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The Haditha Marines-The Squad Leader-A Final Chapter (SSgt Wuterich-Master Thread)
1-2-2012

Posted on 01/02/2012 10:28:48 AM PST by smoothsailing

January 2, 2012

The Haditha Marines-The Squad Leader-A Final Chapter

It certainly seems appropriate that the last defendant in the Haditha case is the squad leader, SSgt Frank Wuterich. Leaders take responsibility, and SSgt Wuterich has taken full responsibility for the actions of his squad in Haditha. His stance from the outset has remained clear:

"My Marines responded to the threats they faced in the manner that we all had been trained", he has steadfastly maintained. "I will bear the memory of the events of that day forever, and will always mourn the unfortunate deaths of the innocent Iraqis who were killed during our response to the attack."

As the last Marine originally charged in the deaths of Iraqis in Haditha, Iraq in 2005, SSgt Wuterich will be seated at the defense table in his general court-martial two days from now, Wednesday, January 4th. Barring last minute motions or outright dismissal of charges, jury selection will begin Wednesday or Thursday. SSgt. Wuterich will be tried by a jury of combat-experienced Marines, and the panel will include at least two Marines from the enlisted ranks.

Much has been written over the last six years about Haditha, and links to some of the most recent news articles and commentaries are included at the bottom of this post to help bring readers up to date. For older Free Republic postings, please use this link or enter the keyword Haditha in the Free Republic search engine.

The purpose of this Free Republic thread is to serve as a "Master Post" where trial news and updates can be brought together in one place for easy reference by those interested in following the proceedings as they unfold.

Freepers Smoothsailing, Red Rover, and Jazusamo will monitor the thread, post updates, and attempt to answer questions or direct readers to information sources. Jazusamo maintains the Haditha Marine Ping List. Please ask Jazusamo to be added to the ping list if you wish to be alerted to updates.

Recent News and Commentary:

MILITARY TIMES-Haditha Marine Faces Trial

Count Down to the Last Haditha Trial

MILITARY: Two high-profile cases set for Pendleton courtrooms

Remember SSgt Frank D. Wuterich: The last Haditha Marine goes on trial

Don’t rewrite Murtha’s legacy (Haditha Marines)


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KEYWORDS: defendourmarines; haditha; wuterich
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To: Semper Fi Mom
Hi Mom! Here's wishing you, Frank, and all the family the

HAPPIEST NEW YEAR OF ALL!!!

:o)

21 posted on 01/03/2012 10:04:11 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Semper Fi Mom

May God Bless You, Frank and the Family, Mom!


22 posted on 01/03/2012 10:45:14 AM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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23 posted on 01/03/2012 11:56:07 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: smoothsailing

WOW...tweets..FB...DOM...FR...so nice to see all the supporters!


24 posted on 01/03/2012 1:35:06 PM PST by lilycicero
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To: lilycicero
Hi Lily! Great to "see" you here!

WOW...tweets..FB...DOM...FR...so nice to see all the supporters!

It's wonderful, alot of good folks are pulling for Frank! :)

25 posted on 01/03/2012 1:59:38 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Good to see you Smmooooth!!!!


26 posted on 01/03/2012 7:48:46 PM PST by lilycicero
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To: All

UPDATE Via DEFEND OUR MARINES - The court martial of SSgt Wuterich will commence at Camp Pendleton with jury selection at 8:00 AM PST Thursday, January 5, 2012.


27 posted on 01/04/2012 12:05:55 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing; jazusamo; lilycicero; Girlene; Semper Fi Mom
NEWS ALERT: SOME CHARGES DISMISSED!

In motion hearings today, Judge David Jones ruled for the defense by dismissing some of the charges SSgt Frank Wuterich faces in his general court-martial.

Three counts of reckless endangerment by firing a weapon where civilian deaths occurred have been dropped.

The judge also dismissed a charge of obstruction of justice alleging that SSgt Wuterich encouraged one of his Marines to lie to investigators, according to SSgt Wuterich's defense team's website.

Since the case began in 2006, the law has changed regarding how certain charges must be alleged on a charge sheet and the government failed to properly plead those charges.

More news as we have it at Defend Our Marines. Jury selection begins tomorrow.

28 posted on 01/04/2012 8:10:36 PM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover; jazusamo

Thanks Red!

Additional Info:

Jury selection is expected to take most of Thursday. In the pool for the combat-experienced panel are seven enlisted Marines and five officers. The final size of the panel, which must be composed of members of the Marine Corps or Navy, hasn’t been determined and can vary under military law.

The judge said he expects the jury will be selected by the end of the day and opening statements will be heard early Friday, if not late Thursday.

The prosecution’s case will last about 10 days and include nearly two dozen witnesses. Many of the troops who were under Wuterich’s command that day are expected to testify.

Read more: http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/military/military-final-haditha-trial-to-get-under-way-at-camp/article_688f1c17-6472-5e4f-bb1f-eb95948e9113.html#ixzz1iYQNYdXW


29 posted on 01/04/2012 8:35:14 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: RedRover

I would press the ‘like’ button if we had one!


30 posted on 01/04/2012 9:05:50 PM PST by lilycicero (Imagine..deadly weapons carried and used at war!)
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To: lilycicero

ME TOO!


31 posted on 01/05/2012 12:16:08 AM PST by Semper Fi Mom (Mother of a Marine and proud of it! (www.WeSupport Frank.com))
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To: lilycicero; smoothsailing; jazusamo
According to the North County Times article linked above...

Before jury selection begins, [Judge LtCol David] Jones is set to rule on whether prosecutors can omit the names of the victims and just use numbers that were painted on their bodies by Marines who reviewed the death scenes shortly after the shooting stopped.

Gannon made that request on Wednesday, saying depositions from victims' family members, which he had planned to introduce to establish the identity of all the dead, will not be used.

Defense attorney Faraj objected, saying it is crucial that prosecutors identify the people who died if they are going to prosecute Wuterich for homicide.

32 posted on 01/05/2012 4:45:02 AM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; ...

UPDATE:

Wuterich Trial Begins in Ernest

Today the Defense and Government will question prospective jurors to seat a members panel in the general court-martial of SSgt Frank Wuterich. Court is scheduled to begin at 8:30 PST.

For latest updates during the trial follow Puckett & Faraj on Twitter: www.twitter.com/puckettfaraj

33 posted on 01/05/2012 8:16:26 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: RedRover; P-Marlowe; smoothsailing; jazusamo; lilycicero; Girlene; Semper Fi Mom; Ironmajor

To young Marine:

“Marine what were the ROEs in effect at that time?”

“Were you ever ordered NEVER to paraphrase the ROEs?”

“Were you ever ordered that ROEs could be communicated only verbatim without any error whatsoever?”

“Were you ever ordered to memorize the ROEs word for word without mistake or ordered only to refer to them by reading from a card EVEN when under attack or in a continuing combat situation?”


34 posted on 01/05/2012 8:27:08 AM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: xzins
Added to new ROE:

Every combat Marine must have a JAG officer, a NCIS agent, and a TIME magazine reporter present with him when engaging the enemy.

35 posted on 01/05/2012 8:37:49 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

protect yourself when you feel threatened = shoot first, ask questions later

At least to any thinking person and certainly to anyone who has ever been within striking distance of a battlefield.


36 posted on 01/05/2012 8:42:49 AM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: xzins

My Rifle

The Creed of a United States Marine

by MajorGeneral William H. Rupertus, USMC Retired

This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...
My rifle and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my rifle clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God, I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace!

37 posted on 01/05/2012 9:26:56 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing; RedRover; jazusamo

Prayers for Wuterich.

Thanks for the ongoing pings, links, and updates, gentlemen.


38 posted on 01/05/2012 9:38:02 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: smoothsailing

Great post! I loved my M16. (It was an M16A1, actually, with the “forward assist”.) I always said that someday I want to own one exactly like it. Back then they were full auto, not “burst”.


39 posted on 01/05/2012 9:45:02 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: xzins
protect yourself when you feel threatened = shoot first, ask questions later

AMEN...No realistic person can argue against that but there are many unrealistic people.

40 posted on 01/05/2012 10:47:56 AM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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