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Truck driver nailed with a 30,855 dollar ticket as another truck passes him also in violation.
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Posted on 12/31/2011 8:43:00 AM PST by cableguymn

Trucker nailed with a 30,855 dollar over weight fine. did not know the road was weight restricted until it was to late (sign was not visible until he was past the point of no return) while turning around he was stopped by local PD. While being weighed and handed the ticket he watched another truck that was over the limit (road had a 10 ton limit. 18 wheel trucks weigh more than that empty)

Police claim he was not doing a local delivery. He was less than 4 miles from his delivery.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: truck; trucking
WOW. I drive commercially for a living. This would cost me everything if it happened to me. As it is, it will likely put this driver out of business should the fine stand.
1 posted on 12/31/2011 8:43:11 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

I am as opposed to police being a revenue generation source as anyone, but OTOH enforcing weight limits seem less a revenue source than enforcing speed limits. By way of comparison to the fine, what would it cost to fix the road if it broke, including opportunity costs while it was broken?


2 posted on 12/31/2011 8:50:11 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: cableguymn

My husband and I teamed for a short while. Hats off to truckers, that is the hardest job I have tried. You know, truckers get picked on while every day drivers maliciously take the wheel. Mexican truckers, no problem. I have seen under the hood of one, crapola. The only way to stay profitable anymore is to claim you are illegal. ICE has a hotline for you to call as well if you are arrested. LOL. No more pre- trip, no more worries, drive as many hours as you like.


3 posted on 12/31/2011 8:52:28 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: cableguymn

Fund raising opportunity by local authorities. They probably know full well that this situation exists, where truckers cannot see the load-limit sign until too late to do anything about it. They probably set it up that way.


4 posted on 12/31/2011 8:53:33 AM PST by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: coloradan

There is an exemption for using roads like this to make a local delivery. The driver tried several other routes to his drop that are all weight restricted. This driver, like the one that drove past while he was getting the ticket should have been exempt from the weight limit because of the fact that all routes to the drop where weight restricted.

The driver is lawyered up and fighting this.


5 posted on 12/31/2011 9:01:16 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: tpmintx

Yup. A officer admitted it to a driver as reported on the David Webb show on Sirius.


6 posted on 12/31/2011 9:03:00 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

I drove commercially for years. Once while driving a straight truck in backwoods South Carolina, I got pulled over on a road that was restricted at 5 tons. The fine is a dollar-per-pound over the limit. My truck happened to be completely empty, and the cop could not ascertain exactly how much the truck weighed empty, so he cut me a break and let me go. Had he weighed my truck, I would have been facing a $7,000 fine.


7 posted on 12/31/2011 9:11:05 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: tpmintx

In that case I’d be all over a class-action lawsuit personally against those authorities. Sue them personally for three times the fine.


8 posted on 12/31/2011 9:21:30 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Hoodat
... and the cop could not ascertain exactly how much the truck weighed empty ...

Would not that information be on the truck's registration?

9 posted on 12/31/2011 9:30:24 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: JohnG45

Registration usually shows max gross wt


10 posted on 12/31/2011 9:33:50 AM PST by E.Allen
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To: momincombatboots
My husband and I teamed for a short while. Hats off to truckers

My son was in the trucking business also. Not only did he have to worry about weight stations,he was pulled over and inspected all the time. They got under his truck with mirrors to find anything they could fine. That fact plus huge insurance costs caused him to sell his equipment and get out. I bet the Mexicans/illegals weren't put to as much scrutiny. Makes one sick.

11 posted on 12/31/2011 9:42:19 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: coloradan

You miss the point. This is STRICTLY A REVENUE ENHANCER, WHEN THERE ARE NO OTHER ROADS AVAILABLE AND THE LIMIT IS SET EXTREMELY LOW. The sign was placed beyond the point of no return. So they hide the fact that a extremely low weight road was blocking the way to a local delivery. This is Marxism, pure and simple. In fact the whole system involving trucks is UN- Constitutional and what the Commerce clause was suppose to stop.


12 posted on 12/31/2011 9:42:55 AM PST by Exton1
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To: cableguymn

Money, money, money... pensions, pensions, pensions


13 posted on 12/31/2011 9:45:11 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: E.Allen; JohnG45

Max loaded/gross minus payload (all info is on a metal data plate on the front of the box or attached to the cab on a straight truck) would be the empty weight which is usually quoted with full oil and other expendables but minimal fuel ,, empty should be listed also..


14 posted on 12/31/2011 9:45:11 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: coloradan
" Sue them personally"

That's my kind of talk! We need to see a lot more of this.

15 posted on 12/31/2011 9:48:04 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: cableguymn
"(sign was not visible until he was past the point of no return)"

If true, doesn't this qualify as entrapment?

16 posted on 12/31/2011 9:49:46 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Bitsy

The truck I saw, obviously had it’s spring brakes come on. He had the hood open in the fuel bay. Wires dangling, patched hoses, it was just horrifying. This man might be driving on the same road as you or I.. or our kids. Yikes.


17 posted on 12/31/2011 9:50:11 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

Yes.

Watch for weight signs.. you’ll see this in a lot of places.

I run under 10K now. Hardly a road out there I can’t run on (unless it says “no commercial trucks” or load limit 9000 GVW like 35E south of Saint Paul MN)


18 posted on 12/31/2011 10:02:08 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn
First off, this is theft by Government fiat. It's ridiculous.

Police claim he was not doing a local delivery. He was less than 4 miles from his delivery.

I guess it depends on how they define 'local delivery'. On the report the driver said he was another town... Either way, Pa towns are starving for money because they won't quit spending, and it's easier to stick to someone from out of town.

19 posted on 12/31/2011 10:03:55 AM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Exton1

See my post #8.


20 posted on 12/31/2011 10:05:29 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: momincombatboots
I have talked with a number of over-the-road truckers (and some of their wives.) Almost to a man, they love their job and seem to want to do it forever.
21 posted on 12/31/2011 10:12:39 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: cableguymn

40,000 NEW LAWS coming on line tomorrow America. Rejoice. Now we all can be criminals and need bigger government to oversee us and control us. God save the Republic.


22 posted on 12/31/2011 10:16:45 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: cableguymn

My company has a good relationship with the local police. If they get pulled over with a load for us,the cops let him pass with no problem.
Otherwise the lumberyard would be a really quiet place.


23 posted on 12/31/2011 10:18:41 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I do local because my wife and 2 kids won’t fit in the truck. I have done other things.. I keep going back to commercial trucking of some sort.


24 posted on 12/31/2011 10:27:17 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn
I once made a residential delivery to a home in a neighborhood which had No Thru Trucks posted. While I was unloading the freight, an old guy from across the street stormed over to me and said, "Didn't you see the sign, no thru trucks?"

I said, "I'm not through yet."

25 posted on 12/31/2011 10:31:30 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: JohnG45
No, trucks in that class are listed by gross weight (i.e. full weight), which in itself is not an accurate portrayal. The higher the weight classification, the more taxes you pay. That particular truck was listed at 30,000 lbs. But I know for a fact that it is possible to load it to weigh more than that.

The cop saw 30,000 lbs listed on the registration, but then he also recognized that the truck was empty. At that point, he could have made him follow him to a place that had scales and gotten a weight, or he could have let me go and waited for a much larger truck to come by which is why he was waiting on that road to begin with.

26 posted on 12/31/2011 10:40:57 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat

I have nothing but respect for you and your chosen profession.

It has always appeared to me that trucker’s are low hanging fruit for a state trooper.


27 posted on 12/31/2011 10:55:33 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: Jeff Chandler

28 posted on 12/31/2011 10:57:43 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: JohnG45

It’s not my profession any more. In my late 30’s, I decided to hang it up, sell my truck, and enroll in college. Today, I’m an engineer. But I am blessed to have my blue-collar roots.


29 posted on 12/31/2011 11:02:53 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Neidermeyer; cableguymn

There are NO Federal or State requirements to list the actual weight of a commercial vehicle on the truck data plate. Except the GROSS weight class the vehicle was certified under. Even at that, that weight has no bearing on what the truck actually weighs, or how much weight it can carry. Only the Maxiumum it can weigh. Even that figure, BTW, has nothing to do with the Federal “Classification” either. It’s a horrid, confusing, mess that is exacerbated by 70 years of new regulations and codified definitions being layered on top of each other.

The only place you’ll see the actual weight of THAT truck is on the the MSO/CO and the manufacturers’ Build Statement.

IF that truck in the OP was a Motor Carrier of Property (Common Carrier), he’s home free. If he was a Contract carrier, he’s in a grey area. If he wasn’t operating under any Federal authority, he’s subject only to State, County and, Local laws.

I would, first, check State statues for the regs on signage. How high, lowest portion, distance from roadway, dimensions, visibility, reflectivity, and whether or not it was posted in accordance with all regs pertaining to Public Notice and time. Every State has them.


30 posted on 12/31/2011 11:17:37 AM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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To: cableguymn

Same here. It’s called Road Junkie. Gotta get that fix. lol


31 posted on 12/31/2011 11:25:37 AM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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To: Hoodat
But I am blessed to have my blue-collar roots.


You got my respect.

32 posted on 12/31/2011 11:32:22 AM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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To: papasmurf

Yup.. I’ve done blue collar, white collar, even owned a few non transport related businesses..

I still keep going back. Once the kids are old enough, I’ll be back doing OTR if the Mexican companies haven’t ruined that for us.


33 posted on 12/31/2011 11:37:17 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

It just gets in your blood, like a germ. LOL My dad had it, but my Mom finally “cured” him. One of my Brothers has it, as do I.

I’ve owned Restaurants, Motorcycle dealerships, and trucks. I’ve always found a way to include trucking in them. I was a Carrier and Broker. Sold my trucking in 3/07, and brokerage 8/08. Now I’m “jonesin’” to truck again. Go figure.


34 posted on 12/31/2011 11:48:48 AM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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To: papasmurf

I was adopted. My birth father was a truck driver. It’s not a germ.

It’s in your genes.


35 posted on 12/31/2011 12:12:33 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: I am Richard Brandon

Some things you don’t know that aren’t posted can cost you also. I have driven local for a multi state LTL carrier for 33 years, and was surprised to learn of a fine I was lucky to have avoided.
I was informed, after making a couple of deliveries at DFW airport that, due to homeland security rules, all loads must be padlocked. I was told the fine was $40,000(not sure if that is accurate though). My employer never informed us, though I assume responsibility as a professional.


36 posted on 12/31/2011 12:36:56 PM PST by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: cableguymn
This was my home for a number of years.. Photobucket
37 posted on 12/31/2011 12:37:38 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn
Got to meet the guys that drove this before storm chasers hit TV as well :)
Photobucket
38 posted on 12/31/2011 12:39:38 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

I did loads for them. Good pay and good payers.

Were you O/O or employee? Why’d you leave?


39 posted on 12/31/2011 1:17:05 PM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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To: tpmintx
They probably set it up that way.

To me that is treason, as it goes against the intent of the COTUS.

40 posted on 12/31/2011 1:20:07 PM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: papasmurf

O/O..

While I love the open road.. I also wanted a family. I keep my addiction to the road in check as well as I can doing local dash and backs.

If I am out overnight it’s rare.


41 posted on 12/31/2011 1:25:18 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

I know what you mean. I was a single parent, so overnights were not on my menu. But after the kids left...so did I. That was 20 years ago. lol I don’t like staying out for more than about a week or so. From 2000-2004 I had 4-5 of my trucks run regional, and 2-3 run the road. Regional was pretty much the 4 surrounding States, so out and back was the norm. Plus, too, they had very generous home time, like 3-4 days (lol).


42 posted on 12/31/2011 1:41:49 PM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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To: papasmurf

I remember when i was running for Panther you had to know how to play the dispatchers. If they knew you wanted to go home, they would send you in the wrong direction. I am in Minnesota. If I was in Ohio they would send to to Florida.

If you let um, you could end up out months at a time.

Their turn over rate for dispatchers was VERY high, so the trick always worked.. They would call and say “thinking about going home soon?” “NOPE!!”... I’d get a run going with in 200 miles from home.


43 posted on 12/31/2011 1:51:12 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

Oh. heck, that’s most dispatchers. I think they were taught that in Dispatcher 101! I used to tell them, I’m going wherever this truck’s pointing. I really don’t care where that is, whatcha’ got for me? But, I would stay in touch with a few other drivers to find out what the board looked like, so I pretty much knew what all the loads were.

When I wanted/needed to go home, I’d call them and say take me off the board, I’m puttin’ it in the wind. I wouldn’t ever ask. That would be a rookie mistake of huge proportions. lol


44 posted on 12/31/2011 2:09:35 PM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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To: JohnG45

I drove over-the-road for years and loved it, but could never make much at it (young and spendy). Truckers nowadays are also being ripped off by the oil companies. In my day, diesel was much cheaper than regular. Now, it’s much more.


45 posted on 12/31/2011 2:15:29 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

Ripped off by the oil companies? Not hardly.

They are being ripped off by the taxing authorities!

taxed for everything they do. didn’t buy enough fuel in a state? tax. Plates? tax. tollway? tax.


46 posted on 12/31/2011 7:41:00 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

How true!


47 posted on 12/31/2011 8:02:21 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Yorlik803

It shouldn’t take a good relationship with the local police, drug cartel, bands of gypsies, mafia, Taliban or PTA to be able to conduct business.


48 posted on 01/01/2012 8:36:49 AM PST by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Bon mots

It helps. It not like we give the police a break of stuff. We just let them aware that the trucks are our life blood


49 posted on 01/01/2012 8:48:54 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Bon mots

It helps. It not like we give the police a break of stuff. We just let them aware that the trucks are our life blood


50 posted on 01/01/2012 8:48:57 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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