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Update: L.A. fires likely set by more than one arsonist, police believe
LA Times ^ | 12/31/11 | Andrew Blankstein

Posted on 12/31/2011 10:47:58 AM PST by jimbo123

Los Angeles authorities investigating a string of more than 35 fires set over the last two days strongly suspect the blazes are the work of more than one arsonist.

On Friday morning, 21 fires were started in a relatively small area around Hollywood and West Hollywood. On Friday night and Saturday morning, 16 more fires were reported. They were similar to the ones in Hollywood but were spread out over a much larger area.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arson; carburnings; carfires; hollywood; losangeles; sanfernandovalley
Most likely muslims, given the fact that the LAPD have already arrested 2 suspects on Thursday night and are now pretending that those arrests didn't happen. Why are they not releasing the name of the second suspect arrested on Thursday?
1 posted on 12/31/2011 10:48:00 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I’d go after Amish, White Rednecks, Gun Owners, Jews, Bible Worshippers, CEO’s, and children under 5. Gotta be one of these!!


2 posted on 12/31/2011 10:51:29 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: jimbo123

goin’ for the burn baby.......


3 posted on 12/31/2011 10:53:24 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: jimbo123

Dead Jihadists walking?


4 posted on 12/31/2011 10:55:32 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: jimbo123

Angry “youts” if not it’s got to be the amish without a doubt!


5 posted on 12/31/2011 10:56:26 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: jimbo123

Sounds like the MO of the “yutes” outside of Paris—burn the cars.

35 cars is a lot of cars to torch—unless you are trying to make a statement.

It would be easier to steal them.

I think some “yutes” are on the prowl.


6 posted on 12/31/2011 10:59:50 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: jimbo123

Why would you accuse Muslims? These are hardly “Muslim” names!

The two arrested:
22 year-old Sun Valley resident Samual Arrington.

This guy was the second arrested, but not for arson....he was burning trash!
....55 year-old Alejandro Pineda.


7 posted on 12/31/2011 11:01:42 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: toldyou

Arrington (his non-Muslim name) was the one arrested on Thursday. And there were 35 fires set AFTER “Arrington” was arrested.


8 posted on 12/31/2011 11:04:59 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Hmmmmmmm, it does remind one of the car fires in Paris started by the Muslims. Could be.


9 posted on 12/31/2011 11:10:33 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: jimbo123

Someone is burning up L.A.? I don’t get it....So what’s the problem?


10 posted on 12/31/2011 11:12:54 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (I have a pet who's a pup that's why I call him puppet.)
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To: jimbo123

ELF raising their ugly head again?


11 posted on 12/31/2011 11:14:19 AM PST by Figment
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To: jimbo123

The fact that it could be either muslims or occupiers speaks volumes.


12 posted on 12/31/2011 11:15:38 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: jimbo123

My bet is eco-anarchist types. Guys who dress in black. Not Muzzies


13 posted on 12/31/2011 11:15:38 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: toldyou; All

Update:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/31/us-losangeles-carfires-idUSTRE7BU0D320111231

No suspects were in custody Saturday morning, Eisenman said. Police released people who had been detained in the investigation after determining they had no connection to the fires, she said.


14 posted on 12/31/2011 11:21:54 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: exit82

Wouldn’t be surprised if the OCCUPY WALL STREET crowd is setting these fires.


15 posted on 12/31/2011 11:23:39 AM PST by library user (I%2Bwant%2Bmy%2Bheadstone%2Bto%2Bread%253A%2B%2522He%2Bdied%2Bwhile%2Bdoing%2Bwhat%2Bhe%2Benjoyed%2B)
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To: jimbo123
Most likely muslims

This is the second thread you've posted about this story today. Where are you getting the idea that the criminals torching cars in Los Angeles are mobs of angry Muslim youths?

16 posted on 12/31/2011 11:25:35 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Dollars to donuts it’s the OWS crowd.


17 posted on 12/31/2011 11:28:37 AM PST by library user (I%2Bwant%2Bmy%2Bheadstone%2Bto%2Bread%253A%2B%2522He%2Bdied%2Bwhile%2Bdoing%2Bwhat%2Bhe%2Benjoyed%2B)
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To: library user
Dollars to donuts it’s the OWS crowd.

My first though as well. OWS, ELF or anarchist types. Or just some deranged pyromaniacs.

18 posted on 12/31/2011 11:34:41 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

It’s a New Year’s tradition for muslim “youths” to set automobiles on fire.


19 posted on 12/31/2011 11:35:37 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

"it's got to be your older sister again"

20 posted on 12/31/2011 11:37:03 AM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Drew68

Normally I would be the first to think it was some far left OWS freak, but the areas they are targeting, are not wealthy areas..when you think of North Hollywood, you don’t think “Rich” these people are not wealthy. Im thinking some deranged person who might have gotten evicted from an apartment recently and is getting revenge.


21 posted on 12/31/2011 11:39:31 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: jimbo123

I understand that these two were NOT responsible for all the fires. That was the purpose of my post. They were just two guys who were arrested for setting fires.

Correction...Arrington is not from Sun Valley, but from Sunland.


22 posted on 12/31/2011 11:39:48 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: jimbo123
It’s a New Year’s tradition for muslim “youths” to set automobiles on fire.

When has this happened before in the United States?

23 posted on 12/31/2011 11:41:18 AM PST by Drew68
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To: dennisw
My guess too. Didn't the ELFers set fire to a bunch of SUVs at some point not too long ago?
24 posted on 12/31/2011 11:48:40 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: jimbo123

The LA area would be highly susceptible to a terrorist attack during Santa Ana conditions, the hot dry desert wind that strikes every October. By tossing incendiaries from cars into open brush with careful attention to the location and wind direction, you could burn out half the city in one day.


25 posted on 12/31/2011 11:49:22 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: jimbo123
"...police believe."

Can these liberal nits spell t-e-r-r-o-r-i-s-t-s.........

26 posted on 12/31/2011 11:50:58 AM PST by yoe
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Im thinking some deranged person who might have gotten evicted from an apartment recently and is getting revenge.

Could be. You're probably right about the OWS folks. They usually target businesses. Then again, it's L.A. Could be anyone. There's no shortage of crazy in Los Angeles.

I would be very surprised, however, if the perps turn out to be gangs of angry Muslim youths. This is pretty much without precedent in the United States.

27 posted on 12/31/2011 12:43:09 PM PST by Drew68
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To: All
The entertainment industry feel good liberals respond?

"You know, some people are making a big deal out of it," said one popular singer in tears.

"Who cares? They're not going to go too far with it. Maybe those people are so poor, some of the people who do that they're so poor they've never torched anything in their lives. Let them torch those things for once."

28 posted on 12/31/2011 12:52:47 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Drew68

One of the apartments they hit last night is two blocks away from where my sister lives..so tonight they are putting their cars on the street. The areas that are being hit are not wealthy areas. The OWS freaks hate people with wealth..the areas in Hollywood, who lives there, Hispanics, these are not wealthy people..whoever these people are there are obviously more then 1 involved. Can’t go from West Hollywood to North Hollywood THAT fast..so probably a few of these idiots got together and think this is cool, scaring the hell out of people. They are targeting apartments with car ports so they are using the cars to set apartments on fire in the middle of the night, so they want people to die..the question is..why


29 posted on 12/31/2011 1:08:51 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: dennisw
My bet is eco-anarchist types.

My first thought as well.

30 posted on 12/31/2011 1:11:50 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

They hit Jim Morrison’s old home in Laurel Canyon.

It was recently for sale at $1.2 Million.

So I don’t think it’s limited to where the less affluent folks live.


31 posted on 12/31/2011 1:15:24 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: Yankee

Id like to know where those freaks found out where Jim Morrison lives..kind of odd they would hit a house of a singer who has been dead for many years.


32 posted on 12/31/2011 1:18:28 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Huh? I didn’t say “lives”. I said his old home, as in: where he resided at one time before his death.

That was the house that inspired the song “Love Street” about.


34 posted on 12/31/2011 1:39:07 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: Yankee

I didnt follow Morrison so I had no idea..sorry for the confusion there


35 posted on 12/31/2011 1:42:45 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: library user
A suspect here is described as "a male driving a white and tan mid-1990s Lexus ES300 that was seen at one or more of the fires." Just off the top of my head, doesn't sound like an OWS type. I wouldn't expect them to be as organized as these arsonists appear to be.
36 posted on 12/31/2011 1:52:49 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

As long as I didn’t give away where Jimbo’s been hiding since he faked his death, it’s OK. ;-)


37 posted on 12/31/2011 2:01:03 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: Drew68

“When has this happened before in the United States?”

Maybe not so many at once, as in the LA fires, but this is interesting....

According to 2004 data from the U.S. Fire
Administration and the National Fire Protection
Association, 36,000 intentionally set vehicle
fires occurred, an increase of 18 percent from
the previous year.

Vehicle arson accounted for
$165,000,000 in property damage, an increase
of 25.0 percent from the previous year. Vehicle
arson accounted for 29.0 percent of all arsons.
http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/aaw07-mediakit.pdf


38 posted on 12/31/2011 2:20:46 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: jimbo123

I’ll go ahead and get conspiratorial here, and say my guess is it’s some Hollweird scriptwriter planning to off someone they are tired of living with, and all this is a diversion so it won’t be so obvious.

It is Hollyweird after all.

I’d look at liberal scriptwriters, the moment someone “accidentally” perishes in one of these.

Because my theory is it won’t have been an accident.


39 posted on 12/31/2011 2:29:39 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: toldyou
Maybe not so many at once, as in the LA fires, but this is interesting....

According to 2004 data from the U.S. Fire Administration and the National Fire Protection Association, 36,000 intentionally set vehicle fires occurred, an increase of 18 percent from the previous year.

My question was how many of these fires are set by mobs of Muslim youths? The thread poster made it sound as though Muslims torching cars here is a yearly tradition. Maybe in Parisian ghettos but not in America as far as I can tell, not by Muslims anyways.

You posted 2004 data. I wonder what the post 2008 data on car torchings are? I'll bet it's even higher and I'd further bet that most of these were set not out of malicious vandalism but by owners who could no longer make their car payments.

What's going on in L.A., I'm guessing, is the work of a serial arsonist.

40 posted on 12/31/2011 3:42:54 PM PST by Drew68
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