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We won't eat halal meat, say MPs and peers who reject demands to serve it at Westminster
Mail on Sunday ^ | 1/1/2012 | CHRIS HASTINGS

Posted on 01/01/2012 3:18:46 AM PST by markomalley

The Palace of Westminster has rejected demands to serve halal meat in its restaurants.

Muslim MPs and peers have been told they cannot have meat slaughtered in line with Islamic tradition because the method – slitting an animal’s throat without first stunning it – is offensive to many of their non-Muslim colleagues.

The stance has infuriated some parliamentarians who have eaten meat in the Palace’s 23 restaurants and cafes, having been assured that it was halal.

Lord Ahmed of Rotherham said: ‘I did feel misled. I think a halal option should be made available.’

In 2010, the Mail on Sunday revealed schools, hospitals and restaurants were serving halal meat to unwitting customers.

Waitrose, Marks & Spencer, Sainsbury’s, Tesco, Somerfield and the Co-op all said they stocked meat slaughtered according to Islamic tradition without letting customers know.

Fast-food chains including Domino’s Pizza, Pizza Hut, KFC, ­Nando’s and Subway are also using halal meat without ­telling customers, it was revealed.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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So I wonder how many of us are being halal meat without being told about it?
1 posted on 01/01/2012 3:18:48 AM PST by markomalley
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To: americanophile

ping


2 posted on 01/01/2012 3:20:39 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

I want eggs, I can’t afford them.


3 posted on 01/01/2012 3:30:36 AM PST by ansel12
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To: markomalley
Follow the money. 

Serving halal meat means more business and more profits for Muslims who are the halal butchers and halal meat distributors. The old line British meat distributors and their employees go into decline and people lose jobs to the muzzie throat slitters. This while Muzzies laugh at how easy it was to con the infidels into eating Sharia compliant meat

4 posted on 01/01/2012 3:39:20 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: markomalley
Fast-food chains including Domino’s Pizza, Pizza Hut, KFC, ­Nando’s and Subway are also using halal meat without ­telling customers, it was revealed.

Good God!!

5 posted on 01/01/2012 3:42:45 AM PST by Rapscallion (Do not even call him "president"...."Mister" will be more accurate.)
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To: dennisw

Exactly right.


6 posted on 01/01/2012 3:52:53 AM PST by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Rapscallion

Then I will refuse to buy from those places.


7 posted on 01/01/2012 3:57:36 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: markomalley

Lord Ahmed?? WTF??


8 posted on 01/01/2012 4:01:23 AM PST by DejaJude
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To: markomalley

MP’s and their bloody peers don’t want to eat halal, but they sure as hell don’t mind the rest of us eating it. People would be amazed if only they knew how much halal meat was being served in restaurants and sold in super markets.


9 posted on 01/01/2012 4:03:09 AM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: markomalley

Hey Lord Achmed, this is Britain, eat like a Brit, or FO back to crapastan where you can eat halal camel dung roasted goat eyeballs!


10 posted on 01/01/2012 4:05:58 AM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: dennisw

It’s like meeting California standards. Pretty soon, everybody is forced to it because it’s too expensive to produce to multiple standards.

I say give ‘em a ham sandwich and let ‘em go to Mecca if they want something else. Or find their own kosher deli.

“Lord” Ahmed? Good grief!


11 posted on 01/01/2012 4:07:13 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: yank in the UK

What is the big deal if meat is halal or not?It doesn’t make it un sanitary or make it taste any different. So they cut the animals throat instead of shooting it in the head, big deal!!


12 posted on 01/01/2012 4:21:51 AM PST by eastforker (I'll pick Rick but I still root for Newt.)
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To: eastforker
They also devote the animal to Allah, also known as Beelzebub, Marduk and other names.

But if that doesn't bother, eat up.

13 posted on 01/01/2012 4:26:01 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Rapscallion

I always get sausage on my Pizza. I didn’t know it was halal. LMAO

My dad was no Muslim , but when we killed the hogs we always slit their throats.Dad was a good butcher.We always slaughtered the hogs just before Thanksgiving.Nothing like fresh pig meat.


14 posted on 01/01/2012 4:30:38 AM PST by Venturer
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To: markomalley

Well. They could always eat s-—.


15 posted on 01/01/2012 4:35:34 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: eastforker
Here is the big deal, I DON'T WANT ISLAM LITERALLY CRAMMED DOWN MY THROAT! What will you say in 25 years? What's the big deal, it's only a burka, it's no different then any other garment, only it covers your whole head, it will provide more warmth on cold days, or it's only a prayer rug, what's the big deal, just get down on it and pray to Allah, you were going tp pray anyway, just do it on the carpet, what's the big deal?
16 posted on 01/01/2012 4:36:00 AM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: yank in the UK
People would be amazed if only they knew how much halal meat was being served in restaurants and sold in super markets.

Why would we not be hearing about it via massive PETA/ASPCA protests and other "animals are people too" sources. I would wager that there is much more meat that is claimaed to be halal than is actually being sold. Another non-issue as it tastes the same and we generally don't hang around slaughter houses which would be a turn off even with the "humane" methods of getting us out meat to the table. Non-hunters, who have never had to dress a carcass are more likely to react negatively - even the best hunters will wound an anmial, have to track it down, then kill it from up close - the animal suffers and fears more than any halal-killed animal. We are too removed from the reality of our own existence - the continuing demascualtion of Men will kill us all.

17 posted on 01/01/2012 4:36:25 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: dennisw; All

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In 2001, OBAMA SPONSORS ILLINOIS SENATE BILL 750 CREATING THE “HALAL FOOD ACT”, providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/summary/920SB0750.html

This act plays into Islamization. Here’s how it works and how Halal food plays a role. http://theobamafile.com/_terror/Islamization.htm

They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).
http://theobamafile.com/_terror/Islamization.htm

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Atlas Shrugs:
Exposure of yet more of the creeping sharia and stealth jihad advancing in the U.S. and Europe:

The latest submission to Islam comes to us from the meat industry in both Europe and the United States.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/10/pamela-geller-headlined-article-human-eventsthe-secret-selling-of-halal-meat-in-the-us.html

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18 posted on 01/01/2012 4:36:44 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: markomalley

I love it for once its not the muslims that are offended. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Wonder how the muslims feel when someone is offended by them and tells them so. :O)


19 posted on 01/01/2012 4:46:40 AM PST by goat granny
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To: markomalley
I like to buy grass-fed beef directly from local farms here in CT. A couple of them advertize that they produce their beef in accordance with halal restrictions.

I won't buy from them.

20 posted on 01/01/2012 4:48:28 AM PST by Dr. Thorne (Fall on your knees before Christ, your only salvation!)
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To: patriot08

Maybe this is why Soros is buying up all those grain elevators.


21 posted on 01/01/2012 4:50:49 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: trebb

The point is that halal is appeasing the muslimes. It is one more step to doing things their way. That is the problem and that is the point.


22 posted on 01/01/2012 4:54:03 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Dr. Thorne
From the Acts of the Council of Jerusalem (50 AD):

Acts 15:22 Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren, 23 with the following letter: "The brethren, both the apostles and the elders, to the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greeting. 24 Since we have heard that some persons from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, 25 it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the sake of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from unchastity. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell."

For the life of me, I cannot understand how any Christian can bring himself to eating meat sacrificed to the false moon god.

23 posted on 01/01/2012 4:54:37 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: yank in the UK

A burka does away with bad hair days, and saves on clothing expences but I am old and a cheapskate. :O)


24 posted on 01/01/2012 4:55:21 AM PST by goat granny
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To: markomalley

Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, seen during the debate.

25 posted on 01/01/2012 5:00:42 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

BINGO!


26 posted on 01/01/2012 5:01:51 AM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: markomalley
I think a halal option should be made available

It is available in whatever 3rd worls $#!^hole you came from you camel humping douchebag... so go back there and halal youself silly.

27 posted on 01/01/2012 5:05:24 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: markomalley

I didn’t know this:

“The conventional method used to slaughter the animal involves cutting the large arteries in the neck along with the esophagus and vertebrate trachea with one swipe of an non-serrated blade. Care must be taken that the nervous system is not damaged, as this may cause the animal to die before exsanguination has taken place. While blood is draining, the animal is not handled until it has died. If any other method is used its meat will not be halal...

...Stunning the animal with a bolt-gun, as is the standard practice in FDA-approved slaughtering houses, may cause instantaneous death. Muslims regard meat from such a slaughter to be haraam, considering such meat as carrion. It is for these reasons that there are ongoing questions and conversations within the North American Muslim community as to whether meat processed in these slaughter houses meet the standard of ‘Halal’ (as opposed to D_abi-h.ah). At center of this debate is the doubt as to whether this meat could qualify under the Allowed category of the food of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians). The first consideration being that standard slaughtering methods could cause the animal to die in a way other than slaughter (death through exsanguination), and, secondly, given that the actual slaughter may not be performed by a member of any one of the three Abrahamic religions.

Debates still rage among Muslim jurists and the general Muslim population about whether or not stunning, anaesthetics, or other forms of inducing unconsciousness in the animal prior to slaughter are permissible as per Islam. Several halal food authorities have more recently permitted the use of a recently developed fail-safe system of head-only stunning where the shock is less painful and non-fatal, and where it is possible to reverse the procedure and revive the animal after the shock...

...In the United Kingdom, the government funded but independent advisory body Farm Animal Welfare Council recommended that conventional Dabihah (along with Kashrut slaughter) without prior stunning be abolished. The FAWC chairwoman of the time, Dr Judy MacArthur Clark, said, “This is a major incision into the animal and to say that it doesn’t suffer is quite ridiculous”. According to Dr Peter Jinman, president of the British Veterinary Association, vets are “looking at what is acceptable in the moral and ethical society we live.”

From Wikipedia

That is disgusting. Doing it that way when no better way existed in one thing, doing it still is obscene.

Not too surprising, tho, for an evil religion like Islam.


28 posted on 01/01/2012 5:05:43 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Scotsman will be Free
The point is that halal is appeasing the muslimes. It is one more step to doing things their way. That is the problem and that is the point.

That is the real point, but many are also touting the cruely side of things - my post was addressed to them. I also happen to believe that many "halal" suppliers are fibbing and using more conventional slaughter methods - joke's on the muzzies.

Just for the record; do you oppose the preparation of Kosher products? I understand that 99% of the world's terrorists are Muslims, but there are still a few with the mistaken perception that they are practicing a religion with a real God instead of the god they pray to - not everyone is our enemy. How about enough halal to feed them?

29 posted on 01/01/2012 5:06:24 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: eastforker

Whats the big deal? The Christian butcher goes out of business while the muslim butcher makes lots of money.

I for one prefer to eat food which has not been dedicated to evil.

Halal means more than cutting the animals throat.


30 posted on 01/01/2012 5:08:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: trebb

Perhaps we should all tell the muzzies we’ve converted to Islam to make them happy and just worship Jesus in our homes.

The joke will be on them. /s


31 posted on 01/01/2012 5:09:24 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: markomalley


32 posted on 01/01/2012 5:17:38 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: trebb

I don’t care if some folks are against the practice simply because of the cruelty factor. The more the merrier when it comes to being against the muslimes.
The Jews aren’t trying to force everyone into becoming Jewish so I’m not concerned with how they prepare their chow.
As for muslimes, yes, every single, solitary one of them are our enemies. Make no mistake about that.


33 posted on 01/01/2012 5:20:28 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: markomalley

slitting an animal’s throat without first stunning it – is offensive to many of their non-Muslim colleagues.

But slitting the throat of a child in an honor killing, stoning women, mutilating thier genitals at age 7, lopping off heads, using children strapped with explosives, and physically and mentally abusing women is acceptable. The cult lives on and our politicians encourage and support it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCfbYkXtHuA&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL45389F285F616587


34 posted on 01/01/2012 5:21:41 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Mr Rogers
You left off one important part about

Just before the animal is sacrificed to the moon god, the butcher must utter, "Bismillah al Raḥmān Al Raḥīm" -- otherwise, it is not halal:

So I do not see how any Christian could intentionally eat halal meat.

35 posted on 01/01/2012 5:22:09 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Anyone know if kosher food is served at the restaurants? Just curious.


36 posted on 01/01/2012 5:35:04 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: markomalley

It’s not just about the way the animal is killed, it’s that the food is blessed in the name of Allah.

If anyone says grace over their food, (yes you, Christians) than you seem to take blessing food seriously. I know I do. And I don’t want to eat something that was killed in the name of Allah.


37 posted on 01/01/2012 5:41:07 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

Agreed. See post #23 for why it is offensive to Christians.

See post #35 that confirms your assertion.


38 posted on 01/01/2012 5:42:22 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: Jonty30

-——also known as Beelzebub, ———

Only by fanatic bigots


39 posted on 01/01/2012 5:51:12 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

“Halal is appeasing the muslimes...that is the problem.”

Bottom line money quote. Live by it!


40 posted on 01/01/2012 5:52:25 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: markomalley

Nice snag Mark. Acts 15: 29. Fight religion with religion.


41 posted on 01/01/2012 5:55:43 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist - VRW Conspirator)
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To: mewzilla
Just ran across this while I was looking. From June.....

Dutch vote to ban ritual animal slaughter, Jews and Muslims unite in protest

42 posted on 01/01/2012 5:57:04 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: bert

No.

Allah is not Jehovah, no matter what Muslims say.

They define themselves differently. Their respective expectations of man are completely different in the Quran and in the Bible.

There is only one other being, then Jehovah, that has also demanded worship and he has many names, of which I’ve listed only a couple.

It is not bigotry to speak truth.


43 posted on 01/01/2012 5:59:26 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: mewzilla
Still looking for the other thing, but an update from last month on my link above....

European Rabbis Urge Dutch to Reject Kosher Slaughter Ban

44 posted on 01/01/2012 6:01:05 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: Mr Rogers

Point bein’, even in the contest between man and steer the issue is not certain. - Sheriff Bell


45 posted on 01/01/2012 6:02:05 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Venturer

It’s not the fact that the animals throat is slit that most people have a problem with, although it does seem fairly inhumane. It’s the ritual part of the slaughter that I and others have a problem with. I don’t want anything to do with the cult of islam.


46 posted on 01/01/2012 6:02:36 AM PST by Smellin Salt
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To: mewzilla

What do kosher and halal have to do with each other?


47 posted on 01/01/2012 6:03:54 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: markomalley

It should be labeled, just as kosher food is.
However, refusing to serve it at all because it offends people, is stupid. They might as well not serve meat at all because it offends vegetarians.


48 posted on 01/01/2012 6:04:33 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: mewzilla
pOne last update, from a couple of weeks ago....

Holland: Senate rejects bill proposing ban of shechita, the kosher slaughter of animals, Dutch Jews relieved

But I still don't know if those restaurants at Parliament serve kosher.

49 posted on 01/01/2012 6:04:59 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: Jonty30
None of that should bother anyone. The meat should ordinarily be dead but if it's alive, like those spider crabs that walk around the table, that's just part of the ambience.

Allah, BTW, is known as Allah to Arabic-Speaking Christians. You do know there are such folks, right?

50 posted on 01/01/2012 6:05:52 AM PST by muawiyah
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