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Expert warns: EPA regulation could lead to blackouts in 12 (election backlash?)
Times Leader ^ | 12/27/11 | JOSELYN KING

Posted on 12/31/2011 2:40:10 AM PST by Libloather

Expert warns: EPA regulation could lead to blackouts in ’12
By JOSELYN KING - For The Times Leader
December 27, 2011

WHEELING - The leader of a think tank on energy policy sees electrical blackouts in America's future if the Environmental Protection Agency continues plans to phase out coal-fired electric plants.

Thomas Borelli, director of the Free Enterprise Project at the National Center for Public Policy Research, also believes there could be backlash in the 2012 elections if voters find themselves without electricity in the coming months.

New EPA rules were issued last week and will allow companies three years to comply. These will further limit mercury emissions under the Clean Air Act, set new limits on the emissions of sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides and establish new coal-ash disposal rules.

**SNIP**

"Projecting in the future, if blackouts and brownouts happen, it will be a difficult election for senators and representatives," Borelli said. "Constituents might want to know why they didn't act to stop it.

"There could be a significant effect in the 2012 election if there are brownouts and blackouts, and questions of who failed to control the EPA," he continued. "There could be political consequences."

(Excerpt) Read more at timesleaderonline.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackouts; epa; murcury; regulation
Have a great 2012 in Obamaville!


1 posted on 12/31/2011 2:40:18 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

My January project is to finally create the basement den,it is always cool down there. I anticipate if not blackouts and brownouts, we simply won’t be able to afford the electricity.


2 posted on 12/31/2011 2:47:40 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Libloather
"Projecting in the future, if blackouts and brownouts happen, it will be a difficult election for senators and representatives," Borelli said. "Constituents might want to know why they didn't act to stop it."

The answer to that is easy. While the rest of the electorate stumbles around in the dark, said "representatives" have all the energy they need.

3 posted on 12/31/2011 2:59:33 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Libloather

The Democrats are making total economic warfare against the American people.


4 posted on 12/31/2011 3:17:17 AM PST by Salman
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To: Salman

“The Democrats are making total economic warfare against the American people.”

I wish more people understood this. Becoming dependent upon government is NOT freedom, it’s slavery.

And yet, so many American seem so willing to become wards of the state...


5 posted on 12/31/2011 3:29:16 AM PST by Tigerized (Occupy Wall Street? Go find the real culprits in the Capitol Building...)
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To: Salman
The Democrats are making total economic warfare against the American people.

Yes. And if one wonders how they expect to support all the "converts" who crawl to the democratic bus hoping for the "free ride", one must remember the big O's wife talking about how Obama will make people leave their comfort zone and they will have to work. My guess would be forced labor to oil the machine's cogs with our worthless blood and sweat.

There were many prophetic statements made as he campaigned and then began our destruction - too many misunderstood the intent or ignored it as pure rhetoric.

6 posted on 12/31/2011 3:39:39 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Libloather

They used access to water to farming districts in California as blackmail to get enough ObamaCare votes. What makes you think they won’t use access to electricity for something else?


7 posted on 12/31/2011 3:49:42 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Libloather

This is a deliberate attack on the American people. We did not cause these generated crisis our elected officials did. We need to take away the keys to the store across the board and then we need to pressure our newly elected to investigate and prosecute them all


8 posted on 12/31/2011 3:53:07 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Libloather
Is there not one Governor with the balls to dismiss these idiotic bureaucrats? If I were a Governor it would never occur to me to take the EPA seriously enough to let them dictate to and destroy my state.
9 posted on 12/31/2011 4:06:04 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Libloather

You don’t have to be an Einstein to figure out what will happen if these plants close.

The fact is there will be blackouts and brownouts, and thousands of people will be put out of work, your electric bill will soar./.

Now let’s be smart enough to figure out the simplest fact of all
The people out of work?
The extra cost? the problems we face?

Obama doesn’t give a tinkers damn. He could care less.
He will get re-elected anyway and screw us some more, because the Media is owned by him, the blacks are on his plantation, the queers love him, and yellow dog Democrats are too friggin stupid top vote any other way.


10 posted on 12/31/2011 4:38:03 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Libloather

I can see 2012 as a bigger year for Republicans than 1984. Could be a 50 State beat down unless the machine can generate enough votes to hold a few states like Illinois and Pennsylvannia. (Massachusetts went for Reagan in 1984, remember.)


11 posted on 12/31/2011 4:39:25 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Libloather

The mention of ‘blackouts’ and ‘brownouts’ seems rather racist to me. Where is the Racist Kid when you need him? LOL!


12 posted on 12/31/2011 4:58:33 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Libloather; ApplegateRanch; Berlin_Freeper; Genesis defender; golux; proud_yank; Bockscar; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

13 posted on 12/31/2011 5:02:23 AM PST by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Venturer
The fact is there will be blackouts and brownouts, and thousands of people will be put out of work, your electric bill will soar

.If the sheeple can't get the electricity to watch ABCNNBCBS they might have to start thinking for themselves. This will never be allowed. The Circus Maximus must continue for when it ends the SHTF.

14 posted on 12/31/2011 5:15:23 AM PST by joshhiggins
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
They used access to water to farming districts in California as blackmail to get enough ObamaCare votes.

Communism owns production and land via big government. Fascism controls production and land via big government. The communists and their sympathizers morphed into the environmental movement decades ago for the primary purpose of controlling land and subsequently raw materials (i.e. fossil fuels) and resources (i.e. water). See my tag-line.

Taken to its logical conclusion, the neo-fascists will do exactly what you pointed out, blackmail us to their will via government coercion.

15 posted on 12/31/2011 5:18:54 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist - VRW Conspirator)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The mention of ‘blackouts’ and ‘brownouts’ seems rather racist to me. Where is the Racist Kid when you need him? LOL!

Obama, the blackout kid! Ah! Am I racist? (runs away screaming)

16 posted on 12/31/2011 5:20:52 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist - VRW Conspirator)
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To: Libloather

BRING IT !


17 posted on 12/31/2011 5:21:48 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Tench_Coxe
They won't have quite enough "juice" if people are driven to hunting down EPA employees and their enablers in the streets.

They can run but they can't hide.

18 posted on 12/31/2011 5:33:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: VRW Conspirator

To the point of your post and tagline, see the 3rd quote on my FR profile page, the two-paragraph one by Hayek. It has been ever thus.


19 posted on 12/31/2011 5:57:44 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: TalBlack

-——Is there not one Governor with the balls to dismiss these idiotic bureaucrats-——

Well yes there is

Governor Rick Perry pretty much told the EPA to just go away and leave Texas alone. He more or less declared his state exempt


20 posted on 12/31/2011 6:04:40 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Libloather

Don’t worry, Hussein’s media ass lickers have already written stories about how Republicans in Congress and the companies that provide energy are to blame.


21 posted on 12/31/2011 6:35:01 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Libloather

For freepers in the know about backup generators, anyone know if the mysolarbackup.com is a good solution for powering a well pump (submersible)? We are in good shape on our 10 acres, lp tank, woodstove, but water is our challenge. We got a manual pipe system for 1000.00 for Y2K and it still sits in the barn. We are getting too old to set up and use something like that now. Any advice would be appreciated and thanks.


22 posted on 12/31/2011 6:41:42 AM PST by MomwithHope (Wake up America we are at war with militant Islam and progressives - 2 fronts.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I have the same quote by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn in my profile page! LOL


23 posted on 12/31/2011 6:56:07 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist - VRW Conspirator)
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To: bert
And Texas isn't hooked up to the national grid either is it? At least that is what I was told. And Texas oilies were working the panhandle area like determined gophers the last time I was through there. Makes one think, hmmmmm.
24 posted on 12/31/2011 7:14:08 AM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: MomwithHope

We are looking at that system ourselves. We don’t know anyone who has actually purchased it but based on the videos and the fact that it puts out 1.8KW at peak hours I would say its fairly powerful. Would run your well pump for sure but thats during the day. What you probably want to do is get one of those pressurized blue metal containment vessels and pump water into it during the day and then at night you would not be draining that solar unit. You could plug something else in. We are going to install a full solar system for the house and then maybe use the solar backup as a mobile electrical unit to run an electric wood splitter or an electric chain saw or something like that if the SHTF.


25 posted on 12/31/2011 7:17:47 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MomwithHope

As a guy who owns 4 generators, I will tell you that the generator there is not really solar. It is a gasoline powered generator which is claimed to be a backup for a solar power system, I see very small solar panels and not very many of them in their ads.

I smell ripoff.

1.8 KW is not a very powerful generator, and may or may not power your well.

If you want a small backup generator get yourself a Honda EU2000i, which is what I have for camping/hunting. It will power a small reefer and a coffee pot, or a reefer and microwave, but it will not supply a microwave and coffee pot at the same time. It is a 1.8KW generator, but the highest quality available.

It runs 8 hours on one gallon of gas with no, or very low load, but the gas consumption is a lot higher with a substantial load. You can find them for $900-1000 new if you look. They are very quiet—at idle it sounds like mouse farts. It is much louder with a load.

Learn how to store gasoline properly (you must add fuel stabilizer) and always have about 10 gallons on hand. This will get you through most blackouts.

For a whole house generator you really need something a lot larger — 4KW to 8KW and maybe even more. And, proportionately more gasoline.

Running a well pump depends on the depth of the well. I have a 700 foot well and need an 8KW generator to make the well pump work. The issue is not running the pump, but getting it to start. Startup current on a well pump is very high. Most people have shallower wells, and may be able to get by with 4-6KW.


26 posted on 12/31/2011 9:00:02 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: muawiyah
"They can run but they can't hide. "

Yes they can - the lights went out and it is dark everywhere. They can hide anywhere!

27 posted on 12/31/2011 9:34:39 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: I am Richard Brandon

The odor man, the odor. They are like their brethren in “Occupy......” ~ and a few days without hot showers they will be remarkable ~ more so than normal people!


28 posted on 12/31/2011 10:50:15 AM PST by muawiyah
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