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FINAL CURTAIN: OBAMA SIGNS IMDEFINITE DETENTION OF CITIZENS INTO LAW AS FINAL ACT OF 2011
JonathanTurley.org ^ | January 2, 2012 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 01/02/2012 5:56:39 PM PST by Yosemitest



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Kiss your liberty goodby.
Dictator Obama, with the help of backstabber John McCain, backstabber-in-training Lindsey Graham,
and terrorist Carl Levin, passed and signed a bill (S. 1867) inspired by

Please, please, PLEASE ... READ Is The US Senate Committing Treason With the NDAA Bill? By Jeanine Molloff.

1 posted on 01/02/2012 5:56:47 PM PST by Yosemitest
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2 posted on 01/02/2012 5:58:26 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

FUBO!!!


3 posted on 01/02/2012 5:59:20 PM PST by muddler (Chaos is coming..)
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To: Yosemitest

unbelievable

This should be all over every form of news media there is 24-7. Why is there so much silence? This is not a minor technicality folks. This is big. Really big.


4 posted on 01/02/2012 6:02:12 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Yosemitest

Mark


5 posted on 01/02/2012 6:02:37 PM PST by sport
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To: mamelukesabre

Most of us understad who this laws is intended for. But the judas goats tell us we have nothing to worry about, the law will only be used against “terrorists”.


6 posted on 01/02/2012 6:06:23 PM PST by sport
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To: muddler

It takes more than a president to get this crap enacted.


7 posted on 01/02/2012 6:06:24 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Yosemitest
Curious. I read O-bozo made a comment to the effect, “I could detain American Citizens, but I won't”.

Is this correct or a faux headline?

8 posted on 01/02/2012 6:07:45 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Yosemitest

“The almost complete failure of the mainstream media to cover this issue is shocking.”

Useful idiots, all.


9 posted on 01/02/2012 6:08:10 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: mamelukesabre
Why is there so much silence?

Maybe the talking heads just realized that it is THEY who are subject to arrest and indefinite detention without trial?

10 posted on 01/02/2012 6:09:45 PM PST by null and void (Day 1077 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Yosemitest

Bump


11 posted on 01/02/2012 6:09:57 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Yosemitest

Bump


12 posted on 01/02/2012 6:10:02 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Yosemitest
...The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it...

This is why we need single item bills. Congress should not be able to submit bills with many non-related items other than in an appropriations bill.

13 posted on 01/02/2012 6:10:15 PM PST by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: servantboy777
“I could detain American Citizens, but I won't” is part of the Drudge report headline. Drudge links to the story on Prison Planet. Prison Planet is unwelcome on FR...
14 posted on 01/02/2012 6:12:54 PM PST by null and void (Day 1077 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: sport

That is a lie. It would be worded differently if that was true. They intend to use this any way that pleases them.


15 posted on 01/02/2012 6:13:35 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: null and void
What? Alex Jones is a journalist.
16 posted on 01/02/2012 6:16:28 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Yosemitest

Ellen Barkin: If Obama Loses, Police State ‘Around the Corner’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2827913/posts


17 posted on 01/02/2012 6:17:16 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: muddler

So, did a Republican congress vote FOR this?


18 posted on 01/02/2012 6:17:16 PM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: servantboy777
OK, YOU post the Prison Planet article on FR.

I'd love to read it here.

Good luck with that...

19 posted on 01/02/2012 6:19:26 PM PST by null and void (Day 1077 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

The Prison Planet and Infowars websites aren’t welcome on FR because they report completely crazy and wacky stuff! Would would ever believe a guy shouting from the rooftops that a police state is coming??? Not the people at FR! Right? Right?
(crickets chirping...)


20 posted on 01/02/2012 6:22:27 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Right!


21 posted on 01/02/2012 6:24:24 PM PST by null and void (Day 1077 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: mamelukesabre
Hey, Maybe we can use this against them whenb we take over in 2013.
We can indefinitely detain and execute all of these "Fabian Socialists" and do it without a trial.
Then it could be said, they fulfilled "he shall fall himself into his own pit".
22 posted on 01/02/2012 6:24:37 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: mamelukesabre
Hey, maybe we can use this against them when we take over in 2013.
We can indefinitely detain and execute all of these "Fabian Socialists" and do it without a trial.
Then it could be said, they fulfilled "he shall fall himself into his own pit".
23 posted on 01/02/2012 6:25:23 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: null and void

Alex Jones is nothing more than a fear monger.

I mean, everythings a conspiracy with this guy.

Didn’t know there is a rabid anti-Alex thing, goin on.


24 posted on 01/02/2012 6:25:31 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Yosemitest
Anybody who thinks that George Bush, or most of the current crop of Republican presidential candidates, wouldn't have signed a similar bill is just fooling themselves.

This bill wouldn't have gotten to the president's desk if Republicans and Democrats still cared about the Constitution.

25 posted on 01/02/2012 6:27:04 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Yosemitest

You are apparently suffering from the delusion that republicans are on our side.


26 posted on 01/02/2012 6:29:30 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Yosemitest

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/cas/getdocument.action?billnumber=1540&billtype=hr&congress=112&format=html

H.R. 1540.
Congress has the power to enact this legislation pursuant to the following:
The constitutional authority on which this bill rests is the power of Congress to ``provide for the common defense,’’`raise and support armies,’’ and ``provide and maintain a navy,’’ as enumerated in Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution.

Response to Mr. McKeon and Congress:

First Amendment
Freedom of Religion, Speech, Press, Assembly, and Petition

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Second Amendment
Right to Keep and Bear Arms

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Third Amendment
No Quartering of Soldiers in Time of Peace

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Fourth Amendment
No Unreasonable Search and Seizure

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Fifth Amendment
No Unlawful Imprisonment; Double Jeopardy; Self Incrimination; Due Process

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Sixth Amendment
Right to Speedy Trial; Confronting of Witnesses

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Seventh Amendment
Right to Trial by Jury

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Eighth Amendment
No Excessive Bail; No Cruel or Unusual Punishment

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Ninth Amendment
State Reservation of Rights; Residual Rights to the People

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Tenth Amendment
Federal Reservation of Rights; Residual Rights to the State or People

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791


27 posted on 01/02/2012 6:30:16 PM PST by tumblindice (America's Founding Fathers: All Armed Conservatives)
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To: edcoil

overwhelmingly passed in both houses.


28 posted on 01/02/2012 6:30:41 PM PST by drypowder
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

exactly


29 posted on 01/02/2012 6:34:03 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
This is the second time in recent memory where R's and D's have used a Defense Authorization Bill to increase the power of Gov't and the President.

Recall, in 2007

30 posted on 01/02/2012 6:35:27 PM PST by Theoria
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To: drypowder

Will my cell have a window?


31 posted on 01/02/2012 6:39:25 PM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

Yes, overlooking the gallows.


32 posted on 01/02/2012 6:42:59 PM PST by null and void (Day 1077 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: edcoil

Yes indeed they did, but obozo signed it into law.


33 posted on 01/02/2012 6:44:23 PM PST by muddler (Chaos is coming..)
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To: Yosemitest

I have nominations for the first dozen to be detained.


34 posted on 01/02/2012 6:48:00 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: Theoria
I see that that bill allowed GWB to take over all state National Guard troops if/when he decided it was necessary.

If a state really cared about "states rights" then it would kick the National Guard out. It would then replace it with a true state militia funded entirely by state revenues.

Then if the nation were to go to war that state could have a separate vote to see if their citizens wanted their militia to join forces with the national defense forces.

The state militia could be used to protect its borders from invasion by illegals, and any unconstitutional usurpations from the feds.

Of course the Feds would win a hot war, but in this day and age of 24/7 news cycles any hot war would be preceded by a cold one that could easily be won by an underdog militia threatening to defend itself against a bloated federal army.

35 posted on 01/02/2012 6:58:36 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
'The state militia could be used to protect its borders from invasion by illegals, and any unconstitutional usurpations from the feds.'

Keep in mind, only Congress and a State has the power to engage in War. I always find that interesting. The Constitution allows for a State to defend itself.

36 posted on 01/02/2012 7:01:19 PM PST by Theoria
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To: jivin gene
Useful idiots, all.

They know exactly whats going on, I'm afraid.

37 posted on 01/02/2012 7:04:05 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Yosemitest
You do not “support our troops” by denying the principles for which they are fighting. They are not fighting to consolidate authoritarian powers in the President.

Maybe they don't know they're fighting to consolidate totalitarian powers for the President, but they are...

38 posted on 01/02/2012 7:05:42 PM PST by GOPJ (Lets make 'Corrupt Liberal Media' a household term. - - freeper Uncle Lonny)
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To: mamelukesabre

The only way to possibly get the media to say anything is if one of the lefties in the media gets “indefinite detention”. How can this possibly be the least bit Constitutional?


39 posted on 01/02/2012 7:10:25 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: edcoil

It was a bi-partisan bill, we cannot place total blame for this one on Obama. Many Republicans sold us out .

The SAupreme Court should bring this up on their own as Unconstitutional.


40 posted on 01/02/2012 7:15:09 PM PST by Venturer
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Of course the Feds would win a hot war, but in this day and age of 24/7 news cycles any hot war would be preceded by a cold one that could easily be won by an underdog militia threatening to defend itself against a bloated federal army.
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YA THINK SO DO YA?

What about this here law obama just signed???

bechya don’t got any smart answer for that!


41 posted on 01/02/2012 7:15:45 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Venturer

agree!


42 posted on 01/02/2012 7:16:26 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: hal ogen
Read Major General Charles J. Dunlap Jr.
43 posted on 01/02/2012 7:19:32 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

BUMPity bump, bump !


44 posted on 01/02/2012 7:22:31 PM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: null and void

I ran across that site today while researching another issue. Didn’t stay long. Have no desire to return.


45 posted on 01/02/2012 7:25:45 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Yosemitest

D-Day: [to Bluto] Let it go. War’s over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Nothing is over until we decide it is.


46 posted on 01/02/2012 7:37:01 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: skeeter

Notice that none of the presidential candidates mentions this new law in any of their speeches.

Are we to assume that they are all in agreement with it?


47 posted on 01/02/2012 7:42:34 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Yosemitest

Dictator Obama, indeed.

What about all those “Rethuglicans” who voted for this abomination to give Obama these dictatorial powers?

In fact, the Manchurian Candidate himself, John McPain, co-sponsored this monstrosity.

I don’t hear any of them backing away, apologizing, or calling for repeal.... Does anyone else?


48 posted on 01/02/2012 7:44:01 PM PST by man_in_tx (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!)
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To: 353FMG
There's a helluvalot they aren't saying. I suspect they don't want to stake out any positions that'll come back to haunt them should they win.

Damn discouraging.

49 posted on 01/02/2012 7:44:18 PM PST by skeeter
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To: mamelukesabre

I did a Google search and ABC news is the only MSM report I saw, on page 5, after about 50 non-MSM reports.

Thing is, the left is hopping mad, especially at DU.


50 posted on 01/02/2012 7:49:39 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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