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Watching For Perry, Pulling For Palin
Townhall ^ | December 30, 2011 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 12/30/2011 1:34:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

As I sat with my extended family on Christmas, we discussed how beatable Barack Obama is. And as I listened to them run through the litany of reasons why this is so, I could only say again: “If the Republicans nominate a true conservative for president, Barack Obama is done.” As it is impossible for his record to hold up to the scrutiny that a Reagan-like candidate would subject it to, so too it is equally impossible to diminish the energy and support Tea Partiers would bring were they to throw their weight behind a candidate who’s not just a “fiscal conservative” or a “social conservative” but a real life conservative through and through: Someone who is pro-tax cut and pro-life, pro-spending cuts and pro-traditional marriage, as well as pro-military and pro-victory in the war on terror. Granted, there aren’t many candidates that fit this bill. Romney certainly doesn’t, Huntsman couldn’t, and Ron Paul’s views on our military efforts overseas and our culpability in the 9/11 attacks raise disturbing questions.

Moreover, Paul’s seeming indifference toward the plight of Israel, an indifference some construe as animosity, will be more and more problematic for him when it is better publicized.

Of course, conservatives could think about Gov. Rick Perry, a staunch supporter of the right to keep and bear arms without nuances, a man who loves our military, despises big government, and understands that our enemies attacked us on 9/11 because they hate us: and that they hate us because the heritage of our Judeo-Christian culture is freedom.

When Perry entered the race, he proved he had the capacity to rally grassroots supporters in a way that none before him, save Gov. Sarah Palin, had been capable of doing. He has flaws, and I have not been shy about highlighting those when they came to my attention. However, he is consistently pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-God, and pro-states’ rights. When talking to friends about Perry I’ve said, “He never met a tax cut he didn’t like.” Does he debate well? Who cares. Honestly, the debates have proven to be almost fixed, as the moderators give more time to their favorites or those they consider front-runners, and that effectively shuts out others (Perry included). Besides, I’m looking for a Commander-in-Chief not a debater-in-chief.

Yet if Perry fails to get traction, we will have to look elsewhere.

Enter Palin. She’s a conservative, she’s proud of her country, she’d be a strong ally for Israel, and she’s beautiful: for these reasons the left hates her. They actually fear her, but they present it as hate to keep from showing their weakness. And I don’t see any reason why see can’t reassess the field and enter the race, in the event Perry fails to regain traction or if no other candidate jumps in. It seems that Palin agrees with this assessment, as just last Monday she said: “It's not too late for folks to jump in. Who knows what will happen in the future."

I honestly believe Perry or Palin would be a nightmare scenario for Obama. And as I’ve watched Perry speak on the fly, and heard his conviction, I’ve continued to hope he regains traction. But if he doesn’t, I hope Palin will jump in and “fight like a girl” so we can have a conservative in the White House again.

Palin could do to Obama what Reagan did to Carter, times ten. And who wouldn’t pay to see her look Obama in the eye during a debate and say: “A recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a depression is when you lose yours, and a recovery is when [Barack Obama] loses his.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; palin; perry; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 12/30/2011 1:34:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin’s too busy hawking her new reality show about her husband’s snowmobiling adventures.


2 posted on 12/30/2011 1:39:44 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ah Vet..ya know my heart is with you when it comes to Palin. I wish she would change her mind and jump in tonight. But if she really isn’t going to run..I wish she would come out and support Perry..cause he’s gonna need it in Iowa.


3 posted on 12/30/2011 1:40:31 PM PST by stillafreemind
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It would be most difficult for me to argue with the article. I'll take either one: Perry or Palin, but I still prefer Demint.
4 posted on 12/30/2011 1:40:38 PM PST by IbJensen (Demint for President, Paul for Treasury Secretary, Apaio For AG)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My exact feelings......Please Sarah....Run for us, the little people who truly deserve you.....


5 posted on 12/30/2011 1:42:10 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now, and in the future)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wish she would.Will write her in on Super Tuesday.The current lineup leaves me thinking the Fraud will get four more years.Just the thought of liberal heads exploding is so nice to contemplate.


6 posted on 12/30/2011 1:45:49 PM PST by hwkbeer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comments?

PERRY/PALIN 2012

7 posted on 12/30/2011 1:46:19 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: The Wizard

Palin ain’t running except maybe to her Wasilla refrigerator.

Her time passed when she refused to endorse Perry or another conservative like she said she would.

Next.


8 posted on 12/30/2011 1:48:12 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I find it interesting that Palin has supporters among virtually ALL of the other candidates. This guy likes Perry, but apparently would prefer Palin. I've read posts and articles by plenty of Cain supporters, Bachmann supporters, and Gingrich supporters who are the same -- Palin is/was their first choice, and the one they find themselves rooting for now was their second choice.

I think it's a dynamic that's much more prominent with Palin than with any other candidate, and I think it indicates Palin is A LOT MORE POPULAR among conservatives than is generally thought.

I still wish and pray that she's our next president.

9 posted on 12/30/2011 1:51:18 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve said forever that Perry best reflects our beliefs in theory and in action.

They are painting him as a rube just like they did with GWB and Palin.

We need Schmarrtttt Politicians! LOL


10 posted on 12/30/2011 1:54:35 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s not running and if she did, she’d lose to Obama. If she’s interested in POTUS, she needs to run for Senator in Arizona, achieve some meaningful legislative accomplishments, and try again in 8 years.


11 posted on 12/30/2011 1:54:37 PM PST by CALawyer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought Palin was the best shot at cleaning up the corrupt mess in D.C., but she declined.

I am concerned about Perry being more of an “establishment” type like Dubya, whose failure to clean up after the Clinton cartel’s crimes left us with evil scum like the negro nazi Holder.

At least Perry is talking like he plans to fix things, but I feel it may just be political pandering to those of us who are fed up with the corruption.

Obama was more selected by the propaganda media than elected by the people. True conservatives like Duncan Hunter in ‘08 and Rick Santorum now will never get a fair chance.

The GOP (Going On Progressive) party will nominate their socialist establishment hack like Romney or Gingrich, and nothing will really change for the better.

Presidential “elections” are now a farce in America, just like “Pro” wrestling. The republicrat oligarchy will continue to rule and maintain their wealth and power.


12 posted on 12/30/2011 1:56:35 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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Reagan Disciple


"Palin’s too busy hawking her new reality show about her husband’s snowmobiling adventures."

The accomplished know that if you want something done you get a busy person to do it. That's why busy people are busy.. they do things.

HAVE A COOL YULE!

CLICK HERE FOR GIFT


13 posted on 12/30/2011 1:58:35 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: Finny
Interesting commentary....

root.....root......root............................root......

14 posted on 12/30/2011 1:58:51 PM PST by BossLady (Where There's A Shill...There's A Pay.......)
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To: CALawyer
If she’s interested in POTUS, she needs to run for Senator in Arizona, achieve some meaningful legislative accomplishments

Exactly so, and if she fails to run for Kyls office, I can no longer take her seriously.

15 posted on 12/30/2011 1:59:20 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At this point, it’s more like “Waiting For Perry To Suspend, Voting For Palin”.


16 posted on 12/30/2011 2:01:53 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

GWB did not bring us Holder!
Obama did!
And believe me , Perry knows all the names and he has been tangling with Obamas Czars from day one.


17 posted on 12/30/2011 2:01:53 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Happy New Year to you, 2ndDivisionVet, and I hope your health is improving. You’ve done the Lords own work here the past year+, helping carry the message of a lady I am sure we have not seen the last of yet. (Snarks, if you can’t add anything intelligent to the discussion, just go away!)

I just read about 4 threads up about how Margaret Thatcher was a running joke on “Monty Python” in the early 70’s, and how it took her 15-20 years to rise through the ranks in Britain. It is obvious what has happened to that once-great country in the absence of strong conservative leadership. I pray our nation sees leadership like that of Ronald Reagan or Lady Thatcher again, and as Sarah Palin said, it’s never retreat, just reload...


18 posted on 12/30/2011 2:02:23 PM PST by bigbob
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To: CainConservative

Palin could determine the next president.

And she could be the next vice president.

The timing should be soon, though.


19 posted on 12/30/2011 2:03:04 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: MikeSteelBe
Presidential “elections” are now a farce in America, just like “Pro” wrestling. The republicrat oligarchy will continue to rule and maintain their wealth and power.

Simple, direct and sadly true.

20 posted on 12/30/2011 2:03:36 PM PST by ghostrider
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To: MikeSteelBe
True conservatives like Duncan Hunter in ‘08 and Rick Santorum now will never get a fair chance.

Whew! Duncan Hunter and Rick Santorum. That's a pairing up/comparison that I could never make. Seems a stretch. As far as Perry, his HISTORY, rather than his words (which I also like) are what you look to to prove to yourself his conservative values.

21 posted on 12/30/2011 2:06:21 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: CALawyer

Perhaps you should get out of Mexifornia every once in awhile. She’s pretty popular in fly-over country and in the South, etc.


22 posted on 12/30/2011 2:09:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I started out back in June wanting a Palin/Perry or Perry/Palin ticket, might as well finish the year that way.

Happy New Year 2DV!

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23 posted on 12/30/2011 2:16:50 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: John Valentine
Duncan D Hunter





24 posted on 12/30/2011 2:16:50 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: CainConservative
Palin ain’t running except maybe to her Wasilla refrigerator.

Spoken like a pissant, newbie.
25 posted on 12/30/2011 2:23:15 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s popular with conservatives, including in California, not with Americans overall, who unfortunately get to vote. Fair or not, she’s been depicted as lacking substance and needs to pad her resume if she ever wants to run for POTUS.


26 posted on 12/30/2011 2:31:12 PM PST by CALawyer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Palin is out of it, her choice, and I believe nothing will get her back in.

Perry, unfortunately has been bashed to political death by purported 'conservatives' - proving that far too many who claim conservatism are ill informed political idiots.

I agree with the author of this piece - Perry has the right mix of personal Christian beliefs and laudable executive experience. But with Perry out of the race we have only second and third-best candidates with greater flaws and bad-baggage than Perry to choose from.

We now face the very real possibility that Obama will remain in office, quite simply because Romney will most likely - at this point - be the nominee. Romney will cause enough 'conservatives' to revolt that the GOP will lose another election.

27 posted on 12/30/2011 2:32:25 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m starting to see polls regarding Palin’s
electability should she run. Gives me goose bumps.

RUN SARAH RUN!
PALIN / BACHMAN 2012


28 posted on 12/30/2011 2:38:56 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Ron C.
But with Perry out of the race we have only second and third-best candidates with greater flaws and bad-baggage than Perry to choose from.

I say get out there and campaign for Perry. Why accept second best?

29 posted on 12/30/2011 2:40:43 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: hwkbeer

Palin’s my write-in in any case. Then I’ll say a prayer and conduct one more weapons check.


30 posted on 12/30/2011 2:44:22 PM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: CALawyer
Yeah, she needs to rack up a lot of meaningful accomplishments during 8 years in the Senate, just like Obama did. /s
31 posted on 12/30/2011 2:47:28 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Finny
"I still wish and pray that she's our next president."

From your lips to God's ears.

32 posted on 12/30/2011 2:48:39 PM PST by LADY J
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To: MikeSteelBe
Presidential “elections” are now a farce in America, just like “Pro” wrestling. The republicrat oligarchy will continue to rule and maintain their wealth and power.

Ping!

33 posted on 12/30/2011 3:05:54 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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For the record, I did not enter this thread and express my thoughts on this topic.
that's thirty-four threads since twelve sixteen eleven

34 posted on 12/30/2011 3:07:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: stars & stripes forever
"...get out there and campaign..."

Been doing that, sending money, praying, talking to friends, writing letters, going door to door.

I'm not giving up unless he does.

35 posted on 12/30/2011 3:08:57 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Noumenon

If enough people write her in during the primaries then maybe just maybe there is still hope.Ike was convinced by the American people to run when he had not wanted too.
Prayer and weapons check here as well.


36 posted on 12/30/2011 3:21:02 PM PST by hwkbeer
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To: CALawyer

“She’s not running and if she did, she’d lose to Obama.”

No, she wouldn’t.


37 posted on 12/30/2011 3:24:26 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“She’s dead Gibbs”


38 posted on 12/30/2011 3:30:39 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Finny
Palin is A LOT MORE POPULAR among conservatives than is generally thought.

She always was - just the PDS are/were constant and louder here (displaying their emotional hangups and insecurities) - as well as the GOP elite. Mommy Bush supported mitt openly and trashed Sarah openly, mitt/rove behind the scenes. There is no mistake - there are more "WeThePeople" type than there are those who want things status quo - they just want/demand more 'air' time.
39 posted on 12/30/2011 3:35:16 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Ron C.
But with Perry out of the race

Perry is not out of the race.

40 posted on 12/30/2011 3:38:46 PM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry or Gingrich, maybe. OK Santorum too)
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To: Jo Nuvark

I was let down when she decided against, was really hoping for a Palin/Gingerich or something along that line someone as VP with a lot of DC clout that could help her twist some arms the wrong way... but sadly I don’t think it’s going to happen ... I refuse to declare a party so I’ll not be voting in the Ohio primary anyway, but I will say I’d have declared in a heartbeat if she’d been on the ticket...


41 posted on 12/30/2011 3:44:22 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: hwkbeer

If enough people write her in during the primaries then maybe just maybe there is still hope.Ike was convinced by the American people to run when he had not wanted too.
Prayer and weapons check here as well.

Prayer and weapons check here as well.


42 posted on 12/30/2011 3:48:26 PM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; CALawyer
She’s pretty popular in fly-over country and in the South, etc.

Exactly. I was wondering if it is the state or profession that makes one so clueless.
43 posted on 12/30/2011 3:49:21 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is exactly why Palin left her supporters hanging. We were led by Palin that she was going to run for the nomination, then the Glen Rice hook-up came out and she left is hanging without a real hope!

I get steamed every time I think of what could have been...


44 posted on 12/30/2011 4:06:25 PM PST by Randy Larsen (I'm backing Newt!)
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To: Randy Larsen
Remind me: Did she confirm the Glen Rice slander, or do you believe anything the Left tells you, as long as it juicy, filthy and salacious?
45 posted on 12/30/2011 4:10:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, nor did she deny it or sue McGuinnis(SP?) for writing about it.


46 posted on 12/30/2011 4:17:36 PM PST by Randy Larsen (I'm backing Newt!)
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To: Tribune7
"Perry is not out of the race."

Indeed, just hope his numbers don't drop so low that he more or less has to quit. That's what I fear may take place.

47 posted on 12/30/2011 4:17:50 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Randy Larsen

Spelling Correction...McGinniss, first name Joe aka “the stalker”.


48 posted on 12/30/2011 4:21:30 PM PST by Randy Larsen (I'm backing Newt!)
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To: Randy Larsen

So, you basically believe McGinnis, who in essence, claimed Palin was an adulterous crack-whore with a fetish for black men? Okay, whatever.


49 posted on 12/30/2011 4:22:53 PM PST by greene66
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To: Randy Larsen; 2ndDivisionVet
Her attorney sent a letter of intent on a lawsuit. That was posted on FR.

Also posted on FR was a McGinniss email to a lefty blogger asking for proof of the claims and admitting that there was none. McGinniss called it only salacious gossip if they couldn't back it up.

It was pointed out By THE NEW YORK TIMES that Rice did NOT confirm the relationship in the book or anywhere else.

50 posted on 12/30/2011 4:31:37 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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