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Can the Government Guarantee Everyone a Job?
CNBC ^ | 12/31/2011 | John Carney

Posted on 12/31/2011 7:43:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Worked so well in the USSR. Put old widows to sweeping the streets.


21 posted on 12/31/2011 8:08:06 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: SeekAndFind
A government that pays for things with currency it creates can always just create more currency,...

Idiocy! No need to read any further.

22 posted on 12/31/2011 8:08:22 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: festusbanjo

They are still required to do community service under TANF. Welfare transition program...


23 posted on 12/31/2011 8:08:27 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: SeekAndFind
COMMUNISM!!!
24 posted on 12/31/2011 8:09:28 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Morpheus2009
A government that is licensed to give anything, can also take away anything.

Where do you think they're going to get it from to give it to you?

25 posted on 12/31/2011 8:09:45 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A government guarantee will ensure that almost everyone works for government. Government provides much larger compensation for the typical worker. The really talented can make much more in the private sector although highly talented government workers can combine government plus private sector work to earn large amounts. The typical government worker has much better working conditions, job security, retirement compensation, and strong assurances that compensation will not decline at least nominally. Why would anyone except the highly talented want to work in the private sector? Government workers now have a nice deal on student loan debt (foregiven after 10 years with no tax consequences).

The idea that everyone works for government is the end of property rights. The Soviet Union and its allies tried this approach. It worked to perfection destroying ambition of the masses. It also eventually led to the destruction of the economy.


26 posted on 12/31/2011 8:10:36 AM PST by businessprofessor
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To: SeekAndFind

Sure. In ancient Egypt, everyone had a job. They pay sucked.


27 posted on 12/31/2011 8:10:55 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: nhwingut

NO that is Marxist Communism not just sounds like it,
it is it. Amen.


28 posted on 12/31/2011 8:13:55 AM PST by gakrak ( A man should know his limitations and act accordingly.)
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To: SeekAndFind

what an absolutely communist idiot...


29 posted on 12/31/2011 8:18:59 AM PST by richardtavor
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To: SeekAndFind
The federal government, in other words, would act on employment much like the Federal Reserve does for bank liquidity

Oh, right. And that's worked out great hasn't it?

30 posted on 12/31/2011 8:23:24 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind
The traditional definition of a job is freely providing something useful and beneficial to someone who in return voluntarily provides you with compensation he feels is commensurate with your efforts.

This definition is fast becoming forgotten. The new definition of a job is a paycheck provided by politicians and funded by taxpayers which is received as an entitlement and for which no useful work is done in return.

In other words, the politicians are calling welfare checks paychecks. These welfare paychecks are given based on the whims or political intentions of the politicians. They are involuntarily funded by the taxpayers who receive absolutely nothing of value in return.

31 posted on 12/31/2011 8:26:17 AM PST by detective
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To: businessprofessor
“works for government”

Works for the government is fast becoming an oxymoron. Almost everyone employed by the government does little or no useful or productive work.

32 posted on 12/31/2011 8:29:12 AM PST by detective
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To: SeekAndFind
In short, the Jobs Guarantee is a nice sounding project that might work out well on paper. But it doesn't work in the real world.

Just like Liberalism.

33 posted on 12/31/2011 8:30:27 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind
Can the Government Guarantee Everyone a Job?

No, but they're doing pretty good at guaranteeing that you can't get a job.

In the US, you don't have a right to have a job. You have, or should have, the right to start your own business.

34 posted on 12/31/2011 8:30:47 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I think it's completely fine for the federal government to provide a job for every person. And as soon as (ie: never) the words justifying it are found below, then be my guest:

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

35 posted on 12/31/2011 8:31:30 AM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: SeekAndFind

You mean the same dumb ass government that has spent us into near extinction?


36 posted on 12/31/2011 8:33:40 AM PST by Leep
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To: SeekAndFind
The people working in JG jobs are not producing goods that the market needs. Their work product is largely waste.

Sheeeyit. That's true of government workers in general.

Whenever there's a threat of snowfall in Washington, D.C., the call goes out for non-essential personnel to stay home. And that ends up being some 90% of the federal workforce. If it can be called a workforce.

37 posted on 12/31/2011 8:33:58 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind
Milton Friedman had the best insight into government 'jobs programs':

At one of our dinners, Milton recalled traveling to an Asian country in the 1960s and visiting a worksite where a new canal was being built. He was shocked to see that, instead of modern tractors and earth movers, the workers had shovels. He asked why there were so few machines. The government bureaucrat explained: “You don’t understand. This is a jobs program.” To which Milton replied: “Oh, I thought you were trying to build a canal. If it’s jobs you want, then you should give these workers spoons, not shovels.”

38 posted on 12/31/2011 8:35:00 AM PST by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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To: SeekAndFind

I worked in remote parts of China in the mid-70s. They bragged about their zero unemployment to me and how superior communism was to capitalism. Workers were employed moving human fertilizer from communal honeypots to the fields in buckets; barges were towed up the Yangtze River by men hauling on tow ropes (think Erie Canal in 1830, but replace the mules with men); six year old children unloaded barges by carrying bricks in bamboo backpacks; when a concrete pedestal (about 20 foot diameter) was cast one foot too high, they had men chipping it down manually with crude hammers and rebar chisels; huge imported front-end loaders were relegated to hauling cabbages rather than excavating.

Yes, those JG jobs were wonderful. But nobody would want one of them in the states.


39 posted on 12/31/2011 8:47:01 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

No way. But it can put everyone out of a job.


40 posted on 12/31/2011 8:55:06 AM PST by mulligan
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