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(California Nanny State) New Law Forces Older Kids Into Child Seats
Fox 5 San Diego ^ | January 1, 2012 | Rick Boone

Posted on 01/02/2012 9:36:11 AM PST by DogByte6RER

New Law Forces Older Kids Into Child Seats

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SAN DIEGO - A new California law that went into effect Sunday increased the age of child required to use a car seat.

The new state law indicates any child under eight years old must be in a car seat, and if the child is over eight years old and too small for an adult side seat, they also must be in that seat.

It's a change from the previous law for children under six and for those weighing less than 60 pounds.

The state insists keeping older kids in booster seats will increase their chance of surviving a crash by 45 percent. More than a million children will be impacted by the new law.

The purpose behind the law is keeping kids safe on the road.

"I'm totally for it," said Tyrica Reeves. She said if the state wants to increase the age even higher, that's okay with her.

Drivers caught violating the new law will face fines between $475 and $1000.

(Excerpt) Read more at fox5sandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; carseat; childcarseat; cronycapitalism; kalifornia; nannystate; sacramento
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This Kalifornia Nanny State Sucks!

1 posted on 01/02/2012 9:36:21 AM PST by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

Car seat manufactures are out to make more money.


2 posted on 01/02/2012 9:38:22 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature=Just Law.)
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Another good WSJ write up at

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204319004577087420326708922.html


3 posted on 01/02/2012 9:38:41 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

If Kalifornia was a human it would be locked up in a mental ward for the incurebly insane!


4 posted on 01/02/2012 9:42:57 AM PST by mongo141
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To: DogByte6RER
How many of us didn't wear seatbelts at all growing up? I didn't wear a seatbelt regularly until I started driving.
5 posted on 01/02/2012 9:42:57 AM PST by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: DogByte6RER

I’ll bet more children age 6-8 are killed by illegals in California than by not being in a booster seat.


6 posted on 01/02/2012 9:42:57 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: DogByte6RER

Notice the fines for this are out of this world high. This is all about revenue collection pure and simple. We are rapidly evolving into a police state where everything you do has the potential to generate a fine and thus revenue for the state. It’s all for the children ... or more likely the public employee unions and their fat salaries and pensions!


7 posted on 01/02/2012 9:43:11 AM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: DogByte6RER

Well if mrs Obama would allow kids to eat something other than arugula, they might not have n Korean statures. Seriously though, my petite baby girl would have been in a seat til she was nine. Sounds like a broke state needing to generate revenue so bad they will make up any excuse to ticket you or make you buy taxable items.


8 posted on 01/02/2012 9:43:52 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: DogByte6RER; Silentgypsy; TheOldLady

We didn’t need car seats when I was little. The way mom drove, we were already holding on for dear life...


9 posted on 01/02/2012 9:47:48 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: trapped_in_LA

And who will be the most affected? “The poor and the children”. It is all about revenue.

I still haven’t figured out why school buses do not require seatbelts and, now, booster seats. But, individual vehicles do.


10 posted on 01/02/2012 9:48:02 AM PST by ozaukeemom (No to Romney, no how, no way, no money, no vote)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Sure. Make ‘em wear a helmet too.


11 posted on 01/02/2012 9:48:49 AM PST by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: DogByte6RER

The minimum height is 4’9”. A few more years of shrinking and I will need a booster seat (I’m 4’11”)


12 posted on 01/02/2012 9:48:53 AM PST by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: DogByte6RER
One of the new Californicate revenue laws.

The state has no power over an innocent man.

13 posted on 01/02/2012 9:49:53 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: DogByte6RER

lol...more idiocy from the “we know what’s best for you” lunkheads.

My son is Laotian - he’s almost 6, weighs 35lbs soaking wet and is only a little over 3 feet tall. At this rate, he’d be in a booster seat until he’s 18...lol.


14 posted on 01/02/2012 9:53:36 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Go now. Run along and tell your Xerxes that he faces Free Men here...not slaves.")
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To: savagesusie

Another attempt to make children into infants.....they want to destroy the “risk” of all childhood-—to destroy the Patriarchy and men’s natural instinct which has led to a free, inventive, creative, flourishing Western Civ.

All Marxists programs are designed to not only destroy morality (all school textbooks) but to destroy independence.

Prussian school system forced onto us by Dewey and Fabian Socialists was for mass dependence (raise hand for everything)—total control of mass of kids by one “teacher”.....use of humiliation if you think “outside of the box” or take “risks”——discourages all entrepreneurship-—and prevents perseverance with constant bells and interruptions.

Key for success: Perseverance. All successful CEO’s, leaders state this. That is what is being destroyed by Sesame St.-—that need of constant interruptions and flash and noise to keep attention. Creates and conditions children into short attention spans. Schools do that too with mass interruption and time limits, etc.

We need to destroy DOE—return schools to local—parental control—like in the time of one school classrooms—or homeschool with groups of parents and churches. (John Taylor Gatto, BK Eakman)

Prussian system is to form mass conformity of one way to “think” (slaves of state)—and of course, it is the atheist/marx/hedonist/dysfunctional model-—to provide useful idiots.


15 posted on 01/02/2012 9:53:36 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature=Just Law.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Your graphic is perfect.
This is completely ridiculous. I'm sure an 8-year old wants to sit in a booster seat, for crying out loud.

Laws like this make Arizona seem very desirable. Need to wait until oldest grandson finishes high school, then I just might take the 3 grandbabies there and start over. I never thought I would say that, but sheesh this state is out of control...

16 posted on 01/02/2012 9:57:14 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: DYngbld

Less than half our cars had seat belts.


17 posted on 01/02/2012 10:04:23 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: truthkeeper

It’s damn unfortunate about California. I happen to think it’s one of the most beautiful of our states and I always wanted to relocate there. Never gonna happen now!

Happy New Year, Truthie.


18 posted on 01/02/2012 10:04:26 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: truthkeeper

Moved to Tempe Arizona from Northern Calif two years ago. Best decision I have made since marrying Mrs Clamper


19 posted on 01/02/2012 10:05:24 AM PST by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: ozaukeemom
I still haven’t figured out why school buses do not require seatbelts and, now, booster seats. But, individual vehicles do.

The law would be unenforceable. The bus driver would have to stop the bus and continuously walk back and forth between seats checking the seat belts. Even then some children would unbuckle as soon as the driver is not looking. He can't punish them for that, can he?

If then the bus is in an accident and some children are not secured in their seats, who is going to be responsible? The driver? But he can't see his passengers. Children? They can't be held responsible for their actions. Thus the law would be an empty word, free to violate with no repercussions.

One can argue that the driver of a car also can't be constantly aware of the state of seat belt latches at all times. However we don't let strangers ride in our cars; any miscommunication or intentional violation will be then between the driver and the passenger - and, unlike in the bus, next time that passenger will not be allowed into the vehicle.

20 posted on 01/02/2012 10:07:57 AM PST by Greysard
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To: DYngbld

I remember lying down in the backseat dashboard of my parent’s Plymouth, sitting on the floor of grand-dad’s station wagon, sitting in the back of the pickup truck, etc - didn’t wear a seatbelt until I was old enough to drive.


21 posted on 01/02/2012 10:10:45 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Go now. Run along and tell your Xerxes that he faces Free Men here...not slaves.")
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To: DogByte6RER

What’s next for Kalifornia, requiring kids to be in a crib until 7, to prevent them from falling out of bed?


22 posted on 01/02/2012 10:11:19 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Yes, it would break my heart. I'm 55 and this beautiful state has been my home since 1962.

Happy 2012 to you too, sweetie.

23 posted on 01/02/2012 10:11:54 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: ExCTCitizen
What’s next for Kalifornia, requiring kids to be in a crib until 7, to prevent them from falling out of bed?

Wouldn't work in my house. The 18-month old has been climbing out for over a month now...

24 posted on 01/02/2012 10:12:57 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: DogByte6RER

Insurance companies run the world.


25 posted on 01/02/2012 10:15:42 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (Ignorance is no excuse.)
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To: truthkeeper

We gave up on California 3 years ago and moved to another state. Best thing we ever did.


26 posted on 01/02/2012 10:16:22 AM PST by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: clamper1797
I've looked at Tempe and Mesa (on the internet, anyway) and both seem very nice. What about Surprise or Surprise Farms, do you know anything about that area?

No matter what, I have to have a California-style house (i.e., Spanish colonial). I know they have oodles in Phoenix but I'm hoping to move to a less-congested area, if I make the move at all.

27 posted on 01/02/2012 10:16:25 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: reaganaut

Unless there is some massive turnaround, I think a move is in my future too. And not happy about it, but honest, this is becoming intolerable. Sigh...


28 posted on 01/02/2012 10:18:17 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: reaganaut

What about midgets? Will they need to be in booster seats from now on?


29 posted on 01/02/2012 10:18:44 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: truthkeeper

The 18-month old has been climbing out for over a month now...

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I was that kind of kid. My parents just gave up, put the rails down and put beanbag chairs all around so I wouldn’t get hurt WHEN (never if) I climbed out of my crib.

Of course I also used to climb the cabinets to the top of the fridge and hide in the cupboard above it.


30 posted on 01/02/2012 10:19:31 AM PST by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: savagesusie

Collectivism’s goal is to remove the humanity from human beings and reduce them to dependent, farm animals.


31 posted on 01/02/2012 10:20:40 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: DogByte6RER

These “new” California rules mirror the existing Georgia rules.


32 posted on 01/02/2012 10:22:58 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: reaganaut
You sound like my grandson, the 18 month-old. The other day he climbed out of the crib (again), onto the changing table, over to the dresser, and onto the narrow windowsill. He was trying to make a break for it out the window.
Time to ditch the crib.
33 posted on 01/02/2012 10:23:33 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: Jack Hydrazine

What about midgets? Will they need to be in booster seats from now on?

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Probably. Unless they have driver’s licenses, then they can drive, just not ride along.


34 posted on 01/02/2012 10:24:06 AM PST by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Collectivism’s goal is to remove the humanity from human beings and reduce them to dependent, farm animals.

Some, of course, being more equal than others.

35 posted on 01/02/2012 10:24:44 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: truthkeeper

My brother is a Californian - L.A., like you, I think. He’s coming back to the East Coast as soon as he retires in one or two years. I never thought he would leave but he’s had it, too.


36 posted on 01/02/2012 10:26:34 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: savagesusie

Help me here:

What is ‘an adult side seat” ???

Are we talking about Limosines or stretch Limos???


37 posted on 01/02/2012 10:28:37 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: truthkeeper

Kalifornia would then have to make a law that you will have to strap the kid in the crib, to make sure they don’t fall. It’s for the CHILDREN!


38 posted on 01/02/2012 10:28:37 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: truthkeeper

MrR and I were both born and raised in California. We were afraid we were really going to miss it. Truth is we don’t miss it at all (except occaisonally the weather when it is -20 outside here).

My mom still winters out in CA and I drive her out, and come pick her up in the spring to drive her back. Every year, I schedule it so I have to spend less time in CA. You are right it is intolerable.


39 posted on 01/02/2012 10:30:25 AM PST by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: miss marmelstein

Yep, we’re 30 miles east of downtown on the Orange County border. Tell your brother I’m with him in spirit. (So is everyone else I know.)


40 posted on 01/02/2012 10:31:08 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: truthkeeper

LOL. Yeah, if they can escape its time for the crib to go bye-bye.

When I was about 3, we lived in a country club in Palm Springs and the house had a walk in silver closet which was my play room. My mother thought she was being a good mom and had the plastic safety plugs in the outlets. She comes in one day and finds me up on the top shelf unscrewing the outlet with a dime (safety plugs were not a problem).

Then there was the time I decided to make my own tightrope....

Seriously, I am surprised I survived childhood and that my mother didn’t strangle me.


41 posted on 01/02/2012 10:34:41 AM PST by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: truthkeeper

I truly understand your chagrin over this whole mess. To have to uproot yourself...that stinks.

My problem with my brother’s plan is that he think it’s gonna be better in New York State!


42 posted on 01/02/2012 10:34:59 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: ridesthemiles

an adult side seat = passenger seat


43 posted on 01/02/2012 10:37:32 AM PST by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: reaganaut
Truth is we don’t miss it at all (except occaisonally the weather when it is -20 outside here).

OMG, I could never do a cold state...have to stay in the Sun Belt. I'm from Detroit originally, and the day my Dad dug what he thought was his car out after a blizzard - and found out it WASN'T his car - was the day we quit Michigan.

Actually, we thought we had been brought to Paradise when we got to L.A. in 1962. You could smell the oranges in the air and every street was lined with King Palms. Gosh, it was spectacularly beautiful. Sniff..

44 posted on 01/02/2012 10:43:38 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: reaganaut

My, you were a precocious little thing, weren’t you? :-)


45 posted on 01/02/2012 10:46:12 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: truthkeeper; reaganaut

My folks have a winter camp just east of Phoenix. Queen Valley. Kinda/sorta a retirement community. Out of sight of the big town.


46 posted on 01/02/2012 10:47:50 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: reaganaut

But will will midgets with driver’s licenses have to use a booster seat while operating their car or other vehicle?


47 posted on 01/02/2012 10:48:48 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: truthkeeper

I wasn’t suggesting a cold state and LOL at your dad and the car.


48 posted on 01/02/2012 10:51:29 AM PST by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: bigheadfred

I’ll look it up on the internet. Thanks.


49 posted on 01/02/2012 10:51:52 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: DogByte6RER

Will this law apply to illegal aliens or will they be exempted?


50 posted on 01/02/2012 10:52:04 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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