Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 1 January 2012

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[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

January 1st, 2012

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): 2012 GOP presidential candidates Rick Perry, Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): 2012 GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum; Matt Strawn, Iowa GOP chairman.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky.

THIS WEEK (ABC): 2012 GOP presidential candidates Bachmann and Paul; Gov. Terry Branstad, R-Iowa.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Ron Paul; Branstad; Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.

[Son House]

Wow. How weak is the GOP field?

It's the media polling that lacks the Conservative and TEA Party folks who are actually going to cast ballots come Hades or high water.

[snugs]

Happy New Year one and all

[TomGuy]

I don't see Rush as having endorsed anyone yet.

But, if you read between the lines he has inferred, IMHO, that the most electable and brightest conservative in the race is Newt and it's not even close.

Rush gushed for 3 days when Gingrich rose to #1 in the polls. A week later he spend another hour gushing over Gingrich's performance at the GOP debate.

One probably doesn't even have to read between the lines. :)

[altura]

I would be okay with Newt if only because I think he would be an effective candidate and if we elect enough conservatives to congress to hold his feet to the fire, he would be an okay president.

I would be less okay with Santorum or Bachmann as I don’t see them running good campaigns against Obama.

Ron Paul is not worth discussing, his crazy little following aside.

I keep forgetting Huntsman is running.

[Happy Rain]

“The Rush Limbaugh Show” 12/14/2011

Rush commenting about Newt Gingrich PRAISING the COMMUNIST SEIU union leader Andy Stern in one of his books:

“Maybe disintegrating or deteriorating is the wrong term to describe what's happening, but both these guys, ROMNEY and NEWT are being flushed out in the course of the campaign here. It's why I said yesterday, SANTORUM, BACHMAN, PERRY are all out there, and a lot of people are hoping that one of THEM, second chance, catches fire.
It was the same book where Newt said that FDR was one of the greatest American presidents!”

Rush got an email from the Newt campaign OF COURSE saying it was a mistake and Rush said later he wasn't trying to rip on Newt but the stuff was “out there.”

I never heard Rush ever jump ugly like that on Bachman Santorum or Perry.
He may have come close with Perry over his “heartless” and “racist” inferences about those who want to enforce immigration laws.

[BagCamAddict]

Holy cow, David Gregory was an ass!

[rodguy911]

Come on Tom!

You must recall me tagging Newt as 80/20 for several years now.

We passed on all the 100% candidates since there are none.

We know that Newt is a genius and will come up with brilliant ideas on the economy, energy, foreign policy and you name it!

We also know that we will have to deal with pictures of him sitting with piglosi and shaking hands with bubba. It's just who he is.!

All we can do is keep the fires lit where he sits and hope he gets it right more than not. He's still a lot better than Rhomneeeeey!

[rodguy911]

Same to you buddy and thanks for all your wisdom week after week.

[kabar]

Yep. The 2012 election has to be a referendum on Obama and his policies and record. Do we want four more years of the same? Can we survive four more years of the same?

[TomGuy]

I take it you enjoy being the glass is 1/10th empty kind of guy who always finds the silver lining has a cloud.

I have seen too many bandwagons and nominees crash and burn. Politics is a delicate game. One has to walk on eggshells while being able to slaughter the opposition kindly.

I would rather be a spectator than be a participant. That way, I can throw eggs at all of them. Where else are they gonna get the eggshells they need to tread lightly on?

:)

[Happy Rain]

Newt is a personal friend of Rush's. He and I both would choose Newt over Mitt.

But he and Levin talk about the REAL conservatives in the race—Perry Bachman and Santorum as preferable because they don't have as "progressive" a record.

[rodguy911]

If Romney got the nomination you can bet the DNC has ads showing why Romneycare is worse than Obamacare. MA hated Romney when he decided not to run again. Happy New Year

Of course, that is the Dem strategy, i.e., to focus on the Rep candidate and not on Obama and his record and policies Exactly, and I think that's what the rats want. It's one thing to have a candidate who has nothing at all to run on but its another to take his biggest screwup,obamacare, and neuter it as Romney would do.

[Diogenesis]

BagCamAddict: "Holy cow, David Gregory was an ass!"

THAT is absolutely, damn unfair .. to Equi africanus asinus,
which have FAR more honesty and integrity than David Gregory.

[kabar]

How much of that is a function of an overwhelmingly controlled Democrat state legislature versus a Rep Governor?

Currently, the MA state legislature is composed of the following: The House has 128 Democrats and 32 Republicans. The Senate has 36 Democrats, 4 Republicans.

[FreeReign]

Wow. How weak is the GOP field? So far, Palin, Trump, Romney, Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and Gingrich have managed to rise to the top of the lists, only to sink. Now Paul and Santorum are nearing the top.

Conservatives are being manipulated, by the push polls and by the trashing media.

I agree it's not a very good field. That said, the media and the polls push our candidates and then they trash them. Santorum, the new flavor of the month, will be found to be no better than the long list of candidates who preceded him. By that time the process will be complete. We will have three or four trashed candidates splitting the anti Mitt vote, and Mitt with his 30%, will take the nomination.

[rodguy911]

Yeah but you know he is. At Tampa he will still be saying "I never endorsed anyone"....The guy is probably being pushed and pulled in every direction there is by thousands until the only thing sane left to do is...

go out and sell some iced tea!!

[Diogenesis]

Why dont you REMEMBER WHO THREW Election 2008?

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The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++8 pts. days prior to September 18th, 2008.
So the RomneyTeam attacked Gov. Palin and her children to throw Election2008.

Romney for Obama in 2008

Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."

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The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.

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"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."

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"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."

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"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"

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[bray]

Some would say that being a participant earns you the right to criticize while being a spectator doesn’t.

Being in a campaign which has national implications I can tell you we have plenty of Tea Partiers who are willing to criticize but not actively do anything. They are big on meetings and short on actions. I find it very troubling.

Hiding behind the not the right candidate for me is just an excuse to stay out of the fight.

Happy New Year

[rodguy911]

You gotta remember a lot of what Rush does is preemptive strikes on the DBM and the hard left.

If he is presenting damaging stuff about one of our candidates its primarily so it will lose its punch when the drivebys try it later.Then he can say "asked and answered" to their desperate moves to take our guy down while proping up the Kenyan.

[llandres]

Despite DG sputtering and interrupting, Rick really has BHO’s number on favoring jihadist Islamic foreign policy. RS knows this subject well. Of course, so does Newt who’s voiced the same opinion.

[rodguy911]

Yep. The 2012 election has to be a referendum on Obama and his policies and record. Do we want four more years of the same? Can we survive four more years of the same?

Great stuff here! If we just remember to ask are we better off and do we want 4 more years we win they lose. A few weeks ago it was tried on DNC Dave and he folded like a cheap suit.

[bray]

I talked about the Weak Candidates yesterday:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2827090/posts

[rodguy911]

Great thread bray.

If we just stick to basics as Rush has stated so many times and many seem to forget,any one of our candidates, weak, strong or whatever the DBM description,would make an infinitely better potus than who or what we have now!!

To forget that is to forget the basics of elections.

[Alas Babylon!]

And same to you, Dear Lady snugs!

It’s GREAT to hear from you! How are you and yours?

[Happy Rain]

Rush isn't endorsing anyone—he and Levin simply tell us what they want in a Republican nominee but never tell us to vote for so and so before the primary process is finished—to do THAT would be an endorsement.

“The Rush Limbaugh Show” 12/13/2011:

“This stuff with Newt and Romney going back and forth is not necessarily all bad because we're getting educated here. (interruption) No Snerdly, it's not all bad. We got BACHMAN, SANTORUM, PERRY out there. We got some GENUINE LEGITIMATE CONSERVATIVES out there!”

I didn't read any endorsements,did you?

;)

[llandres]

I believe as you do, that the choice is that stark. That’s why we MUST stop eating our own, coalesce and all VOTE - against BHO.

[BagCamAddict]

Couldn't agree more.

Wow. I don't know how you guys do it who watch all these Sunday shows on a regular basis. I want to vomit every time I watch one of these shows. David Gregory today, with Santorum, apparently forgot he was on television, because he was literally arguing his PERSONAL opinions with Santorum. It was pathetic. But I do give Santorum major credit for keeping his cool and not stooping to Gregory's level.

These hosts are out of control with their bias and opinions.

[bray]

Snuglies, how your been; more importantly how has your bread pudding been?

Happy New Year

[altura]

Well, he gushed for 3 weeks over Cain also and hasn’t mentioned him since.

[rodguy911]

Radio messages can vary from day to day. Don't take one or two isolated comments out of context. Rush is on every side of every candidate here except Paul which he realizes is a moonbat and Hunting man who barely exists.

I think Rush and I have something in common, anyone but zero!!!

[altura]

Rush is the man. I don’t expect him to endorse. Why should he?

It was hard for him to promote dragging that pathetic old carcass over the finish line ... the last candidate we nominated.

Do hope we can find someone to get enthusiastic about this time round.

[Happy Rain]

I'll give you that FRiend—anybody but WMR and then BHO.

(natch, Nutty Paul don't count)

[kabar]

The 2008 election was unwinnable for any Rep and especially so for John McCain, the worst candidate the Reps could have chosen. He became the presumptive nominee of the party with just 33% of the vote. He was pro-amnesty (McCain-Kennedy), pro cap and trade, against drilling in ANWR, and a maverick who sided with the Dems on many issues including restrictions on political free speech as embodied in McCain-Feingold.

The country did not want a third Bush term. Bush and the Reps had become very unpopular with approval ratings in the mid 30s. The 2006 mid-terms, which saw the Reps lose control of Congress, were a harbinger of things to come. The Dems were energized and motivated. The country was heading into recession and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were becoming more unpopular. Unemployment was increasing and a recession was in process.

To say that any Rep threw the election of 2008 is pure nonsense. It was lost the day McCain was nominated. The McCain defeat would have been far worse without Palin. If Romney and his supporters were trashing Palin, they were not very effective. She emerged as a much more powerful and influentional political force as a result of the 2008 campaign.

McCain put the final nail in his campaign coffin when he suspended his campaign to come back to Congress to support TARP. When the Stupid Party nominates a maverick as its standard bearer, the result is preordained.

[rodguy911]

I think it will happen.Of those running how hard will it be to anticipate the end of a brutal reign of this regime regardless of who the new potus.

[DollyCali]

there is my sweet lassie from much too far away!

Now that you have that new computer, please check in with us now & then...Facebook, the Porch, here..?

[rodguy911]

Excellent analysis,its what happened.

[mtnwmn]

Happy New Year to you across the pond!

[ROCKLOBSTER]

nsurance companies should not be forced to insure high risk people without commensurate premiums. Bottom line.

Well, that's what Maine did, and why most of the carriers subsequently packed their bags and beat their feet.

[A'elian' nation]

The best thing about Newt is that Newt knows where the bodies are buried.

The worst thing for Newt is that the bodies know that Newt knows where they are buried. Hence his decline.

Newt would be great in educating the public were he president. Say what you will about him, he makes you think.

God bless all here. Happy New Year. Don’t know what I’d do without Free Republic and all the good people here. I truly believe we will be Obama-free by the end of 2012.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

if you read between the lines he has inferred...

I don't know if he did or not, but he IMPLIED the hell out of it.

(GPCT)

[maica]

Newt’s the sharpest knife in this drawer and would mortify BHO in public debates.

I hope voters do not vote for the best debater. Newt is intelligent and articulate, but he is not a good administrator or motivator or decision maker. They are the qualities that we need in a Chief Executive Officer of the USA.

[rodguy911]

Happy New Year snugs! We sure miss you here! Hope all is well with you and your dad.

[Bernard]

Holy cow, David Gregory was an ass!

From what I saw of the interview with Santorum, David Gregory shot past "liberal bias" right into "liberal bigotry." I wonder if the new management in North Korea is interviewing for a new media chief. David would fit right in.

[norwaypinesavage]

Whomever the republican nominee is, the media will attempt to destroy. Remember Reagan, the "Amiable dunce"? All Republican nominees will be "dumb", unless, of course, they are "evil", too. And all democrat nominees will be "brilliant".

Last election the democrats had one candidate who was certifiably insane, one is about to be jailed for illegally paying his mistress, another who had failed at "Hillary Care" and had no other accomplishments, and another so stupid that he wouldn't even release his grade school records, much less his college transcripts. Yet there were ALL "brilliant" in the eyes of the legacy media.

All candidates have flaws. The beltway cocoon will amplify the Republican flaws and ignore the democrat flaws. It seems like all you want to do is repeat the media mantra, and tear down any one who will eventually be nominated from our side.

[Son House]

And that’s why I still like Bachmann, she knows it will also take a veto proof majority in the Senate to get rid of the Health Care bill. Anything short of that and we’re stuck with anemic economic growth and the fast downward spiral of Socialism thanks to Democrats, who won’t be able to elude the shambles they leave the country in, even as they know they are getting their free pass for now. The party of the come-back-kid becomes the party of the go-away-kid, 10 years of recovery for each term, and I’m too optimistic according to my father.

[rodguy911]

Bachmann seemed to thrive for a while as many have.Quite frankly I have always been suspicious as to whether or not she has been running for VP by providing interference/blocking for Romney by going after anyone who is out front except Mitt.Much like the huckster did for McLame.
Hard to tell.

[Alas Babylon!]

100% accurate.

I also believe the last 3 years have really hurt the democrats, so we can be back in the White House next year, if the “stupid Party” does not live up to it’s nickname.

For the sake of the SCOTUS, we need to get Obama out!!!

Think about what he can do on the Court alone to further erode our Republic, even long after he is gone!

[true believer forever]

not trying to be mean,but he has man breasts. I have tried to bond with him because rush and mark like him so much, but i can’t because of the man-breast thing(s).

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

I wonder if IMTRADE would place a bet on perecentage of conservatives increasing or beginning an antipderessant regimen? ha.

[tarheelswamprat]

Checking in late. Thanks as always AB! for the thread, and Happy New Year to all!