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Will Google, Amazon, and Facebook Black Out the Net?
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Posted on 12/30/2011 1:05:04 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Will Google, Amazon, and Facebook Black Out the Net?

By Alec Liu

Published December 30, 2011 | FoxNews.com

In the growing battle for the future of the Web, some of the biggest sites online -- Google, Facebook, and other tech stalwarts -- are considering a coordinated blackout of their sites, some of the web’s most popular destinations.

No Google searches. No Facebook updates. No Tweets. No Amazon.com shopping. Nothing.

The action would be a dramatic response to the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), a bill backed by the motion picture and recording industries that is intended to eliminate theft online once and for all. HR 3261 would require ISPs to block access to sites that infringe on copyrights -- but how exactly it does that has many up in arms. The creators of some of the web's biggest sites argue it could instead dramatically restrict law-abiding U.S. companies -- and reshape the web as we know it.

A blackout would be drastic. And though the details of exactly how it would work are unclear, it's already under consideration, according to Markham Erickson, the executive director of NetCoalition, a trade association that includes the likes of Google, PayPal, Yahoo, and Twitter.

“Mozilla had a blackout day and Wikipedia has talked about something similar,” Erickson told FoxNews.com, calling this kind of operation unprecedented.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corruption; economy; hollywood; markets; netneutrality; sopa; sopablackout

1 posted on 12/30/2011 1:05:12 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Works for me.


2 posted on 12/30/2011 1:06:56 PM PST by yup2394871293
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To: Sub-Driver

heh - Atlas shrugging


3 posted on 12/30/2011 1:09:44 PM PST by TomServo
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To: Sub-Driver

No problem here.


4 posted on 12/30/2011 1:14:58 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: Sub-Driver
Their loss.

They could just open their checkbooks to the pols like everyone else does.

5 posted on 12/30/2011 1:16:24 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Sub-Driver

Good. SOPA will destroy the Internet and, effectively, turn it over to the Feds.

You KNOW something has gotta be bad when both Liberals & Conservatives want it stopped.


6 posted on 12/30/2011 1:16:51 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo
You KNOW something has gotta be bad when both Liberals & Conservatives want it stopped.

So SOPA is now in the same group as the Westboro Baptist Church.

Hmmm, I wonder if we could spread a rumor that Fred Phelps endorses SOPA?

7 posted on 12/30/2011 1:19:00 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hope they do. SOMETHING has to get through to those million-dollars career politician numbnuts in Washington.

I suggest sending messages to Lamar Smith (R-Texas) and all the other media- harlotting politicians who are sponsoring this bill.


8 posted on 12/30/2011 1:19:40 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Interesting isn’t it? Google and Facebook in love with this WH. I am suspicious of them.


9 posted on 12/30/2011 1:19:45 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11A)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Mozilla had a blackout day and Wikipedia has talked about something similar,”

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Big woop on Mozilla and Wikipedia. Who cares. But if Google, Facebook and Amazon went dark...

That would work.


10 posted on 12/30/2011 1:20:34 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I wish these folks that are fighting to keep the internet would fight this hard to keep their constitutional rights.


11 posted on 12/30/2011 1:23:24 PM PST by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: Glenn
They could just open their checkbooks to the pols like everyone else does.

It'd take a lot of money on their part to get the pols to give up their chummy relationship with Hollywood or to end their desire to control the internet.

What they ought to do is say that if this passes, they'll spend a lot of money defeating every single person that supported this legislation. After all, the pols care first and foremost about staying in Congress. Threaten that, and they'll back down.

The worst thing about this is that it's being driven by a Republican from Texas. Makes me ashamed in a way.

By the way, that sonuvabitch Lamar Smith is still defending this legislation.

I did hear from some folks who are going to work on booting Smith out of Congress. It may not be the next election, but they have plans to defeat him, and they've got the money, and redistricting may help. Smith may not realize that there are some rich folks in his district and elsewhere in the state that are opposed to this legislation, and one of them told me that they will be willing to spend a lot of money to defeat him.
12 posted on 12/30/2011 1:26:08 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Sub-Driver
First AND Second Amendments:


13 posted on 12/30/2011 1:33:15 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Sub-Driver

Similarly, I had an interesting encounter at a small town restaurant. The restaurant used to have a pianist, guitarist, harpist, etc., playing live music on Friday nights. One Friday, I asked the owner why he had no music. He told me he stopped hiring musicians because a union (AFTRA, I think) was going to charge him $5 per chair, in addition to what he paid the musician, because the musician undoubtedly would play some songs with copywrites.


14 posted on 12/30/2011 1:50:55 PM PST by JoeGar
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To: Sub-Driver

Incrediblle!
First we invent a way for the world to communicate and share then we frantically work to silence it.
All this with Islam looming-intending to bring back the Dark Ages.
Will this end up like the Tax Collector in the Popeye movie? People following you around taxing you for singing, talking, repeating anything ‘copyrighted’?


15 posted on 12/30/2011 2:18:30 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Sub-Driver

How can they black out when they have paid advertising on their sites?


16 posted on 12/30/2011 2:20:39 PM PST by 4buttons
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To: Sub-Driver

If they don’t, NetFlix will..........................


17 posted on 12/30/2011 2:20:54 PM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: TomServo

With all the Pr0n sites on the Net, will anybody notice?................


18 posted on 12/30/2011 2:22:39 PM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: Slings and Arrows

LOL Oh you genius you!!!


19 posted on 12/30/2011 2:47:28 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Sub-Driver

I like it,,, it’s time the A-holes in DC got a bitch slap. Replace their page for one day with a page explaining that congress is the cause.

A powerful weapon, to be used on VERY EXTREMELY rare occaisions. But im a nut who believes that an unregulated free net is at least as critical as the second amendment. If DC had to choose between full control of the net, or of guns, they would take the net. Without ability to spread word, fan flames, organize, spread truth, raise the alarm, etc. Guns are largely neutralized and can be mopped up one by one, as isolated “nuts”.


20 posted on 12/30/2011 2:47:28 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Old Sarge
First AND Second Amendments:

Won't protect Free Republic under SOPA. Under SOPA, the liberals could easily have FR shut down and Jim Robinson would have a hard time getting it back online.
21 posted on 12/30/2011 2:57:39 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: ClearBlueSky
First we invent a way for the world to communicate and share then we frantically work to silence it.

It's scary to think if the internet were being developed today, it would not be 1/10th as useful or free as it is now. Too many Hollywood folks and telecoms want to control what we do and how we do it, and they've done a damn fine job of buying both Republicans and Democrats.
22 posted on 12/30/2011 2:59:05 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

“the liberals could easily have FR shut down and,,,,”

And THAT is the true and only goal of SOPA, to supress the TEA style movements. They are bitter beyond belief at how hard we fought against healthcare and how we could organize and spread information.

They could care less about movie piracy or downloading a few songs.


23 posted on 12/30/2011 3:02:14 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: af_vet_rr

The internet got WAY out of hand before they realized how people would use it to expose them. They simply never dreamed what the meaning of it was,, and just thought if ot as a geeky online library with some news and shopping usefulness.

I highly recommend this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Hillarys-Secret-War-Conspiracy-Journalists/dp/1595552251

It details how Hillary made a giant effort in the mid to late 90s to literally let the government control content. This book will tell you what they STILL want to do, and how they think they can accomplish it. They only thing saving is is that they are always too far behind the power curve. As they plan how to silence facebook and google, the next ideas are already rattling around in some whizz kids head.


24 posted on 12/30/2011 3:12:07 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: RIghtwardHo

*blush*


25 posted on 12/30/2011 3:19:37 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Sub-Driver

when you see publicly traded companies literally giving up revenue in order to protest, it is called putting (some of) your money where your mouth is.


26 posted on 12/30/2011 4:09:22 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Sub-Driver

Turn it off, and never turn it back on.


27 posted on 12/30/2011 5:52:53 PM PST by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Sub-Driver
No Google searches. No Facebook updates. No Tweets. No Amazon.com shopping. Nothing.

I spend, well, too much time on the internet. None of those four items would affect me in any way.

28 posted on 12/30/2011 6:09:38 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: Sub-Driver
No Facebook updates.

No Facebook > Cocaine Withdrawal

29 posted on 12/30/2011 6:47:51 PM PST by GOPGuide
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To: Sub-Driver
If SOPA goes through with the current regime in power, you can bet that one of their minions will post something copyrighted on FreeRepublic and then report it to Holder, who will shut this site down without due process.

Mark

30 posted on 12/30/2011 7:18:34 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: DesertRhino

Amen. And we CANNOT forget that this legislation is being driven by a Republican.


31 posted on 12/30/2011 9:28:14 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: stansblugrassgrl
QFT

stansblugrassgrl: "I wish these folks that are fighting to keep the internet would fight this hard to keep their constitutional rights."
32 posted on 12/30/2011 9:39:10 PM PST by TheZMan (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2794639/posts)
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To: Sub-Driver

This sounds good to me. Based on everything I’ve read about it, SOPA is a disaster waiting to happen.

Of course, if it does pass, I can always dust off the ol’ Commodore 64 and start slumming the BBS networks at 1200 baud.

And if they go after that, I’ll break out my crystal radio set!


33 posted on 12/31/2011 1:08:21 AM PST by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Didn't Congress vote a few weeks ago to give the President the power to detain indefinitely Americans who are suspected terrorists? Obviously this is an infringement on the civil rights of all Americans.

Now we see what could possibly severely curtail the flow of information on the internet. It's getting very scary.

34 posted on 12/31/2011 1:17:42 AM PST by Crucial
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To: Sub-Driver

I got up at 4:30 this morning to watch a live special tv show from Japan. It streamed on Justintv and we had live subtitles from a group in Singapore.

I looked at my kids and told them that it was amazing when you think of it. However, there is a good chance that, although this show has been streamed and subbed every New Years for 5 years, next year this legislature may shut it all down.


35 posted on 12/31/2011 9:34:15 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: stansblugrassgrl

>> I wish these folks that are fighting to keep the internet would fight this hard to keep their constitutional rights.

bttt

It’s regrettable the dumb old shits in DC are empowered with the force of Statism.


36 posted on 12/31/2011 9:41:57 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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Do you enjoy the freedom of reading and posting articles and comments on FRee Republic?

Have you contacted your Senators and Representative and told them NO SOPA and PIPA? If not, maybe you don’t enjoy FR as much as you thought.


37 posted on 12/31/2011 11:21:12 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: af_vet_rr
The worst thing about this is that it's being driven by a Republican from Texas. Makes me ashamed in a way.

Lighten up folks, they are only trying to protect Mickey Mouse, er Steam Boat Willie. </sarcasm>

38 posted on 12/31/2011 1:00:12 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: af_vet_rr
And we CANNOT forget that this legislation is being driven by a Republican.

But he was electable and he had an (R) by his name. </sarcasm>

39 posted on 12/31/2011 1:15:15 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Let’s remember that Newt was at the forefront of keeping the internet unregulated. He is a big science/technology geek and understood what it was all about very early on.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70274.html

“Newt is brilliant,” said Tim Draper, a venture capitalist in Silicon Valley who helped to raise money this week for Romney. “He has a deep understanding of many technologies, but more importantly, he studied Silicon Valley and I believe he has a good understanding of why it works.”

At the time, Gingrich talked up the transformative power of the Internet and a world where schools and hospitals would be wired.

Gingrich is “sensitive to innovation, to job creation, to start-ups and not having the government doing — but getting out of the away,” said McNealy, who is now chairman of social-media start-up Wayin. Gingrich “is a spectacular idea guy.”

Some of the early, libertarian-leaning views that won him fans in Silicon Valley were potential time bombs with the GOP faithful, but he stood his ground. In 1996, Gingrich — then the speaker of the House — resisted an attempt to fight porn on the Internet.

When the Senate began to push for the Communications Decency Act of 1996, Gingrich put up a roadblock that helped undermine the act, which was later struck down by the Supreme Court. The act, introduced by then-Sen. Jim Exon (D-Neb.), would have made indecent materials on the Internet illegal and made intermediaries — such as Internet service providers — responsible for policing content on the Web.

Some saw this effort as trying to apply rules of broadcast television to the Internet. Gingrich said then that the bill would not protect children but would impinge on the rights of adults. With then-Reps. Chris Cox (R-Calif.) and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Gingrich pushed for an alternative that emphasized parental education.

“He should be credited with helping to promote a solution to come out against regulation that would have thwarted free speech and the vibrant Internet we know today,” said Jerry Berman, founder of the Center for Democracy and Technology, one of the first cyber liberties groups.


40 posted on 12/31/2011 1:25:43 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Obama in 2012!)
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To: Sub-Driver
I can't see this as being a bad thing-it will certainly draw attention to the matter at the very least. I can especially imagine the howling if Facebook was to go down for a while (although it wouldn't bother me a bit.)

As an aside, am I the only one who sees SOPA and whose first thought is immediately "Senior Officer Present Afloat?"


41 posted on 12/31/2011 1:42:25 PM PST by GATOR NAVY ("The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen." -Dennis Prager)
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To: Sub-Driver
With congress's approval ratings circling the bowl, let's pass an illegal law(!) to piss off 99% of the population to keep 1% happy.

They are without a doubt the most overpaid idiots.

We the people need to come together with a show of force because these scum refuse to listen.

42 posted on 12/31/2011 1:55:58 PM PST by Post5203 (Newter 0bama)
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To: Gene Eric
It’s regrettable the dumb old shits in DC are empowered with the force of Statism.

And THAT is precisely the problem. It is not that this or that regulation goes to far. The federal government needs to be stripped of the power to regulate AT ALL. (The INTERSTATE Commerce Clause never gave it in the first place.)
43 posted on 12/31/2011 2:02:02 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Let's take it even farther and have a blackout on filing tax returns and sending the IRS any more of our hard earned money.

Now THAT would cause a government blackout!

44 posted on 12/31/2011 2:18:08 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: JoeGar
He told me he stopped hiring musicians because a union (AFTRA, I think) was going to charge him $5 per chair

You're thinking ASCAP. AFTRA is the American Federation of Radio & Television Actors.

45 posted on 12/31/2011 2:21:39 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Moose Alert!!!! Get some sleeves!)
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To: RobinOfKingston
"No Google searches. No Facebook updates. No Tweets. No Amazon.com shopping. Nothing."

I don't use google. Don't have Facebook. Don't have Twitter. Shop amazon about once a month.

46 posted on 12/31/2011 10:15:29 PM PST by redhead ("Inner peace, inner peace...." Master Shi Fu)
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To: Sub-Driver

The free exchange of information is a threat to big government propoganda. It was only a matter of time.


47 posted on 01/02/2012 6:44:14 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The free exchange of information is a threat to big government propoganda. It was only a matter of time.


48 posted on 01/02/2012 6:44:34 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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