the US Government, constantly speaks out against us and our allies attempting to drive a wedge in there emboldening our opponents. If that isn't interventionism, I don't know what is (the difference is he is choosing to work against our treatied allies instead of for our interest). He has even gone to Iran's state media several times with these games. He is an interventionist of the worst kind.

43 posted on 12/30/2011 3:23:40 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Romulus; Darksheare
There's plenty of proof that Ron Paul is a dangerous kook.

TNR Exclusive: A Collection of Ron Paul’s Most Incendiary Newsletters

Ron Paul On the Issues

*Wartime brainwashing that Islam is inherently warlike. ( Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.239-240 Apr 2011)
*We're endangered as a result of our foreign policy. (Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p. 40 Apr 2011)
*We manufactured fear about Saddam, Al Qaeda, & Ahmadinejad. (Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.131 Apr 2011)

On the Issues got the quotes from his book Liberty Defined.

44 posted on 12/30/2011 3:25:51 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I don’t consider a country where EVERYONE serves in the military to be a victim of any sort. They deserve my tax money far more than our domestic welfare slackers who have no sense of duty, honor, patriotism, self-respect, dignity or work ethic.


45 posted on 12/30/2011 3:37:06 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Obama in 2012!)
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To: mnehring

This is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever seen.

The muzzie do it and the Jews get the blame.

Yea...right!


46 posted on 12/30/2011 3:41:03 PM PST by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: JediJones
That’s a disgusting attitude to have.

On the face of it, yes. From the perspective of accountability between people and governments it is a question that needs to be asked. (Did you buy your oppressed neighbor a Sigarm P22 for Christmas?) Israel has tremendous resources, both natural and human. They are a blessed, and great people. Above that tough as nails. We could learn a few lessons from them.

Ultimately wars are born from lack of faith in God's provision. So there will always be wars. It's not kooky or insane or ridiculous to assert that the United States and its people live prosperously and peacefully without expecting the globe to follow her ideals in terms of what constitutes freedom. Same goes for Israel.

This is not just about wars and the middle east, but about good government. Good government is a blessing from Above. At the same time, Above did not plan this world to last forever.

47 posted on 12/30/2011 3:41:51 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: SumProVita
Replacement Theology, aka Supercessionism was introduced in the Second Century. These groups adhere to it (in decending order of intensity):

Presbyterian
Roman Catholic
Lutheran
Episcopal/Anglican

48 posted on 12/30/2011 3:49:03 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: mnehring

Ron Paul is nothing more than a modern day version of WWII’s “Lord Hee-Haw.”


49 posted on 12/30/2011 3:50:29 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: mnehring

I understand the need to promote stability and be strong. Paul’s concern is in regard to our attempts at setting up cultural, political, religious ambitions in regions where our ideals are not accepted.

While we are dedicated to univeral propositions that addend to civility, we should not be so naive as to expect worldwide-wide acceptation. Where those ideals are not accepted, Ron Paul would prefer dialogue over war. It appears kooky in terms of the status quo, but . . . thinking locally . . . if the drug dealer next door is willing to barter for my services, I would not think it wise to threaten him with “accept Jesus first or go to jail.” At the same time, if that drug dealer would make any attempt to take my life or property he’d be dead before he could say “NaNCY pELOSI.”

I just don’t see Ron Paul as many major threat to American interests. I trust the people of this country and God Who made all things enough that hurling insults at Paul or his detractors is not at all beneficial.


50 posted on 12/30/2011 4:01:44 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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