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If congressional redistricting fails, candidates can always run statewide, Stumbo says
cn2 Pure Politics ^ | 12/28/2011 | Ryan Alessi

Posted on 12/31/2011 12:47:31 PM PST by Republican Wildcat

Redrawing the congressional maps will likely produce a few headaches to start the session — but gridlock could produce an interesting political result, House Speaker Greg Stumbo said.

Stumbo, a Democrat from Prestonsburg, said if the courts have to intervene over the new congressional maps, Kentucky could end up with all the congressional candidates running statewide and the top six vote-getters go to Congress. That happened in 1932 when lawmakers clashed over redrawing the lines.

“What the court would do likely is require what they did once before is that there be an election this cycle and the top vote-getters in the congressional races just become the winners,” Stumbo said (3:00 to 4:00 of the interview)

Find out what Stumbo says about potential changes to the 1st and 6th congressional districts after the 4:30 mark of the video.

On the state House redistricting map, Stumbo said he couldn’t commit to whether the map would avoid pitting two incumbents against each other in the same district.

“We don’t know what map. Maybe yes and maybe no,” he said.

But he acknowledged that Republicans have a bit of an advantage in redistricting because most of the population growth occurred in suburban areas (Northern Kentucky, Bowling Green, outside of Lexington and in the ring counties around Louisville) that have been more conservative.

“Because of the growth, they are probably better situated to do that. That is likely. But they also are vulnerable in some of the seats they picked up last cycle,” Stumbo said (2:15).

Stumbo predicted the chambers to successfully redraw their own maps.

“The House and Senate plans likely will be done. Whether we can do something on the congressional map has yet to be seen,” he said. (6:30)

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: redistricting; stumbo
The real battle that is going to cause the problem is the 6th U.S. House district where Ben Chandler barely won in 2010 - by like 500 votes. The Senate has a map that keeps it almost identical but adds a few more precincts that tend to vote Republican - enough to have turned the election...meanwhile the Democrats want to alter the shape of the discrict a bit and put strong Republican counties all together in the 4th district to make it easier for Chandler to hold the 6th district. thing I don't like about the Republican map is that is basically permanently concedes the 3rd district by putting the Republican side of Louisville in another district - the 3rd is very difficult for Republicans to win, but it is possible - Anne Northup held it for 10 years...the "new" 3rd basically makes it a permanent Democrat seat.

Not sure how a scenario where all House members run at large would shake out...I have no doubt a Republican candidate would be the top vote getter, but how the others would place would be the question...wouldn't be a victory to be #1 while 2nd through 6th are all Democrats.

1 posted on 12/31/2011 12:47:42 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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2 posted on 12/31/2011 12:55:53 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Agree... The d@mn 'rats, are :(attempting) to destroy the consent of the governed....
Stealing the election(s)... Again.
3 posted on 12/31/2011 1:36:54 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, $pend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: Republican Wildcat; All
Just a thought.... for those people here who are major advocates of third parties, or who believe that the state and national Republican parties are run by RINOs, multiple member districts rather than winner-take-all single-member districts are a major game-changer.

A key difference between multiparty European democracy and the American system is that third parties basically have no chance in a winner-take-all system unless they can replace one of the two major parties.

If all of Kentucky's congressional candidates were running on a single ballot, it would be within the realm of possibility for a “Tea Party” conservative running as an independent (or for that matter, a Libertarian, Green, or some other party) to place in the top six.

Again, I'm a Republican and do not favor the creation of a third party because I believe it is unnecessary. Also, I am not a fan of massive change merely for change’s sake without good reason, but I am in favor of state's rights and the local experimentation that allows. An at-large congressional election in Kentucky, given current political dynamics in the Republican Party, could have some very unexpected consequences.

4 posted on 12/31/2011 2:12:40 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina; Republican Wildcat

I guess that Stumbo has never heard of Baker v. Carr and how elections where legislators all run statewide violates “one man, one vote.”

1932 or not, what Stumbo said will never happen in 2012. If the KY legislature and governor deadlock on redistricting, a federal judge will draw the lines long before they have statewide, at-large congressional elections.

5 posted on 12/31/2011 4:48:42 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Republican Wildcat

In 1992, KY Dems, who had a 4-3 advantage in the state’s House delegation, got greedy and tried to draw 6 winnable districts for them (the state lost a CD after the 1990 Census). They extended Hubbard’s KY-01 to the SE to protect Natcher’s KY-02 for when he retired (instead of adding Daviess County); took out Republican East Louisville from Bunning’s KY-04 (adding it to Mazzolli’s KY-03) and added historically Dem counties from Eastern KY; and redistricted Rogers in with Perkins in a new KY-05 that combined GOP counties in southern KY with heavily Dem Coal Country counties. Far from getting a 6-0 Dem delegation, KY had a 5-1 GOP delegation from 1996-2006. Had the Dems drawn über-Republican districts for Bunning and Rogers, they could have had a 4-2 Dem delegation at least prior to Natcher’s death, and maybe afterwards as well. Now, they’re whining that Republicans have a marked advantage in 4 CDs and the Dems have a precarious hold on the other 2. Stupid, greedy Democrats.

6 posted on 12/31/2011 5:08:35 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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Right - these are there gerrymanders that have essentially remained intact.

It’s too bad we could not get control of the state House - adding Oldham County to the 3rd Congressional district would have really changed things.

7 posted on 01/01/2012 12:09:01 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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Too bad, it would be fine with me for Kentucky since we’d win all 6 seats.

8 posted on 01/02/2012 4:57:47 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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