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TRENDING: Ron Paul: Santorum is 'very liberal'
CNN Politics ^ | January 2nd, 2012 | CNN Political Unit

Posted on 01/02/2012 1:14:10 PM PST by Mrs. Frogjerk

(CNN) - Ron Paul dinged rival Rick Santorum Monday for being a "very liberal" candidate, saying the former Pennsylvania senator and staunch social conservative voted for too much spending during his time in Congress.

Speaking to CNN Senior Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash before a campaign event with his son, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, the White House hopeful said his rival had taken positions counter to true conservative ideas.

I mean, have you looked at his record? Go look at his record," Paul said.

He continued: "He spends too much money. He wasn't leading the charge to slash the budgets and vote against big government."

Rand Paul added that Santorum's vote history proved he wasn't a true conservative.

"He voted to double the size of the Department of Education," Rand Paul said. "He voted to expand Medicare and add free drugs for senior citizens and he has voted for foreign aid. Those are not conservative principles. Seventy-seven percent of the American people are opposed to foreign aid and Rick Santorum has voted for it every time it's come down."

Paul also spoke in some of the strongest terms to date about the potential of a third-party bid should he fail to secure the GOP nomination.

"I have no plans in doing that," Paul said. "Tomorrow is a big day. We'll see what happens but I have no intention of doing that, no plans and no desire."

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: Kentucky; US: Pennsylvania; US: Texas
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Rick Santorum is not a liberal as far as I'm concerned. It looks like Rick's surge in the polls hit a nerve.
1 posted on 01/02/2012 1:14:18 PM PST by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

He’s my second choice and will be my first choice by the time the race gets to Michigan.


2 posted on 01/02/2012 1:16:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Yeah, Arlen Spector wasn’t liberal either who’s biggest cheerleader was Ricky.


3 posted on 01/02/2012 1:16:39 PM PST by VicVega ( GEAUX LSU TIGERS, GEAUX SAINTS)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

If Paul says you are not conservative then that means you must be pretty good by conservative standards since Paul is a leftist Jew hating mullah loving whack job...


4 posted on 01/02/2012 1:18:14 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

I kinda like Santorum and couldn’t understand why he wasn’t getting more attention. He would be better than the other choices. Not flashy enough for the media though.


5 posted on 01/02/2012 1:18:17 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Not flashy enough for the media though.

Screw em.
6 posted on 01/02/2012 1:19:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
This from a Far, Far, Left, Certifiable, Moonbat? Hey Ronnie, it's called "projection!"
7 posted on 01/02/2012 1:20:18 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: VicVega

To this day, I still don’t understand that move.


8 posted on 01/02/2012 1:20:31 PM PST by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
"He voted to double the size of the Department of Education," Rand Paul said. "He voted to expand Medicare and add free drugs for senior citizens and he has voted for foreign aid. Those are not conservative principles. Seventy-seven percent of the American people are opposed to foreign aid and Rick Santorum has voted for it every time it's come down."

Is any of this incorrect?

9 posted on 01/02/2012 1:20:31 PM PST by Roninf5-1
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
Ron Paul is still around?

I thought he jumped to the Libertine Party.

10 posted on 01/02/2012 1:21:05 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: cripplecreek

u first, be sure to wear protection


11 posted on 01/02/2012 1:21:44 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Many of us don’t.


12 posted on 01/02/2012 1:22:02 PM PST by VicVega ( GEAUX LSU TIGERS, GEAUX SAINTS)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Everyone: Ron Paul is crazy


13 posted on 01/02/2012 1:23:17 PM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: ejonesie22

How people can post such disgusting slander on this site is amazing. Don’t you anything better to do with your time? Like clean the garage?


14 posted on 01/02/2012 1:23:40 PM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: Afronaut

>>How people can post such disgusting slander on this site is amazing. Don’t you anything better to do with your time? Like clean the garage?<<

LOL kinda funny from the clown who happily declares that the surge is all a media creation on this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2827826/posts


15 posted on 01/02/2012 1:27:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk; VicVega

The word was that he used the endorsement to extract a promise of support for Roberts and Alito (Specter was a key member of the Senate Judiciary Committee who could have taken other votes with him).

Also, for better or worse, Santorum seemed to back George W. Bush mostly when called upon. This was one of those times.

The real headscratcher for me was Brownback endorsing Sebelius for HHS. Icky-poo!


16 posted on 01/02/2012 1:28:44 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Such a statement demonstrates even more lunacy on the part of Ron Paul.


17 posted on 01/02/2012 1:28:44 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Afronaut; ejonesie22
I might have tempered ejonesie22's comment, but not much to disagree with, I'd have used different terms.

I read Paul sites on occasion, hate sites on occasion, ejonesie22 is probably a crazy neocon war monger, a meat puppet. Learned that term from a Paulistinian today on FR.

When you clean your garbage afronaut, watch out for the meatpuppets, they bite.

18 posted on 01/02/2012 1:29:19 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims¬óDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

wasn’t Specter the deciding vote in the senate for the worst piece of legislation in modern American history?


19 posted on 01/02/2012 1:29:44 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
Ron Paul: Santorum is 'very liberal'


20 posted on 01/02/2012 1:31:30 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yeah I don’t get too excited one way or the other about endorsements.


21 posted on 01/02/2012 1:32:05 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Santorum thinks he is some kind of a dictator who can bomb countries without a formal declaration of war just because he is President. Liberal? Maybe but he sure isn’t conservative. He must think Congress is some kind of a potted plant. If he wants to bomb Iran, the first thing he should do is go before Congress and ask for a formal declaration of war.


22 posted on 01/02/2012 1:32:33 PM PST by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Mr Santorum may be the only choice left that I could vote for that wouldn’t make me feel like I needed a shower afterwards.
Like eveyone has said about their choice..noone is perfect so neither is Santorum.


23 posted on 01/02/2012 1:32:39 PM PST by Leep
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To: Afronaut
We have seen the articles all over, so exactly where is the slander Paulbot...
24 posted on 01/02/2012 1:33:00 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: SJackson

Has anyone been able to confirm the report that Paul converted to Islam?


25 posted on 01/02/2012 1:33:09 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Hah! On the BBC news radio breaks last night in the wee hours, Ben Smith was on yapping about Iowa and how Santorum would never win an election because he’s too conservative for the American people.


26 posted on 01/02/2012 1:33:16 PM PST by Southern Magnolia
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To: driftdiver
I kinda like Santorum and couldn’t understand why he wasn’t getting more attention

Santorum lost his home state by 18 points last time around. There is a heavy stink associated with any incumbent who loses in that kind of landslide defeat. I actually agree with Santorum on most issues and he is a solid conservative in my book, but he will never attract the kind of money needed to truly make him competitive. Few people are going to risk big money on a guy who lost his last re-election bid in such spectacular fashion. And yeah, I think you have a good point - Santorum is very plain and not flashy (I'd call it charismatic) enough for the media.

27 posted on 01/02/2012 1:33:29 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: ejonesie22
Paul is a leftist Jew hating mullah loving whack job...

To put it mildly, and more respectfully than he deserves!

Now we're beginning to see something which I had feared, and which makes me pretty sad. Mullah Paul is going to taint his son with his stench. I like Rand Paul, but have been keeping an eye on him to see how far the fruit falls from the tree.

28 posted on 01/02/2012 1:34:14 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much. We will much about that be committed.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Mrs. Frogjerk. In that case, I'm a liberal.


29 posted on 01/02/2012 1:35:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Thanks for the info.


30 posted on 01/02/2012 1:35:45 PM PST by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: SJackson

31 posted on 01/02/2012 1:36:12 PM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Paul is a fraud when it comes to spending.
He loads bills up with tons of spending when he knows they will pass, votes against them as says “see I am for cutting spending”.
Why wont he go away.


32 posted on 01/02/2012 1:36:37 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: SJackson
Iran has orbited satellites and is building a nuke. They are crazy and want my family to convert or die or just die.

I don't have any desire to temper what I say about Paul or his idiot followers.

Just sayin’...

LOL...

33 posted on 01/02/2012 1:39:36 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: cripplecreek
"LOL kinda funny from the clown who happily declares that the surge is all a media creation on this thread."

Bozo wants to know how your like your crow served? I am buying you lunch on Wednesday. We shall see how those 300 people surveys with an 8.5% margin of error pan out for Rick

34 posted on 01/02/2012 1:41:17 PM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
To this day, I still don’t understand that move.

As I recall, it was a "scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" scenario. Specter was on the Judiciary Committee at the time that Alito and Roberts were nominated. Bush called in a favor to Santorum, and asked him to support Snarlin' Arlen, who would then see to it that Alito and Roberts were approved by the Senate. Santorum was a good Republican and did his Party Leadership's bidding. This act angered Santorum's conservative base and he was thrown under the Republican bus.

If you ask me, I think Santorum was put into a politically self-defeating situation by the Republican Party, but that's just MHO...

35 posted on 01/02/2012 1:41:31 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Virginia GOP: Romney's favorite butt boys)
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To: VicVega

>>>Yeah, Arlen Spector wasn’t liberal either who’s biggest cheerleader was Ricky.

It was out of political pragmatism. Having Spector in the Senate, and on the Judiciary committee gave us Alito & Roberts on the SCOTUS.


36 posted on 01/02/2012 1:41:35 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (No Mit Sherlock. No Mit, not now, not ever. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Roninf5-1

It is probably being exaggerated, but I’m going to research it to be sure. You can spin anything to sound awful.

While I don’t agree with it if he did indeed vote this way, none of the candidates can say that they have a perfect voting record when it comes to conservative issues. None of them!


37 posted on 01/02/2012 1:42:27 PM PST by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: ejonesie22
"If Paul says you are not conservative then that means you must be pretty good by conservative standards since Paul is a leftist Jew hating mullah loving whack job..."

BINGO!!

38 posted on 01/02/2012 1:42:36 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Old Sarge

No kidding!


39 posted on 01/02/2012 1:43:24 PM PST by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Afronaut

I have some questions about Paul no one has answered. He has been very anti-Christian the last 10 years. He always takes the Muslim side and is always against Christians. In every case Muslims killed Christians, he thinks it was justified, but in any case Christians killed Muslims, they were never justified. When a Muslim shot people at a military base in Paul’s home state, Paul refused to condemn the person. I couldn’t find any record of support for Christians Paul has made in the last 10 years. If Paul were president, he would have to represent Christians, not just Muslims. He seems to be really anti-Christian.


40 posted on 01/02/2012 1:43:38 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Now I see why he wants to legalize dope.


41 posted on 01/02/2012 1:43:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Keith in Iowa

>>>Yeah, Arlen Spector wasn’t liberal either who’s biggest cheerleader was Ricky.

“It was out of political pragmatism. Having Spector in the Senate, and on the Judiciary committee gave us Alito & Roberts on the SCOTUS.”

Another bingo!


42 posted on 01/02/2012 1:44:24 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Leep

I totally agree.


43 posted on 01/02/2012 1:45:00 PM PST by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Keith in Iowa

LOL. Thune would have been the better choice if Ricky had balls. He didn’t and the voters let him know it in his re-election. Rick would have still been in the Senate. Arlen showed his true colors when he made a switch. Wonder if Arlen will support Rick. Not likely.


44 posted on 01/02/2012 1:46:31 PM PST by VicVega ( GEAUX LSU TIGERS, GEAUX SAINTS)
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To: svcw

“Paul is a fraud when it comes to spending.
He loads bills up with tons of spending when he knows they will pass, votes against them as says “see I am for cutting spending”.”

Word.


45 posted on 01/02/2012 1:46:43 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

I think the media may be behind the latest attention given to Santorum. The “surge” may be timed in order to dilute the opposition to Romney in Iowa. I just did a quick scan of this thread and I notice that everyone is fighting between Gingrich, Paul, and Santorum. Nobody is throwing rocks at Romney or even comparing Santorum to Romney.

I guess we are properly distracted and diluted. :(


46 posted on 01/02/2012 1:47:46 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Compared to Ron Paul whose newsletters show him to be farther right than John Birch, Barry Goldwater, and Ronald Reagan, everyone including Rick Santorum looks like a liberal.


47 posted on 01/02/2012 1:48:29 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Romney ruined Massachusetts. Now he wants to ruin the nation.)
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To: nickcarraway

Would he then be Ron Saul?


48 posted on 01/02/2012 1:49:02 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: svcw

Thanks, you answered the question I was itching to ask.


49 posted on 01/02/2012 1:49:40 PM PST by kanawa
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To: VicVega
Santorum had little choice, really.
He made the best deal he could make: he got Spector to promise a fair hearing, and preference for, any Conservative SCOTUS nominee.
I had to support Bob Dole, for President, since I am from Kansas.
Bob Dole is and was a great man, but he is no conservative.
Politics is a BUSINESS and decisions must be made.
If we, as conservatives, do not do a few things every now and then to cooperate with the moderates, we will not win.
Expecting a sitting officeholder to endorse AGAINST a sitting officeholder, in the same Party, in the same STATE, is too much to ask.
Had Spector WON, and if Spector was STILL in the Senate, why would Spector feel he owed conservatives anything at all?
Again.
Politics is a business.
You do what you have to do to move the ball forward.
50 posted on 01/02/2012 1:50:03 PM PST by Kansas58
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