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(Liberal) Alan Colmes: Rick Santorum took dead baby home to 'play with it'
Examiner ^ | 1/2/2012 | Joe Newby,

Posted on 01/02/2012 8:16:51 PM PST by tobyhill

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To: annieokie

As I say it’s been a while, but FWIW in New York the county and state both had versions of assisted living/work facilities and of course there are private ones that can be an option if insurances/family finances can swing it. There are a number of options really.

Remember Rule 1. State/County facilities are run and often staffed by/with government liberals with -—EVERYTHING-— that it implies. But the most important thing I can POSSIBLY stress is to get the records of any facility you consider. Specifically, their policies regarding staffing and background checks. I just cannot emphasize this enough.

You will most likely encounter ‘abuse’ allegations at any facility you screen. It’s the nature of the beast. The opposite of parents who throw away their disabled kids are the parents who DO pay attention but think that every instance of a cut, bruise etc is a global conspiracy to violate their child. You really gotta read between the lines on a lot of those. That said, Bad things happen and sometimes seriously so. It’s a hell of a task to differentiate between the two based on the paperwork alone. And then there’s state/fed regs that demand every stubbed toe get a CAT scan and every scratch an investigation. Sometimes you just have to follow the gut instinct. If a facility has a string of similar episodes with different ‘clients’...well, smoke/fire and all that.

All in all, If you/family can find a way to generally keep him home and do an ‘outpaitent’ kinda thing with socialization/work in a supervised facility, that’s the way to go IMO FWIW. Barring that, bring him home on weekends religiously and weekdays randomly. Involved family with ‘rational expectations’ (and I cannot possibly stress that ‘rational’ part enough) make for happy and ‘attentive’ caregiver staff, happy and properly supervised ‘children’ (of any age) and fewer ‘problems’ of the unwanted variety.


351 posted on 01/03/2012 4:58:07 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Curse you, Norm Lenhart! Im slain, crumpled in a ditch by your obvious superiority - Humblegunner)
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To: Norm Lenhart
"""All in all, If you/family can find a way to generally keep him home and do an ‘outpaitent’ kinda thing with socialization/work in a supervised facility, that’s the way to go IMO FWIW. Barring that, bring him home on weekends religiously and weekdays randomly. Involved family with ‘rational expectations’ (and I cannot possibly stress that ‘rational’ part enough) make for happy and ‘attentive’ caregiver staff, happy and properly supervised ‘children’ (of any age) and fewer ‘problems’ of the unwanted variety."""

See how blessed I am, discussing this issue with you is my new blessing, Thanks.

You can bet you boots, we will take all precautions in this. I can see the pain in his parents faces when we discuss it, but we must face the facts.

I would have no problem with him coming to live with me. The only problem is education, he is still in mainstream school, but after that is the what??? Can't let him idle, and I would not be able to assist much. He does need to be with others his age on a daily basis and do some type of work.

Frankly, I really don't see any type of institution for him, more like live at home and take him for some sort day out activity with others or work. I know of some private places, we will look into. He knows every xbox, wifi system there is and how to hook it up, and usually beats us all. Smarter than I am, lol.

Believe me, we will do what is BEST for that boy, and I rue the day if someone were to mess him up. His brother,6ft.225 lbs., on a short fuse when it comes to his brother. lol.

I am bookmarking this thread for refrence back to your posts.

352 posted on 01/03/2012 5:15:19 PM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

You haZ Freepmail ;)


353 posted on 01/03/2012 6:18:53 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Curse you, Norm Lenhart! Im slain, crumpled in a ditch by your obvious superiority - Humblegunner)
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To: Mariner

I find it telling that you had no balls to respond to my post.


354 posted on 01/04/2012 6:39:20 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

And what exactly was your post?


355 posted on 01/04/2012 6:52:21 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Post #166.


356 posted on 01/04/2012 7:24:02 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

Are you an elderly woman?


357 posted on 01/04/2012 8:50:56 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: tobyhill

Not a Santorum fan, but this is over the top and under the sewer.

Never saw Colmes as anything but a pile of excrement that was used to make Hannity look intelligent.


358 posted on 01/04/2012 8:58:36 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Lazamataz; Mariner

The “overnight” you are referring to actually happened in the hospital. The baby died, and the Santorums stayed with him in their hospital room until the morning.
That is when they took him to show the family prior to the funeral.

When my daughter was declared brain dead, we brought her siblings along with other family members into her room to say goodbye.
We spent the night with her.
There was cuddling, holding, and crying of course.

Was this creepy and sick? Are we necrophiles?


359 posted on 01/04/2012 9:15:24 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife
You OBVIOUSLY didn't read the Washington Post interview from 1995 and see the direct quotes from Rick Santorum.

I posted it earlier in this very long thread and no longer have energy to argue the point.

360 posted on 01/04/2012 9:25:52 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I have read Rick’s account of the events.


361 posted on 01/04/2012 9:40:43 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Mariner

Sweet! Mariner has had to eat his words! NO BALLS!


362 posted on 01/05/2012 6:47:15 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Mariner

Sweet! Mariner has had to eat his words! NO BALLS!


363 posted on 01/05/2012 6:47:15 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind; Admin Moderator
"Sweet! Mariner has had to eat his words! NO BALLS!"

These types of statements are common for folks who have never had to back them up for real. Typical for armchair warriors.

Alas, I'll not argue with you.

Go ahead and make that statement with every post and comment you make on Free Republic. Make it your tagline. You have my permission...in fact, I encourage it.

You'll then see how many folks agree with you.

You could even follow me around and post it after every post I make.

Yeah, I like that idea.

364 posted on 01/05/2012 7:12:58 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I can let it rest here. You must, as well, because you cannot escape your hypocrisy throughout this whole thread.


365 posted on 01/05/2012 7:49:56 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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