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Newt Gingrich: 'I feel Romney-boated'
AP ^ | January 1, 2012 | Shannon McCafferrey

Posted on 01/02/2012 8:06:07 PM PST by Mariner

MARSHALLTOWN, Iowa (AP) - Struggling to reverse a slide in his standing, Republican presidential contender Newt Gingrich said Sunday he'd been "Romney-boated" in Iowa and suggested his GOP rival would buy the presidency if he could.

The sharp words against Mitt Romney, a multimillionaire many times over who is in strong contention to win Iowa, come two days before voters here weigh in on the Republican field. It was part of a stepped-up effort by Gingrich to contrast himself with Romney, and the candidate said he would adopt an even more aggressive strategy when the race moves to New Hampshire, the former Massachusetts governor's backyard.

Gingrich's nautical attack was a reference to a 2004 TV ad campaign by a group called the "Swiftboat Veterans for Truth" that bloodied Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry. This year, Gingrich has faced an onslaught of negative TV advertisements by a group aligned with Romney.

Asked Sunday whether he felt that he had been "swiftboated," Gingrich replied, "I feel Romney-boated."

It was his second swipe of the day at the Republican frontrunner.

Speaking to reporters after attending morning Mass at the St. Ambrose Cathedral in Des Moines, Gingrich said the amount Romney will eventually spend on his various campaigns will rival the spending of billionaire New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who has poured at least $261 million of his own money into his mayoral campaigns.

"Romney would buy the election if he could," Gingrich said.

A new Des Moines Register poll put Gingrich in fourth place, after leading the field a few weeks ago.

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Newt is learning late that negative campaigns WORK.

The denizens of Romneyland know this all too well.

Worse, it takes lots of money to be negative. Lots.

Any and every candidate that surpasses Romney in the opinion polls gets their character assassinated.

Coincidence?

I think not.

Romney is running the most negative primary in the history of the GOP and must be defeated by any means necessary.

1 posted on 01/02/2012 8:06:11 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

Romney-boat establishment types for lies!

2 posted on 01/02/2012 8:09:50 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: Mariner

Santorum is next. Funny how Willard plays it dirty every contest he’s in despite a win/lost record of a pathetic 5-17 for the magic Mormon.

Nevertheless, Newt will SOON open up a can of payback in SC & FL.


3 posted on 01/02/2012 8:13:45 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: CainConservative

I sure hope so. GO NEWT!


4 posted on 01/02/2012 8:16:01 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Mariner

Newt said sitting on the couch with Nazi was a dumb thing to do. So was trying to run a positive campaign when nobody else is reciprocating. Hopefully he has now woken up from that Kool Aid and will come out swinging.


5 posted on 01/02/2012 8:17:08 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Mariner; Halfmanhalfamazing

Actually, so-called “Swiftboating” was about exposing John Vichy Kerry and telling truth and FACTS about Kerry.

While there may be something to “one person’s negative campaigning is another person’s fact-checking” distinctions must be made between genuine information of importance and interest to voters and mere “smear” attacks (however hard to define impartially).

I vehemently reject all attempts to use the “*****-boating” expression to compare any negative campaigning with what happened in 2004.

In 2004 the country was saved from the lies of the progressive left, and that involved the “Swiftboat Veterans for Truth” exposing John Kerry.

No conservative should allow the media theme of “****-boating” to be a generic term for “unjustified negative campaigning.”


6 posted on 01/02/2012 8:19:02 PM PST by Enchante
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To: Mariner

I’m not sure comparing himself to John Kerry is a good thing for Newt Gingrich to be doing, especially since he had that disastrous “debate” where he esstentially agreed with Kerry about Global Warming and how we needed to stop it.

And is Gingrich saying he disapproved of the swift boat veteran’s pointing out John Kerry’s record? Is he telling us he thought the Swift-Boating was false?


7 posted on 01/02/2012 8:20:00 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Enchante
"I vehemently reject all attempts to use the “*****-boating” expression to compare any negative campaigning with what happened in 2004."

I agree.

Off limits.

Bad Newt.

8 posted on 01/02/2012 8:20:28 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

of course it was the reporter who framed the question that way, and Newt found it hard to resist a juicy soundbite....

but I do think it is always important for conservative candidates and speakers to think about and challenge the media “memes” such as “Swiftboating was about unfair negative attacks”


9 posted on 01/02/2012 8:24:32 PM PST by Enchante
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To: Mariner
I object strenuously to Gingrich's invocation of the Swift Boaters. The Swift Boaters were a group of Vietnam Vets who exposed the mendacity of John Kerry's false claims of heroism in the Vietnam War. Gingrich's use of the term "Romney-boated" ratifies the pejorative connotation attached to the Swift Boat Veterans by the Left-wing Media.

If the Republicans ever hope to return to power, they need to reject the definitions of terms offered them by the Left -wing Media.

But for the actions of the Swift Boat Veterans the 2004 election may well have turned out differently. In my opinion, all conservatives owe a great deal to them.



Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Principis Pacis!
10 posted on 01/02/2012 8:25:39 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa; nickcarraway
Thanks for the good steer, Nick!

Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Principis Pacis!
11 posted on 01/02/2012 8:27:40 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Newt said sitting on the couch with Nazi was a dumb thing to do.

Unlike most other politicians, he was man enough to admit he screwed up. Far be it for some FReepers to recognize this though. Their mantra will continue on until the 2016 election.

12 posted on 01/02/2012 8:27:50 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Enchante
No conservative should allow the media theme of “****-boating” to be a generic term for “unjustified negative campaigning.”

My feelings exactly.

13 posted on 01/02/2012 8:27:58 PM PST by Grut
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Yes, exactly, I think Newt really stepped in it here.

He showed himself more comfortable with the MSM ill portrayals of the 2004 campaign than with questioning it.

Granted, it’s hard to educate anyone in our sound-bite culture, but Newt prides himself on being a substance-guy and should not have accepted the “frame” of that question. He took the easy path because it served his immediate political need, when he should have objected to the term “Swiftboating”....


14 posted on 01/02/2012 8:28:28 PM PST by Enchante
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To: ConorMacNessa

I agree 100%. Newt was caught off guard, but I wish he would have clarified his comment.


15 posted on 01/02/2012 8:29:41 PM PST by KJC1
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To: ConorMacNessa
"If the Republicans ever hope to return to power, they need to reject the definitions of terms offered them by the Left -wing Media."

Well said!! Newt took the easy path of allowing the MSM to "frame" this whole topic of negative campaigning, when he should not have allowed the question to be accepted as stated.
16 posted on 01/02/2012 8:31:36 PM PST by Enchante
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To: Mariner
Last week, he was Pearl Harbored.

When Mitt isn't going after Newt, I guess Admiral Yamamoto’s grandson is.

17 posted on 01/02/2012 8:37:50 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: Mariner

If he expects to hold onto people like me who aren’t that crazy about his candidacy anyway, Newt needs to get off the pity-pot and quit whining.

Comparing himself to John Kerry in any way is not the image he wants to project.


18 posted on 01/02/2012 8:44:22 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Newt using this rhetorical device of the left, show once again he is a creature of Washington. Unless Newt is trying to say that Romney is spreading the truth about him? After all Swift Boat Veterans for Truth told the truth about Kerry.

Of course, Newt making class warfare claims like Romney is trying to buy the nomination is further evidence that his instincts are now DC instincts and he can not be trusted to be conservative.


19 posted on 01/02/2012 8:45:46 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: Mariner; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; ...

Jim O Neil and fellow SBV officers killed Kerry’s claims of being a war hero with true facts about Kerry’s ‘service’ (I sent the SBVFTers $100 myself) and Kerry could only respond to them by repeating ‘stop the lies’ not debunking any of the facts,

For the record, ‘Swift-boating’ is a liberal term made up by Democrats used to smear Jim O Neill and his fellow officers for telling the truth. Newt’s choice of words is very revealing..


20 posted on 01/02/2012 8:49:11 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Mariner
Newt Gingrich said Sunday he'd been "Romney-boated" in Iowa

Adopting lefty falsehoods and playing victim again. Somebody please remove Newt's feet from his mouth.

21 posted on 01/02/2012 9:03:41 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: sickoflibs

John not Jim O’Neill.


22 posted on 01/02/2012 9:04:55 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Get off the phone, you big dope!)
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To: sickoflibs

That would be John O’Neill.


23 posted on 01/02/2012 9:05:51 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: Mariner

If Mitt stands for anything, it’s easy for him to say he opposes anything. It’s all trash.


24 posted on 01/02/2012 9:07:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Mountain Mary
RE :"John not Jim O’Neill"

Thanks, it was > 7 years ago and I lost the Thank You card they sent me.

25 posted on 01/02/2012 9:07:57 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: calcowgirl
I have already been corrected : #25

BTW :#45

26 posted on 01/02/2012 9:11:11 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

I actually talked with John O’Neill, who I believe is the number one reason for Kerry’s defeat.
I tried his law office in Texas and got him on the phone, effusing like a school girl about how thankful we were to him and the other military heroes who exposed Lurch.
It was an interesting conversation.


27 posted on 01/02/2012 9:18:35 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Get off the phone, you big dope!)
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To: Mountain Mary
RE :"I actually talked with John O’Neill, who I believe is the number one reason for Kerry’s defeat. I tried his law office in Texas and got him on the phone, effusing like a school girl about how thankful we were to him and the other military heroes who exposed Lurch. It was an interesting conversation."

I bought and read his book on Kerry and really I looked forward to each next video that his org would post on the internet. I loved watching Kerry react to them in a panic, calling it all lies yet not willing to make the records public how he got his Purple Hearts. Kerry sure acted guilty.

Jim, eer John O Neill was the highlight of the 2004 election still fondly remembered by me.

Dan Rather didn't help Kerry either.

28 posted on 01/02/2012 9:29:32 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs
I loved watching Kerry react to them in a panic, calling it all lies yet not willing to make the records public how he got his Purple Hearts. Kerry sure acted guilty.

Recall that Newsweek had a reporter inside the Kerry campaign -- but he couldn't report anything until the election was over.

Upon being released from the embargo, the reporter remarked that the Kerry campaign had a good reason for not responding to the Swift Boat attacks: "Almost all of it was true", he said.

The reporter's explanation was never mentioned again by the media -- in Newsweek or anywhere else.

29 posted on 01/02/2012 9:39:07 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Funny Newt would use a similar expression as Kerry. Swiftboating was truth telling. The Dems and MSM used the term “swiftboating” as a negative and pejorative. In fact, it was patriotic, loyal Americans torpedoing the lies of Kerry. Newt has jumped the shark.
30 posted on 01/02/2012 9:53:46 PM PST by kabar
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To: Enchante

Actually he was asked by a reporter if he felt “Swift Boated?”

Gingrich replied, “No, Romney-boated.”


31 posted on 01/02/2012 9:54:05 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Enchante

Amen.


32 posted on 01/02/2012 9:55:06 PM PST by kabar
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To: CainConservative

I agree, Newt learned a valuable lesson, and is going to hit back hard now, and unlike Perry, Gingrich is articulate enough to destroy Romney oratorically with half his brain tied behind his back.

This is going to be fun to watch.

Go Newt!


33 posted on 01/02/2012 10:00:15 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: sickoflibs
I made multiple donations myself to the SBVFT and attended their rally in DC. The O'Neill/Corsi book, Unfit for Command exposed Kerry for the fraud he was.
34 posted on 01/02/2012 10:00:59 PM PST by kabar
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Actually he was asked by a reporter if he felt “Swift Boated?” Gingrich replied, “No, Romney-boated.”

If that is true, then Newt is a real jerk. His response should have been, the SBVFT were telling the truth about Kerry, Romney is not telling the truth about me. Newt is so inside the Beltway, he has adopted the lexicon of the MSM and the Left.

35 posted on 01/02/2012 10:06:12 PM PST by kabar
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To: CainConservative

Freddie Newt got sliced and diced in Iowa.

He will get sliced and diced in SC, as well.

His baggage, and there is plenty, is the reason he’s dropping like a rock. His excellent debating skills,
are not enough to overcome his baggage.


36 posted on 01/02/2012 10:11:39 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

Donate more $$$ to Willard for more attacks on Newt if you want, Newt is STILL winning SC, the Decider State.


37 posted on 01/02/2012 10:18:19 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Mariner

When you have a train load of dirty laundry do not acted shock when someone runs some of it up the flag poll.


38 posted on 01/02/2012 10:26:43 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: kabar
Newt is a real jerk.

This is news?

39 posted on 01/02/2012 10:34:58 PM PST by Dick Holmes
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To: Mariner
If Newt corrects every false assumption in every question by liberal reporters, he won't have time for anything else. It is not always the correct time to teach the American public how the Swift Boat Vets were the ones who were "swiftboated," using the left's definition of the term.

So, from me Newt gets a pass this time.

40 posted on 01/02/2012 10:35:56 PM PST by TChad
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To: onyx

??? yes, and so? I don’t think you can have read my posts.

I know perfectly well it was the reporter who framed the question.

I have explained why I think it’s terrible that any conservative could take up this “****-boating” theme rather than reject the premise.

A key part of *good* conservative politics is knowing how to challenge and reject media narratives which are based upon leftist assumptions.

I have explained that I think Newt took the easy path and pandered to the media.

You may not agree but it is pointless to reiterate what the reporter and Gingrich said when I am criticizing the very fact that Gingrich embraced the reporter’s “****-boating” theme.


41 posted on 01/02/2012 10:44:37 PM PST by Enchante
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To: TChad

well he gets no pass from me — “Swiftboating” is one of the great liberal media hoaxes of the past decade.

He did not have to get into a rebuttal of the question but he did not have to embrace the left’s “narrative” about “****-boating” either.

It was pandering to a very bad element in the leftist media.

Gingrich should know better.

I can excuse not taking up every issue at every opportunity (one has to make choices, of course), but I don’t excuse such pandering to dishonest media memes.


42 posted on 01/02/2012 10:48:47 PM PST by Enchante
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To: Enchante

“I can excuse not taking up every issue at every opportunity (one has to make choices, of course), but I don’t excuse such pandering to dishonest media memes.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkaKwJ9eOUU


43 posted on 01/02/2012 11:03:05 PM PST by Goldie Lurks (professional moonbat catcher)
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To: Enchante

Enchante. You got my vote on what you wrote in post 6. May you and yours have a content and healthy upcoming new year.


44 posted on 01/02/2012 11:23:51 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Cobra64
RE: "Unlike most other politicians, he was man enough to admit he screwed up. Far be it for some FReepers to recognize this though. Their mantra will continue on until the 2016 election."
Dittos, Cobra. And may you and yours have a content and healthy new year.
45 posted on 01/02/2012 11:25:43 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: sickoflibs
RE: "For the record, ‘Swift-boating’ is a liberal term made up by Democrats used to smear Jim O Neill and his fellow officers for telling the truth. Newt’s choice of words is very revealing."
Dittos, SOL. And may you and yours have a content and healthy new year.
46 posted on 01/02/2012 11:27:58 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: CainConservative

Newt uses a term that suggests that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were a bunch of liars.

Frickin’ Fat RINO Son of a Biscuit.


47 posted on 01/02/2012 11:41:58 PM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: NavVet
No, he did not.

He was asked if he was being "Swift-Boated."

"No," he replied, "I'm being Romney-Boated."

There was no slam against the SBV, who told the TRUTH. He was slamming Romney for smears and lies.

48 posted on 01/03/2012 12:15:08 AM PST by TheWriterTX (All in now for Newt Gingrich)
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To: bigbob
And the ONLY reason Newt didn't flood the airways with negative ads of his own targeting everyone else is because he had no money to do so!

Every time he gets a chance to throw out 'free' negative soundbites, he jumps on it like a fly on honey!

49 posted on 01/03/2012 1:18:01 AM PST by top 2 toe red (Not supporting a corrupt, Marxist, Socialist President makes me a racist?!? Then a racist I am!!!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Newt didn’t invoke the Swift Vets the reporter did and Newt refused to go along with it. Your agenda is showing.


50 posted on 01/03/2012 2:09:35 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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