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Run Ron Run! Why a 3rd Party Run by Ron Paul could help the GOP. (Vanity)
December 31, 2011 | no dems

Posted on 12/31/2011 6:36:09 AM PST by no dems

Just read on another thread where "American Idol" winner and recording artist, Kelly Clarkson has endorsed Ron Paul (spiking her CD sales 442%). He's also liked by Barry Manilow, White Supremacists, anti-Semites, the "Occupy" protesters, the anti-war crowd, and tons of other Liberals. So, I'm thinking....

Let Ron Paul run as a Third Party candidate. He is more like Dennish Kucinich than he is Rick Santorum. There are a lot of ultra-Liberals who are very disappointed with their "Hope and Change" President, but they'd never vote for a Republican. That would give them an outlet for a "protest vote" against Obozo and would actually probably help the GOP candidate. Am I right or am I crazy? Anybody???


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hasbeen; kellyclarkson; neverwas; ronpaul
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To: no dems
Axelrod would fund a SuperPac to make Ron Paul look like the next Ronald Reagan and split the conservative vote.

Predicting the voters reaction to a third party candidate rarely works out as planned.

Horrible idea.

41 posted on 12/31/2011 7:29:43 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: elephant
A third party run for the Presidential election would give the Presidency to Obama. I do NOT believe this to be a good idea at all!

Why not? The paulbots are never going to vote for the Republican. They are programed to vote for the most anti-American running. That would be the surrender monkey. Now if Cut and Run does not run all that support will go to the next most anti-American, Obama.
No Conservative is going to vote for someone who blames America for every problem in the world. Let Obama and Cut and Run split the anti-American vote and let the Republican candidate take the pro-American vote.
42 posted on 12/31/2011 7:31:58 AM PST by John D
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To: kindred

This is not flippant. Paul runs 3rd party, Obama is president. Period. He will pull more from the fringe right than the fringe left. Let’s face it, they are more politically astute than we are. We split our vote all the time, so now we will nominate Romney and lose. WE never learn from our past mistakes. Newt is the one that can defeat Obama. Unless Paul runs a third party, then we are screwed. Been watching this for 60 years. Bank on it.


43 posted on 12/31/2011 7:33:48 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: bigdirty
Thinking Paul will take any votes from Obama is crazy. All the leftists will vote for Obama.

Not the anti-American, far leftists who think Obama is too pro-American. Cut and Run will take that away from Obama.
44 posted on 12/31/2011 7:35:44 AM PST by John D
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To: no dems

Honestly, I don’t see a RPaul 3rd party for these reasons. First, and most importantly, is the effect a 3 rd party would have on his son’s standing in the GOP. Second, RPaul is 72 and has announced that he will not seek re-election to congress.


45 posted on 12/31/2011 7:36:03 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: kindred
The two party system is indeed corrupt and perverted to keep the status quo.

Both parties along with their propaganda machine (MSM) have perfected the art of political manipulation of the American populace.

Also, our leaders for decades have ensured a dumbing down of the population by allowing millions of legal and illegal immigrants to come into this country.

The majority of which have NO allegiance to America what so ever. They become voters and cast ballots for whomever promises the most give-a-ways.

Sucking the juice of life out of our country. I believe from my heart of hearts, this has been a deliberate and intentional strategy of both parties.

If we keep fishing from the same ol pond....well you get the message.

46 posted on 12/31/2011 7:37:47 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Tennessean4Bush

It really depends on whom the GOP picks. If its Mittens maybe lots of conservatives would go Ron Paul—if its someone else—who can say? A Newt/Palin Ticket would win back conservatives. Its really all up in the air. A 3rd Party—a Tea Party—might have a better shot —but it all depends on the state of the world in early 2012. Its too early—check back in April. Lots are going to happen in the next 90 days.


47 posted on 12/31/2011 7:38:34 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: david1313; kindred; All

Except African-Americans, Hispanics (60+% or so) and White Guilters, Democrats are looking for a reason NOT to vote for Obama. Blue collar Dems, those who made up the Reagan Democrats will vote for AbO. Some will go with a 3rd party Paul but a significant would go with the Republican, a conservative Republican.
Any third party run would be closer to Anderson ‘80, than Perot ‘92.


48 posted on 12/31/2011 7:41:20 AM PST by j.argese (Newt ... the Nixon of our time ...)
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To: elephant
Were you even able to vote when Ross Perot ran? Those votes that went to Ross could have gone to Bush!

While both Perot and Paul are goofy, there is a big difference between the two. Cut and Run blames America for every problem in the world, Perot did not do that. The surrender monkey wants to destroy our military. Perot was pro military and helped it every chance he got, even with his own money.
Cut and Run would hurt Obama much more than he would hurt getting America back in order.
49 posted on 12/31/2011 7:44:01 AM PST by John D
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To: autumnraine
Rats vote for Rats, every time.The vast majority of the idiots supporting him in the primaries will vote straight Demonrat with one pull of the handle.
50 posted on 12/31/2011 7:46:09 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: no dems
You said that if Romney is the nominee, many disaffected conservatives might go the Ron Paul route as their own protest vote. Well, those folks would stay home and not vote for Romney anyhow, so what difference would it make? There are a lot of FReepers here who say they will not vote for Romney.

By way of a very small sampling of my son's friends....the 30 year olds (eek!), they all say, to a person, they will now consider voting Ron Paul over Romney. They are extremely conservative and have been fighting the liberals and progressives since their college days. They have long email discussions over this very subject.

Paul's foreign policy is the only stumbling block to him getting this age group's conservative vote.

What crappy choices we have ended up with!

51 posted on 12/31/2011 7:48:52 AM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: no dems

For every disaffected liberal there would be 100 libertarians who otherwise would vote for the Republican candidate.

A Ron Paul 3rd party run would hand the presidency to Zero — in a landslide.


52 posted on 12/31/2011 7:54:47 AM PST by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else.)
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To: MAexile

It’s not feasible in my judgment because liberals only vote Democrat no matter what. They are undiscerning.


53 posted on 12/31/2011 7:55:02 AM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: kindred

Yes, it’s my opinion....and I arrived at that opinion using common sense.

The radicals will use ANY means to get Obama reelected. A 3rd party attempt will siphon off votes to the contrary.


54 posted on 12/31/2011 7:55:42 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: no dems
I absolutely DETEST Romney! I hate his policies, his state, his hair, I even hate his religion (there I said it) But if he is the Republican nominee, I'll vote for him.

I won't do anything that might make it easier for “the one” to take the throne again.

Perot was a skunk and he deliberately set GHW Bush up for defeat. Paul is insane and should not be allowed anywhere near the WH.

55 posted on 12/31/2011 7:59:20 AM PST by Ditter
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To: no dems

For all those who say a third party vote for Paul vs. Romney insures an obama win: If Romney is the best the republican party can offer then YOU deserve another term of obama.


56 posted on 12/31/2011 8:04:44 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
He's also liked by Barry Manilow, White Supremacists, anti-Semites, the "Occupy" protesters, the anti-war crowd, and tons of other Liberals.
Thanks no dems.
57 posted on 12/31/2011 8:06:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: servantboy777

“I’ve never been against a 3rd party run by candidates....except for this year!”

There is NEVER a perfect time to run a 3rd party challenge, and this is part of how the gop keeps conservatives on the Grand Old Plantation.

The left will ALWAYS run a candidate that is horrible from our perspective. What is unusual about this election cycle is that the likely gop candidate is about as horrible.

To rebel only in summer and when the conditions are perfect is to not rebel.


58 posted on 12/31/2011 8:09:24 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (The gop is as much a plantation for conservatives as the 'rat party is for blacks.)
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To: elephant

Dead right my friend. Paula is a nut case.A3rd party will secure another 4 years for Obama ..anyone with half a brain can figure that out .
A TRUE conservative is the only way to go


59 posted on 12/31/2011 8:11:25 AM PST by sonic109 (no compromise with Marxist)
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To: elephant

Dead right my friend. Paul is a nut case. A 3rd party will secure another 4 years for Obama ..anyone with half a brain can figure that out .
A TRUE conservative is the only way to go


60 posted on 12/31/2011 8:11:51 AM PST by sonic109 (no compromise with Marxist)
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