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(Liberal) Alan Colmes: Rick Santorum took dead baby home to 'play with it'
Examiner ^ | 1/2/2012 | Joe Newby,

Posted on 01/02/2012 8:16:51 PM PST by tobyhill

Liberal talk show host Alan Colmes sunk to new a new low when he said on Fox News that former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum took his deceased baby home to 'play with it.'

Noting that the GOP has "speed-dated" every other candidate, Colmes said voters should "get a load" of what he called the "crazy things" Santorum has said and done.

"Like taking his two-hour old baby who died right after childbirth home and played with it for a couple hours so his other children would know it was real, I mean..."

At this point, Fox News contributor Rich Lowry tore into Colmes, calling his statement a "cheap shot."

Lowry lambasted Colmes for "mocking" the death of Santorum's child and said it was beneath the liberal talker, sometimes known as "Skeletor" among some conservatives

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alancolmes; appallingdems; celebrityworship; cluckfest; creepy; foxnews; iowa; partisanmediashills; pennsylvania; ricksantorum
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To: Mariner

Whom exactly are you claiming that Santorum told that ‘made it a public issue’? You sound like you’ve never heard of ‘opposition research’. If you don’t know exactly whom ‘was told’, you can’t honestly claim that Santorum made it a ‘public issue’, can you? So why don’t you drop your unfounded assumptions - you sound almost as bad as a-hole Colmes himself.


101 posted on 01/02/2012 9:03:34 PM PST by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Mariner
He made it a public issue. Why?

Who knows? Maybe he was making a point concerning the value of human life - every human life. Perhaps he didn't think baring his soul over such a personal matter would have political repurcussions down the road. Maybe he isn't aware of how disgustingly low the level of political discourse has become in this country.

I must admit as cynical as I've become that some would make an issue out of this surprises even me.

102 posted on 01/02/2012 9:04:00 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Mariner

Watching you get roasted for your sick twisted comment has been delicious.


103 posted on 01/02/2012 9:04:49 PM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Rembrandt
I don’t remember who the lead was but there was a character who was a dead ringer for Colmes....

William Fichtner?

104 posted on 01/02/2012 9:05:01 PM PST by Bullish (Recovery won't begin until Obama loses HIS job.)
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To: mojitojoe
"You may find it weird, and so may others. I won’t disagree that it seems a little weird. However... I think it took a lot of courage for them to do that. It must have been extremely painful but it shows me how much they valued the life of their son that passed away. It’s none of your business or anyone elses how they handled the death of their son. They did what they thought was right for them and their other children."

I agree with most of that, except this.

Nobody, I mean NOBODY would have know about this if Rick Santorum had not, himself, told the media about it.

Anyone can assign a value to it as he is a POTUS candidate now. They can decide if it's important or not, and whether it affects their vote.

RICK SANTORUM BROUGHT THIS INTO THE PUBLIC SQUARE.

105 posted on 01/02/2012 9:05:01 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: skeeter

Only an a-hole would even consider it a public issue.


106 posted on 01/02/2012 9:05:20 PM PST by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Mariner
Father First, Senator Second

For Rick Santorum, Politics Could Hardly Get More Personal

By Mark Leibovich

Washington Post Staff Writer

Monday, April 18, 2005; Page C01

This article is over six and a half years old AND the portion about Rick Santorum prefaced discussion regarding partial birth abortion and its horrors.

CONTEXT, people.

107 posted on 01/02/2012 9:05:21 PM PST by madison10
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To: tobyhill

Colmes should be shit canned for this one.


108 posted on 01/02/2012 9:05:26 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: ncalburt; Mariner
I think your a heartless soul who needs help .
I would delete your comment before I contact the admin .

Oh jeeze....man up a little, will ya?

Though Colme's crack about 'playing' was indeed tacky, you have to admit that taking a dead baby home is just this side of ghoulish.

I think it weird when little kids are being encouraged to lean over into a coffin to kiss Grannie goodbye, but this is beyond that.

Now you may disagree, but you ought to be able to see Mariner's point without thinking its some outrageous, out-of-bounds and 'oustable' comment.

109 posted on 01/02/2012 9:06:06 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: ncalburt
I haven't bee4n roasted.

Not a single poster has responded rationally.

110 posted on 01/02/2012 9:06:17 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: savagesusie

He was forcing that into people’s minds—”playing” with dead bodies. (Marxist twisting of words to create intentional perceptions.)
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You are exactly right. He is a sick, demented, evil man. I stopped watching Fox nearly a year ago because of Shep and others that are flaming liberals. This just reaffirms my decision that I did the right thing.


111 posted on 01/02/2012 9:07:04 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Mariner

So I guess if we lose a child at birth, we should just “shut-up” about it....yeah, sorry, my baby IS a part of my family..whether on Earth or in heaven.


112 posted on 01/02/2012 9:07:35 PM PST by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

That is great :D


Go to Hell, Alan.


113 posted on 01/02/2012 9:07:35 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Mariner

“Nobody, I mean NOBODY would have know about this if Rick Santorum had not, himself, told the media about it.”

Really? Private issues never come up? Tell it to Senator Jack Ryan. Look it up.


114 posted on 01/02/2012 9:07:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Post Toasties
"Whom exactly are you claiming that Santorum told that ‘made it a public issue’? You sound like you’ve never heard of ‘opposition research’. If you don’t know exactly whom ‘was told’, you can’t honestly claim that Santorum made it a ‘public issue’, can you? So why don’t you drop your unfounded assumptions - you sound almost as bad as a-hole Colmes himself."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61804-2005Apr17.html

Do your research before you speak on a subject you are not knowledgeable in.

115 posted on 01/02/2012 9:08:28 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

et tu Brute


116 posted on 01/02/2012 9:09:22 PM PST by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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To: Mariner

Guess the administrator agreed with the newbie. You comment was removed by the mods. Sigh up date doesn’t mean jack sh^t pal. Many zotted trolls lately have been on FR for 10 years.


117 posted on 01/02/2012 9:09:59 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: detective
Alan Colmes is known for his mean spirited cheap shots against conservatives.

Alan is the undisputed Queen of cheap-shots on Fox news.

118 posted on 01/02/2012 9:10:38 PM PST by Bullish (Recovery won't begin until Obama loses HIS job.)
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To: Rembrandt

Might it have been Howdy Doody?


119 posted on 01/02/2012 9:10:47 PM PST by punchamullah
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To: vaudine

Indeed ... you couldn’t bring the kids into the NICU and the hospital morgue isn’t the place to say goodbye. Perhaps the funeral home but as someone else posted, that’s a relatively new thing. Birth - and the occasional childbirth death - occurred at home and the family got to say their goodbyes.


120 posted on 01/02/2012 9:10:54 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("At a time like this, we can't afford the luxury of thinking!")
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To: mojitojoe; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Just which comment was removed?

I protest.

Please restore it.

121 posted on 01/02/2012 9:13:05 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

by the way, I think you owe an apology.


122 posted on 01/02/2012 9:13:22 PM PST by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Colmes just showed that he does not have the ability to even appear anything close to impartial with that hate filled comment.

Not only that, but he clearly do not have good manners and no common decency either, Fox aught to not have him on anymore, shame on him


123 posted on 01/02/2012 9:13:24 PM PST by munin (Live free or on the news earlier todayatementched the st die. Put Paul in the hall)
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To: Mariner

You miss the point. The infant was first alive and then died. This means the newborn was a living soul, deserving of dignity, loved and recieved into the family for what he was, a baby brother to the children. The funeral was in the home, on the same day that he was brought to the home, after his death at birth, and after the other children and family were able to view the little body.

Go away.


124 posted on 01/02/2012 9:14:53 PM PST by RitaOK (The higher you poll in Iowa, the more embarrassing it is for you.)
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To: coloradomomba

An apology to whom, for what?


125 posted on 01/02/2012 9:15:55 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

#27,....because it was revolting, insensitive, and ignorant.


126 posted on 01/02/2012 9:16:09 PM PST by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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To: Mariner

You haven’t given any clue why it is or should be an ‘issue’. I can hardly think of anything that is less relevant to a presidential candidate’s qualifications. You should keep in mind that pretending otherwise is venturing way into a-hole territory.


127 posted on 01/02/2012 9:16:49 PM PST by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: tobyhill
Behold pro-life versus satan's little helper.

Obama pushed the bill to kill the abortion survivor.

Obama is an Alinsky follower and Alinsky dedicated Reveille to Lucifer.

We aren't having a civil debate with such creatures--we're removing them in the manner of pest extermination or an exorcism.

Colmes has alwalys been this way; Hussein is the abomination we stipulated in 2007.


129 posted on 01/02/2012 9:17:19 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Mariner

#27, can’t you tell by looking at the post where the so called newbie told you to remove it?


130 posted on 01/02/2012 9:17:19 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Vermont Lt

This is second time I’ve read of a family taking a stillborn neonate home for time with the family. Just guessing, I think it brings the reality of the baby home to any siblings, acknowledges the baby as a member of the family, and brings some emotional closure.


131 posted on 01/02/2012 9:17:32 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: NonValueAdded

You are right. I emailed Fox and told them its way past time to cut Alan loose. I hope a few million others did also. That guy is beyond words.


132 posted on 01/02/2012 9:17:32 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: tobyhill

What is wrong with this idiot? Did he fall and hit his head?


133 posted on 01/02/2012 9:17:46 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: Post Toasties

Mariner sailed across those waters about 100 posts back.


134 posted on 01/02/2012 9:18:03 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: RitaOK

No. You go away.


135 posted on 01/02/2012 9:18:08 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: tobyhill

When my niece lost her month old baby after a failed attempt to fix her heart, we gathered in the hospital an held her, prayed, cried, comforted each other, waited for other family members to come by, talked to counselors, doctors and pastors. It took hours, and it still wasn’t enough in the sense that we still had a need to love and protect her and yet left her little body there and went home without her. Everything about it was surreal and horrid and heartbreaking.


136 posted on 01/02/2012 9:18:24 PM PST by Gritty-Kitty
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To: coloradomomba

For some people like Colmes who are trying to turn this into a public issue, being an a-hole is an aspiration.


137 posted on 01/02/2012 9:18:28 PM PST by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Mariner; coloradomomba
Not a single poster has responded rationally.

Post 59 seemed pretty rational and reasonable to me. JMHO.

138 posted on 01/02/2012 9:18:53 PM PST by wolf24
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To: tobyhill
Rick Santorum is a devout Roman Catholic and good family man. I do not know if this custom is common in the Catholic faith, but it was, as you say, common in the past particularly among the immigrant communities of eastern Europe, who make up a large part of our Pittsburgh area ethnic pie.

Colmes is a total sleezebag for ridiculing Santorum in this manner and casts his lot with the same type of lowlife who make sport of regularly ridiculing other people's religious faith on this forum and elsewhere.

139 posted on 01/02/2012 9:18:53 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: pankot

Now thats a new word for O’Reilly, and tell him WHO it means. Maybe Bill can just say, “Don’t be a COLMES”.


140 posted on 01/02/2012 9:19:39 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Mariner

To anyone who has suffered the death of a baby, for your insensity and lack of respect..As if a dead child should simply be swept under the rug and forgotten about. To me, for starters...and to my two “potatoes”, one who now runs a homeless shelter for teens in LA and the other who is a fireman.


141 posted on 01/02/2012 9:19:42 PM PST by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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To: tobyhill

What is wrong with the Liberals? If the tables were turned and a Conservative said something like this all hell would break loose.


142 posted on 01/02/2012 9:21:00 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: Mariner
"The funeral was in the home, on the same day that he was brought to the home, after his death at birth, and after the other children and family were able to view the little body." And cuddle and kiss it for hours. That's sick sh!t there, I don't care who you are.

The fact that you are taking a known a-hole's unsubstantiatedd word for most of the above tells me that the sickness is in your mind.

143 posted on 01/02/2012 9:21:04 PM PST by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: coloradomomba

God bless you. I’m sorry for your loss


144 posted on 01/02/2012 9:21:21 PM PST by kelly4c
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To: mojitojoe
Whatever post #27 was, I don't believe it to be mine.

I have looked at all my history and it appears intact.

145 posted on 01/02/2012 9:22:04 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: eddie willers

“....you have to admit that taking a dead baby home is just this side of ghoulish.”

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Perhaps not, if you consider that the dead child was thought of as being part of the Santorum family. Bringing the child home gave the other children the chance to see their dead sibling and say goodbye.

It also taught the children a lesson in respect for a dead human being — something they will carry with them for the rest of their lives. These children will not grow up as members of the “pro-choice” generation.


146 posted on 01/02/2012 9:22:10 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Mariner
Not a single poster has responded rationally.

Well sailor, since you're such a veteran here maybe it's high time you pull up anchor and chug your little tugboat over to DU harbor.

147 posted on 01/02/2012 9:22:13 PM PST by Bullish (Recovery won't begin until Obama loses HIS job.)
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To: Mariner
Not a single poster has responded rationally.

Yet it was your post that got zapped. Go figger.

148 posted on 01/02/2012 9:22:13 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Actually not. All my posts remain intact.

Imagine something else, would ya?

149 posted on 01/02/2012 9:23:18 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Bullish

You don’t get a vote in the matter.


150 posted on 01/02/2012 9:24:26 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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