Skip to comments.Gov. Perry Pockets Salary, Pension
Posted on 12/31/2011 6:32:48 PM PST by CedarDave
Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry is a so-called double dipper, collecting a state government pension and salary totaling more than $240,000.
Perrys disclosure that he retired this year while still governor of Texas has become somewhat of an issue in the days leading up to the GOP presidential caucuses in Iowa on Tuesday.
Given New Mexicos distaste for double dipping by public employees, I thought you might want to know more. We banned the practice for most state and local government workers in 2010.
Perry, 61, filed a financial disclosure this month with the Federal Election Commission showing he is collecting an annual state pension of more than $92,000 on top of his yearly governors salary of $150,000.
He continues to make pension contributions and will be eligible for a pension increase once he leaves the Governors Office, in addition to state-provided health care benefits and Social Security payments, according to published reports.
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Not a big deal.
If he’s eligible to receive them, he’s eligible.
That’s all that matters on this point.
This whole “story” is a load of BS. Perry is following the pension rules exactly as they were written and intended.
I took my Social Security when I reached my full retirement age even though I continued working. I did nothing wrong. I followed exactly the rules set up by the system, just as Perry has.
This does not deserve a drop of printer’s ink and is designed to trick the gullible into thinking that Perry has done something wrong or is a hypocrite. Neither is true..
This has been posted and I believe this article is somewhat ‘twisted’ so I’ll ping others who know more about it. He was entitled to the ‘retirement’ from what i’ve read.
Good for Governor Rick. He deserves it for making Texas the shining jobs state on top of the hill.
Well BG, let's hope so.
This is old news and perfectly legal. There is no legal or moral issue here.
- So - How is Hussein Junior doing golfing in Hawaii at $4,000,000 plus of the US taxpayer’s money for just a couple of weeks CedarDave?
I believe Rick Perry has a real Birth Certificate and can produce an official Marriage Certificate for his “native born American” parents too.....
I am not inferring that Obama is a CORRUPT BASTARD or anything like that.....
CD with all due respect, it seems you may be leaning toward Gingrich; reasons that are only known to you. You are implying that Gov Perry is doing something illegal or exceptionally underhanded but may I present some information regarding Gingrich?
05/04/1979 He voted for a federal land grab that put tens of millions of
acres of land in the hands of Washington bureaucrats.
09/20/1979 He voted to raise the debt ceiling for the first time.
09/27/1979 He voted to establish the Federal Department of Education.
06/04/1980 He voted to raise the debt ceiling for the second time.
02/05/1981 He voted to raise the debt ceiling for the third time.
06/28/1984 He voted to raise the debt ceiling for the fourth time.
04/02/1987 He cosponsored the 1987 Fairness Doctrine (anti 1st Amendment
02/22/1989 He cosponsored the Global Warming Prevention Act of 1989.
10/22/1991 He voted for an amendment that would create a National Police
03//1993 He was passionately in favor of sending $1.6 Billion in
foreign aid to Russia.
11/19/1993 He voted for the NAFTA Implementation Act.
11/27/1994 He supported the GATT Treaty giving sovereignty to the U.N.
04/10/1995 He supported Federal taxdollars being spent on abortions.
06//1995 He wrote the foreword to a book about tearing down the U.S.
Constitution and implementing a Fascist World Government.
08/27/1995 He suggests that drug smuggling should carry a death sentence.
01/06/1996 He himself conceived a secret CIA mission to topple the Iranian
04/18/1996 He voted for Federal restrictions on laser sighting devices.
04/25/1996 Voted for the single largest increase on Federal education
spending ($3.5 Billion)
09/16/1996 He voted for the anti-gun Brady Campaigns Lautenberg Gun Ban,
which took away gun rights for people involved in certain misdemeanors.
U.S. Federal Judge John Roll Murdered: The Sheriffs Judge Who Upheld The Constitution And Reversed Congress!
09/25/1996 Introduced H.R. 4170, demanded life-sentence or execution for
someone bringing 2 ounces of marijuana across the border.
09/28/1996 He voted for the Gun Free School Zones Act which resulted in
schools being easier targets for shooters, and disarming law-abiding
//1996 He earned a D rating from the Gun Owners of America.
01/22/1997 Congress gave him a record-setting $300,000 fine for ethical
11/05/1998 He resigned from his House seat three days after being elected
to his 11th term.
10/13/2005 He called for universal but confidential DNA testing of
11/29/2006 He said that free speech should be curtailed in order to fight
terrorism. Wants to stop terrorists from using the internet. Called for a
serious debate about the 1st Amendment.
11/29/2006 He called for a Geneva Convention for terrorists so it would
be clear who the Constitution need not apply to.
02/15/2007 He supported Bushs proposal for mandatory carbon caps.
04/04/2007 He says that there should be a clear distinction about what
weapons should be reserved for only for the military.
04/11/2007 He had a public debate with John Kerry on global warming, in
which Newt agreed with Kerry and his views on the environment, praised his
book, and almost hugged him.
04/20/2007 He praised NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg: said that he takes his
hat off to the mayor for proving government can be effective.
LESSON SHOULD BE LEARNED FROM Bloombergs FAILURE OF NEW YORK: States Like New York, Are Taxing Themselves To Death: Taxes 27% Higher Forced People To Leave.
05/20/2007 He would bypass the court system by establishing a military
tribunal system to lock people up the way Abraham Lincoln wouldve done
05/20/2007 He would establish a nationwide ID card with biometrics so you
can actually track everybody in the country.
04/17/2008 Made a commercial with Nancy Pelosi on Climate Change.
04/28/2008 He said that allow some terror to happen, to keep the people
04/28/2008 He wants yet another new Federal agency to be very aggressive
against terrorists and have extraordinary abilities that are not
restricted by the constitution.
09/28/2008 Says if he were in office, he would have reluctantly voted for
the $700B TARP bailout.
Obamas $12.8 Trillion Bankers Gambling Debt Bailout: Black Unemployment ~ 16.7% Highest In 27 Years, But Lower Than Overall Unemployment ~ Overall Real Unemployment is 23% Of Which 79.96% Are White!
10/01/2008 Says in an article that TARP was a workout, not a bailout.
09/28/2008 He says that McCains vote for TARP bailouts rivaled President
Eisenhowers pledge to send troops to Korea.
John McCain, Newt Gingrich, & The List Of Those In The Hidden Government.
12/08/2008 He was paid $300,000 by Freddie Mac to halt Congress from
bringing necessary reform.
03/31/2009 Says we should have Singapore-style drug tests for Americans.
10/16/2009 He angered conservatives by endorsing super liberal Dede
07/30/2010 Says that Iraq was just step one in defeating the Axis of
11/15/2010 He defended Romneycare; blamed liberals
12/02/2010 He advocates a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens.
12/05/2010 He said that a website owner should be considered an enemy
combatant, hunted down and executed, for publishing leaked government memos.
01/30/2011 He lobbied for ethanol subsidies.
01/30/2011 He suggested that flex-fuel vehicles be mandated for Americans.
02/02/2011 He says we are losing the War on Terror; the conflict will be
as long as the Cold War
02/10/2011 He wants to replace the EPA instead of abolishing it.
Obamas Gestapo: The EPA
02/13/2011 He criticized Obama for sending less U.S. tax dollars to Egypt.
02/15/2011 His book said that he believes man-made climate-change and
advocated creating a new endowment for conservation and the environment.
Arctic Ice Expanding At Fastest Rate On Record: Ice Levels Identical To 1980 Levels!
03/09/2011 He blames his infidelity to multiple wives on his passion for
03/15/2011 Says that NAFTA worked because it created jobs in Mexico.
03/19/2011 He has no regrets about supporting Medicare drug coverage. (Now
$7.2T unfunded liability)
03/23/2011 He completely flip-flopped on Libyan intervention in 16 days.
03/25/2011 He plans to sign as many as 200 executive orders on his first
day as president.
04/25/2011 Hes a paid lobbyist for Federal ethanol subsidies.
05/11/2011 His campaign video said that he wants to find solutions
together, and insist on imposing those solutions on those who do not want to
05/12/2011 He was more supportive of individual health-care mandates than
05/15/2011 Said GOPs plan to cut back Medicare was too big a jump.
05/15/2011 He backed Obamas individual mandate; All of us have a
responsibility to help pay for health care.
05/16/2011 He also endorsed individual mandates in 1993 when Clinton pushed
Universal Health Care.
05/17/2011 He has an outstanding debt to Tiffanys Jewelry of between $250K
06/09/2011 His own campaign staff resigned en masse.
07/15/2011 His poorly managed campaign is over $1 Million in debt.
08/01/2011 He hired a company to create fake Twitter to appear as if he had
08/11/2011 His recent criticism of the United Nations is United Nations by
a long, long history of supporting it.
Petition: United Nations Is A Pariah State ~ Declaration Of Independence From The Corrupted United Nations
09/27/2011 He says that he helped develop the model for Homeland Security
10/07/2011 He said hed ignore the Supreme Court if need be.
11/12/2011 He advocates assassinating Iranian scientists and covert war
11/19/2011 He said Barney Frank should be arrested for his close ties
lobbying for Freddie Mac, just one month before it became public that
Gingrich was also lobbying for them at the same time.
11/20/2011 He has been outed as a paid lobbyist for drug companies, but he
still denies it.
11/22/2011 He supports the Patriot Act and would like to see it
11/22/2011 He says that matters of National Security should not be
encumbered by giving Due Process to the accused.
11/28/2011 He thinks its the job of the Federal Government to ban medical
11/28/2011 He is a Pharmaceutical lobbyist
I’m not a big Perry fan but this is old B/S and you know it. He has broken no laws. How would you like it if some FReeper put up a 100% bogus story about your candidate?
May I also add:
- Card-Carrying member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), a globalist
Will CFR Member Newt Gingrich Renounce: The NWOs Council On Foreign Relations?
- Distinguished member of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies
(neocon, pro-interventionism group)
- Member of Bohemian Grove
- Member of the World Future Society
- Voted for NAFTA, a blatant circumvention of Congress exclusive power to
regulate commerce with foreign nations. Took power from American people and
put it into the hands of unelected Binational panels, made mostly of
- Supported GATT
- Supported WTO
- Continually supported increased federal spending.
Obamas New York Citys Museum Of Hate Art: Easter Celebration ~ The Popes Toilet & Piss Christ, Tax Payers Money Working For Hate
- Supported the National Endowment for the Arts;
- Voted for the creation of the Federal Dept. of Education in 1979 under
- Big supporter of Foreign Aid even to Soviets through the Export-Import
- In one year (1994-1995) Gingrich voted for nearly $45 billion in foreign
- He helped push through Federally-funded loan guarantees to Communist China.
- He voted to raise the debt ceiling four times (one, two, three, and four).
- Urged the House to repeal the War Powers Act and give the Presidency more
- Urged Clinton to expand military presence in Bosnia.
- Supports Afghan War
- Supports Iraq War
- Calls for Iran War
- Supported Clintons welfare programs, education programs, labor programs,
and environmental programs, as well as most of his foreign affairs programs.
- Supported spending $30B for the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement
Act of 1994 that shackled gun owners with new restrictions, federalized a
number of crimes, and handed the feds police powers that the Constitution
reserves to the states.
- Voted to give billions of dollars to United Nations peacekeeping
- Pushed for a School Prayer Amendment
- Mentored by Henry Kissinger
Libyan End Game: Hopes Of The Rothschilds Federal Reserve: Backstabbing Of The Middle East Arabs > IN ORDER TO GET OUT OF THE KISSINGER T-BILL DEBT
- Bailed out savings and loan institutions in 1991. $40B Bank bailout
- He was a draft-dodger during the Vietnam War, yet pushed aggressive foreign
interventionism his entire political career, and did say that Vietnam was the
right battlefield at the right time.
Now I personally cannot object to all things listed, however, I do object to the circumvention of our United States Constitution which Gingrich has clearly supported by his votes in the past.
Disclosure: Votes have been confirmed in govtrack.us and membership in CFR and Bohemian organizations are confirmed albeit through numerous accounts (v/s a single register).
This is NOT a conservative.
The only mistake Rick made is not taking the pension earlier. As I understand it, he’s been eligible to recieve it for several years, but only started drawing it this year.
Don’t get on your high horse. I’m a Palin supporter but she isn’t running. You don’t know my alternate preference and certainly I would support Perry if nominated. I’m posting only because I thought it interesting that an ABQ Journal columnist would try to make an issue of this show his bias so blatantly. BTW, it doesn’t matter anyway because by the time NM gets to vote in June it will already be decided.
Wow, someone is in full panic mode!
Remember Reagan’s 11th Commandment? You might wanna look it up, gal.
Not on a high horse; just interested in facts. I’m stunned that a globalist such as Gingrich would be considered on FR. Truly am stunned. Do we support the most conservative or are we going to be like in years past and choose anyone who can beat the democrat?
btw...notice Gingrich mentioned that he would consider Palin as a VP...talk about a repeat of 2008.
No panic mode here but if you support Gingrich you should be. And I don’t remember Reagan’s 11th commandment stating anything about covering facts up just for the win.
And when addressing a fellow poster, please try to refrain from trying to diminish that poster for the benefit of your friends.
I don't understand the difference between that and a pension.
I was really struggling; OBozo - Newt, OBozo - Newt, OBozo - Newt but now my mind is clear and I really think Newt is a better choice than OBozo!
My problem with her list is that it’s too long for people to wade through.
No offense intended, but for that reason I didn’t try to read it because I wouldn’t do it justice.
A list is better if it has a few solid things rather than everything but the kitchen sink.
Just my opinion, of course.
Newt is one of sharpest tongued critics of other Republicans that there is...when he feels like letting loose.
When he wants to keep his massive baggage out of the spotlight he says, oh, we can’t attack each other.
I don’t fall for it.
I look at him with eyes wide open.
Then, I assess what I see.
Legal in Texas. I would have advised him to do the same. Smart and earned.
Unfortunately, you are the type of individual that will finish this nation off. Impressed?
If you’re impressed with those positions, then you deserve the tyranny coming.
Well I could have formatted in much of the same way as Dick & Jane was in 2nd grade, but figured that truly interested ‘adults’ could take the time to read through the list which was formatted in lines and not paragraphs. In any case, glad to read that you are not falling for some of Gingrich’s tactics.
If you don’t mind, can you tell me where the writer got his impression of Perry’s stance on Social Security?
I know Perry says it’s a Ponzi Scheme that won’t be there for young people who are forced to pay into it. And he’s absolutely right.
He has said we need to allow younger workers different options. He says those on or within a few years of drawing SS need not worry because it will be there for them.
Other than that, I wasn’t aware he had laid out a complete plan for changing the system. Has he?
The part about Perry saying the Government taxes and spends too much??
That part is true...he does say that.
Is the writer denying that the Government taxes and spends too much??
Your formatting was fine. It was the length, for me. Anyone else want to go through it, go for it.
I’m fully adult and post every day on behalf of Governor Perry and weigh in on the records of others. So I’m as interested as I can be.
To each his own, and I meant no offense.
We agree, look at Gingrich, or anyone, with eyes wide open.
But I will not fall for pure propaganda for or against someone either.
I evaluate everything and call them all as I see them.
The propaganda I’m seeing is from Romney, Gingrich, Santorum where they are clearly trying to gloss over their records and appear as constitutional conservatives.
I meant no offense only understood that you felt the post was too long to be bothered with. And that upset me because how else is the truth going to get out there? But you seem to be on top of the issues. Kudos.
Sounds like my liberal NYC sister
“They should not be allowed to make that much money!”
(Corporate CEOs - sports jocks that may only play 2-3-4 years - and many have bad injuries to live with anyway)
I said “Who will decide how much some CEO can make? A movie star making 10 times as much or insider trading multi-millionaire NAZI Pelosi?”
Perry, a former Democrat who campaigned for Al Gore, is now some kind of model conservative? I’ve seen some pretty damning lists of all his liberal policies in TX too like the Gardasil episode, land grabs, etc.
Most of your stuff against Newt is just total spin and stuff taken out-of-context. Of course we went into debt in the ‘80s. We were trying to outspend the Soviet Union! And just why do you think the stuff about Newt wanting the death penalty for drug dealers is a bad thing? That’s pure conservatism. The people who spread that poison in our country should be treated like rapists and murderers. It’s that stuff that’s helping create movements like OWS and youth that have no ambition and motivation to partake of all that capitalism has to offer.
We also all know the IRS cleared him of the ethics charge about his teaching an “improper” college course that Pelosi and others tried to attach to him. You also seem to think terrorists deserve civil rights. And you’re absolutely lying about him being paid to “halt Congress” from reforming Freddie Mac. Where’s the evidence of that? Not one person has come forward to say he lobbied them. In 2008 Newt said they should not be bailed out.
I have a feeling that if a Public School Administrator were doing the same thing, there would be some concern about the burden on the State, legal or not.
Your attempt to diminish his conservatism fails. And as far as Newt, what conservative is for global warming? He is a complete walking contradiction. His lobbying, his making his millions while being in Congress, shows he is the ultimate 'insider'. Something many seem to want to overlook. Remember, the era of Reagan is dead...just ask Newt
The guy's a lib, typical "journalist." Probably reads Huffington Post or DU.
I’ll go out on a limb here and say that EVERY public school administrator covered by these same pension rules is already doing precisely the same thing.
Why not? To do otherwise would be irresponsible and neglectful of a man’s duty to his family’s welfare. We’re all told to follow the rules, and if the rules are set up to allow us to start drawing an annuity/pension at a certain time, then there ought to be no onus on doing so. Normally, a postponement of benefits would result in higher benefits later, so this would be a decision to be taken after looking at the totality of one’s circumstances. I can’t think of a single reason that I would want my family to suffer as a result of my not taking salary benefits that I am entitled to without question.
Whether school administrator or governor, I can’t find a single thing to criticize here.
Perry is a crony capitalist. We all know he pushed the Gardasil thing because of connections to the drug companies. I refer you to this Freeper post from a Texan discussing his land grab for the Trans-Texas Corridor:
Stop lying about Newt. He was never a lobbyist. At the same time you seem to have no problem when Perry hands out political favors to lobbyists. Guess what, lobbying is also called free speech. There is a pro-life lobby just as much as there is a pro-choice lobby. Citizens are allowed to ask their government to do things. It’s when the government does things that hurt the rest of us that there’s a problem.
Science doesn’t mix with politics any more than religion mixes with politics. You cannot evaluate science based on a political bias. I can be a conservative and believe in global warming if I want to. A political party telling me what science I should or should not believe in is no different from the church telling us the world is flat. Newt spoke out in Congress against Al Gore’s cap and trade scheme and has been outspoken about developing all of our energy resources, fossil fuel and otherwise:
Newt made millions off of selling his books. No different than Palin, his books sold better because his name was well-known, but there’s nothing UNconservative about making money in the free market. For once we ought to have someone in high office smart enough to be a great and popular writer on something like two dozen books who doesn’t need anyone to ghost write them for him.
Absolutely, did you see on Drudge yesterday the story that some school employee in Philadelphia retired with a half a million dollar pension and went back to work the next day?
To see supposed conservatives hand-wave away this scam because “their guy” is doing it is disgusting. These overblown pension schemes are what’s driving government budgets into the red all over the country. It’s part of what Scott Walker and John Kasich are trying to fight the unions on. It’s a totally unrealistic and unsustainable system. Governor Perry now officially has no credibility on the issue whatsoever.
It’s not rocket science, my friend :)
Whichever TWO finish in 5th and 6th Tuesday need to tell their tear-filled heart broken fans, “adios amigos!”
And then head back to Austin and Minnesota, as the case may be.
Chill out, gal.
All good points but I don’t think Outlaw Women care about the truth. ; )
So I guess the author thinks that all the military retirees who get a second career after retirement should not have taken the money.
It strikes me that the number of statewide elected officials even in a big state like Texas is a rather small number to begin with. Then, how many of these statewide elected officials are of an age and length of service to qualify?
It does not really surprise me that there are only two that qualify. Maybe it does "look bad", and it might not play well politically, but is it wrong?
Good thing he doesn’t live in NM.
Also, to be accurate, Perry is retired from his job as a state legislator, so he isn’t “double-dipping” on that account.
Good, then tone deaf double dipping Perry won’t mind paying back 1.2 M in taxpayer funded personal security costs since he’s been on the campaign trail and he can start coughing up the rent money for that empty 600k/year mansion he isn’t living in right now while failing to govern Texas.
Hey..you know nothing about me so stop telling me what to do. I will do what is right not what you think should be done. If it’s a piece of crap, and it’s wrapped in gift wrap, it’s still a piece of shit when you open it.
Reagan was not referring to globalists and it wasn’t a blanket statement that we should keep our mouths shut just because there is an R behind the name. We’ve had just as many asshole ‘R’s contributing to the demise of this once great nation as we have had ‘D’s.
Don’t you dare tell me to chill out. YOU need to become more concerned with principles than with freakin’ letters.
Reagan's words are timeless and apply just as much today as when he was running. The traitors in this clip happen to dem but Reagan would be appalled at McCain, Graham, Brown, ,Mike Castle, Bennet, Mccowski, etc etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
I'll be damn if I sit silently by because some S.O.B. has an R by his or her name.
NO COMPROMISE! Take your 11th commandment and shove it.
YOU shut up unless you have a solution besides the ‘go along to get along’... Like hell I'll do that.
Perry has been over the 13th (THIRTEENTH) largest economy in the world. In case you haven't bothered to read (you can read can't you?) more jobs have been created in TEXAS than the entire US combined in the past 3 years while the Fuhrer has been _resident.
Perry has signed more pro-life legislation than any former a-hole politician resulting in 12 Planned Parenthood abortuaries being shut down due to lack of funding
Perry is STATES RIGHTS (a.k.a. 10th Amendment)
Perry is 2nd Amendment...no compromise...check out the dead coyote that tried to attack his dog while jogging
Perry has signed TORT reform ...a.k.a. LOSER PAYS and is now an enemy of trial lawyers (the man should have a gold star pinned to his chest because of that alone)
Gov. Rick Perry has received the Defender of Jerusalem Award, which is given to public figures who have demonstrated support and commitment to the state of Israel and its capitol, Jerusalem. (2009)
The Texas State Guard (TXSG) is one of three branches of the military forces of Texas, reporting to the Adjutant General, and under the command of the Governor. The other branches of the State Military Forces of Texas are the Texas Army National Guard, and the Texas Air National Guard.[3
Gov Perry actually served his country in the Air Force and was a Pilot.
Gov Perry is an expert, just by virtue of being in the state of Texas, in the energy industry in his state and is AGAINST cap and trade.
Gov Perry has vowed to repeal the hideous deathcare A.K.A. Obamacare that WILL kill our economy (along with our infirmed), when it's presented to him.
His family (Anita & in-laws are in the medical field...and they KNOW... the damage that socialized medicine will do to this nation)
And on top of everything else? Rick Perry could kick Barack Hussein Obama's ass from coast to coast...figuratively and literally. WHAT THE HELL ELSE DO YOU WANT IN A CANDIDATE?? Really I want to know, just what the hell else it is you people want from a Presidential candidate? You want perfection? Well even if Christ Himself were running there would be some on FR bitching about that 'love your neighbor' thing.
Newt Gingrich? Michele Bachmann? Ron Paul? Please, for God's sake! We need a PROVEN individual...And it sure as hell is not the others in the field.
Let's truly change this course...this is it ...there will be NO DO-OVERS.
This was in the news several months ago and looked at again last fall, and you are right... it IS an annuity he is drawing from.
An annuity is an insurance product which has been paid for by the investor (worker-investor), usually by which the worker has had some of their paycheck held back from their income throughout the years, those salary contributions having been placed into investments throughout those years to earn money.
Then, the earnings of that investment can be used for a life insurance benefit, a survivor’s payment, OR it can be used in retirement instead, being paid out in a lump sum or in monthly installments.
It sounds like Governor Perry chose to draw his annuity investment return throughout his lifetime instead of using it as a life insurance payout.
This is no big deal or even unethical action. If our government ever tells us we can not have the income earned through smart retirement planning investments, we are all in deep water.
Panic mode about Newt??? Tha's a hoot. Newt will have to drop out after tomorrow. He's going to come in fifth or sixth...definately bottom tier. He'll have no way and no reason to go on after that.
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