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Suspected Arson Attacks Up to 44 in Los Angeles, Sources Say
ABC News ^ | Dec. 31, 2011 | Richard Esposito

Posted on 12/31/2011 1:59:20 PM PST by La Enchiladita

At least 16 cars burned Saturday morning in Los Angeles bringing the total number of suspected arson fires to 44 over the last two days, sources told ABC News.

In nearly every case, the fires were set in cars parked in and around the Hollywood area. In some cases, the flames spread to nearby buildings.

Investigators have not determined a motive behind the blazes, nor have they established whether they are the work of one person or the efforts of people acting together.

They are looking at all possibilities behind the blazes, especially the prospect of a serial arsonist on the loose.

San Fernando fire captain George Villegas says some people have been questioned for the crimes.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arson; burkhart; ihateamerica; lafd; losangeles; westhollywood
(snip)Police said detectives are looking for a male driving a white and tan mid-1990s Lexus ES300 that was seen at one or more of the fires. No description of the suspect was released, and police did not give any further details.


1 posted on 12/31/2011 1:59:28 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

French Muslims? Out of control Amish?


2 posted on 12/31/2011 2:01:24 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: SkyDancer

Probably Occupy Wall St. miscreants who can’t get to the homes of the 1%ers.


3 posted on 12/31/2011 2:07:48 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: La Enchiladita

This won’t compare to what these idiots will do when Zer0 loses the election.


4 posted on 12/31/2011 2:11:14 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: vette6387; SkyDancer

Whoever they are, they appear to be well-organized. The fires are set in rapid succession a few minutes apart. Also, police say there is a similar m.o. in all fires, without adding particulars. I assume the fires are all started with some sort of device.....


5 posted on 12/31/2011 2:12:49 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: SkyDancer

The one guy they caught was Amish.


6 posted on 12/31/2011 2:17:04 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: La Enchiladita

“Suspected Arson”? As opposed to spontaneous combustion?


7 posted on 12/31/2011 2:17:43 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Fewer funds for welfare, steady encroachment by Mexicans on their traditional role of privileged minority, entitlement mentality, recent sudden release of many of them from prison, inspiration provided by muzzies:

YUTES —a guess.


8 posted on 12/31/2011 2:19:10 PM PST by gaijin
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To: La Enchiladita

“Whoever they are, they appear to be well-organized.”

The latest Wired Magazine had an article about the use of social networking and/or Blackberry Messenger Service to organize thuggery.


9 posted on 12/31/2011 2:22:33 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: SkyDancer

One guy arrested look like one of those out of control Amish, doncha think?
See video:
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=8483324


10 posted on 12/31/2011 2:22:43 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: La Enchiladita

-——some sort of device.....——

insert a lit cigarette into a match pack, pour gas under the vehicle, place the lit cig/matches on the gas . When the cig burns down, the matches ignite the gas and the tires/car burn


11 posted on 12/31/2011 2:25:23 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: La Enchiladita

Well, there are at least three obvious candidates:

1. Muslims.

2. Occupiers.

3. A flash mob, which in recently reported cases have consisted of black youts.

If, as the authorities suggest, there are a LOT of people involved, then it’s probably 2 or 3.

Unfortunately, it would be politically incorrect to say that any of these groups are involved, so we may never know for sure.


12 posted on 12/31/2011 2:32:24 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

They will be found—people can’t keep their moths shut about their deeds—they will boast—I bet its part of OWS but it could be any number of things. The truth will come out in time.


13 posted on 12/31/2011 2:37:01 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: La Enchiladita

Looks like they have discovered the cheapest weapon of all. Wondered how long it would take......


15 posted on 12/31/2011 2:37:41 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: raybbr
“Suspected Arson”? As opposed to spontaneous combustion?

I guess they're not ruling out a careless chain-smoker.

16 posted on 12/31/2011 2:41:21 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cicero
Volt owners
17 posted on 12/31/2011 2:42:39 PM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: sillipuddi

;^)


18 posted on 12/31/2011 2:45:23 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: Cicero

I have no idea who it might be, but revenge as a motive keeps coming to mind.....


19 posted on 12/31/2011 2:46:20 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: La Enchiladita

There should be “shoot on sight” orders out for those arsonists. Instead the authorities are afraid to even get suspicious.


20 posted on 12/31/2011 2:47:08 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cicero

You forgot zombies.


21 posted on 12/31/2011 2:50:15 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
They will be found—people can’t keep their moths shut about their deeds
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A muslim terrorist cell would have the discipline to remain silent.

22 posted on 12/31/2011 2:56:41 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Rome2000

Zombies just eat people. They can’t start fires. Sheesh! :)


23 posted on 12/31/2011 3:16:51 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: La Enchiladita

Was in the garden today and noticed the Santa Ana winds here in the IE. Was thinking geez I hope some nut is not out setting fire with the wind up. Seems to happen all to frequently. Stay safe SoCal.


24 posted on 12/31/2011 3:20:00 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Waiting for the new tagline to download)
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To: wintertime
"A muslim terrorist cell would have the discipline to remain silent."

Yup. Too quiet. Too many fires in a short span of time. Too well coordinated. If I were a bettin' man, I'd put my money on imported francophone Mohammedans. Their penchant for toasting cars in major urban centers is well documented.
25 posted on 12/31/2011 3:51:02 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: vladimir998; Rome2000

Fire’s the one thing zombies fear. That and automatic shotguns.


26 posted on 12/31/2011 4:00:50 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: La Enchiladita

I hate to say it but 44 fires in one night such as this without getting caught is quite an accomplishment. Very sad for the victims and concerning for the firefighters. The resources it took last night . . . some freak is getting their rocks off with causing chaos. My guess is a serial killer personality type. Loner or a well organized small group. Most likely a single person. Easier to control the outcome that way.


27 posted on 12/31/2011 4:24:47 PM PST by GOP Poet (Time for Bambi and his commie crew to go.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Glad to hear they have at least tied a vehicle to the crimes. My guess is they purposely did this the night before New Years Eve knowing the strain on resource. Most likely he or they will do it again tonight for just that reason.

Hope I am wrong though. Maybe the SOB will be in the precinct in a few hours.

28 posted on 12/31/2011 4:28:44 PM PST by GOP Poet (Time for Bambi and his commie crew to go.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Holy cow!

29 posted on 12/31/2011 4:50:28 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: bert
insert a lit cigarette into a match pack, pour gas under the vehicle, place the lit cig/matches on the gas .,/p>

That's one trick. These documents describe lots more.

Animal Liberation Front, "Arson-Around With Auntie ALF." This was once available as free download from the ALF web site. It has been removed. However, an Internet search will locate several sources. (Describes various incendiary devices)

Earth Liberation Front, "Setting Fires With Electrical Timers: An Earth Liberation Front Guide, May, 2001." This was formerly available from the ELF web site. It has been removed from the site. However, an Internet search will locate several sources. (Describes electrical igniters for incendiaries)

Those are free. The following you have to pay for.

Department of the Army, Incendiaries, TM 31-201-1, Randle, WA, Bohica Concepts, 1966. Also available from Gold Nugget Army Surplus.

Anonymous, CIA Field Expedient Incendiary Manual, available from Paladin Press. (Good discussion of delay devices)

Whitney, Lyle, "Black Book of Arson," El Dorado, AR, Desert Publications, 1987. (discusses the physics of fires, and how to set them effectively)

Lots of information out there, just in case you ever need it.

30 posted on 12/31/2011 5:55:33 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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To: patriot08
Yeah, once they learn to bowl and smoke cigarettes you don't know what they're capable of.

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31 posted on 12/31/2011 8:46:55 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: unixfox

The week before the election,remove any GOP bumperstickers from you car and yard signs from your house.
Stock up on ammo and stuff you can use to barracde you house.
The natives will be restless. Like a nationwide NBA champion win,the urban areaswill explode


32 posted on 01/01/2012 1:53:46 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Magic Fingers

Organizing a flash mob is one thing . Getting materials for over 40 incendiary devices ,building the incendiary devices,distributing the incendiary devices & doing it without leaving a trail that can be followed by a drunken blind man takes a modest amount of smarts & organizational skills as well as a serious motivation not something from your average gangbanger skill set.

My guess is Ocuppy supporters with college education maybe following the helpful hints from the ELF(Earth Liberation Front),


33 posted on 01/01/2012 2:25:57 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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