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2012 Iowa Caucus Live Thread
Iowa GOP ^ | 1.3.12 | Free Vulcan

Posted on 01/03/2012 8:08:24 AM PST by Free Vulcan

Live thread to cover today's GOP caucus. News, predictions, opinions, totals, and the like.

Will be heading out about 4 pm or so to get our site ready and do a final review with the precinct chairs. I expect it to be bigger than 2008 with very heavy turnout and we are preparing for that.

We are also ready for disruptions. They simply won't be tolerated. The state party sent us a memo saying if there's any trouble call the cops immediately. Anyone trying to cause problems is going to get a rude awakening.

My predictions of the outcome are a narrow field with about a 10 point spread for the top five with Bachmann far behind in single digits:

Santorum - 24 Romney - 22 Paul - 20 Perry - 17 Gingrich - 14 Bachmann - 4 The Rest - 1

Think things are still in flux and many won't decide till right to the wire, so I'm not terribly confident of any predictions.


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To: cornfedcowboy

5th and 6th place candidates are dead in the water tonight, I’m afraid..

http://iowacaucus.com/results/

Go Santorum 24%+!!! Good for 1st
Go Newt 14%+!!! Good enough for 4th

Perry 9% and Michele 6% drop out Wednesday :(


401 posted on 01/03/2012 6:08:48 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: nutmeg

I don’t know Nutmeg I hearing more stuff on Twitter news

cnnbrk CNN Breaking News
Next wave of Iowa entrance poll results: Paul 24%, Romney 23%, Santorum 19%, Gingrich 13%. #CNNElections http://on.cnn.com/xJwA8o


402 posted on 01/03/2012 6:09:11 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: flintsilver7

As one of said young people, I agree. Many people my age are politically incompetent and largely amoral.


403 posted on 01/03/2012 6:09:27 PM PST by Cato in PA (Hope and pray for the Santorum surge!)
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To: flintsilver7

That’s one way of seeing it.

Another way of looking at it is that old people support foreign wars (1) who (like Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum) are not going to volunteer to fight those wars and (2) don’t expect to pay for those wars.

OTOH, the people who are being saddled with foreign wars, who are being saddled with the national debt, who are being saddled with illegal aliens, who are being saddled with the welfare state, who are being saddled with TSA, who are being saddled with the terrible economy which is caused by taking money out of the private sector to be spent on various forms of welfare like “No Child Left Behind” ... those people are not happy with the status quo.

Those people are voting for a guy who would completely abolish Social Security and Medicare and the EBT card and TANF welfare and Medicaid.


404 posted on 01/03/2012 6:09:51 PM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: CedarDave

Oh how I would love that to be the result!!

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Care to explain why you’d love it that RUPaul come in 2nd ?
And Romney 3rd ?

curious..........


405 posted on 01/03/2012 6:10:05 PM PST by simplesimon (You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own "facts"...........)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Ron Paul leading in three countys on this site:

http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/data/iowa-caucus/results/


406 posted on 01/03/2012 6:10:26 PM PST by BagCamAddict (OMG = Obama Must Go. Let's stay focused on the goal.)
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To: katiedidit1

I don’t get it either. Heard earlier that last election Iowa media blasted him as a faux conservative, anti-conservative, barely Republican, but that DID NOT happen this time. Curiously enough.

I figure Romney must have the money to shut some people up this go. What other explanation can I come up with?
Yikes!


407 posted on 01/03/2012 6:10:43 PM PST by RitaOK (The higher you poll in Iowa, the more embarrassing it is for you.)
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To: BenKenobi

DAMMIT!!! We are retired after YEARS of paying through the nose for YOUR grandparent’s SOCIAL SECURITY and MEDICARE for YEARS, and YEARS, and YEARS . . THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of dollars for taxes to fund YOUR government EDUCATION, and your parent’s government EDUCATION.

We did NOT complain then about all those lovely THOUSANDS of dollars the government TOOK from our paychecks in order to bankroll you and YOUR forebears’ ENTITLEMENTS.

So, SHUT UP and MAN UP LIKE WE DID!!!


408 posted on 01/03/2012 6:10:48 PM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Free Vulcan; All
Quick scan of the counties — Romney has won only two counties. Both are river counties, old “rustbelt” type places. Santorum, amazingly, has won the county that includes Burlington, Iowa. Paul is mostly in college town communities, no surprise.
409 posted on 01/03/2012 6:11:02 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: not2worry

Horrible. I feel for you. Ads are sickening.

I am praying mightily for Newt Gingrich to win in Florida.


410 posted on 01/03/2012 6:11:46 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: onyx

You are right about Iowa being nothing. Now that Bachmann is dead last she will really vie for a position with Romney. Watch out Newt and Perry. The media wants us to believe that after Iowa and NH...it’s over for the other candidates...but Newt is going to come back in the south. Shame about Virginia....Romney gloating like the cat that swallowed the canary. God help me..I detest him now more than ever after the Iowa debackle and dirty tricks. DISGUSTING MAN


411 posted on 01/03/2012 6:11:59 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: CainConservative

Hope you’re wrong, don’t want to see Perry drop out.


412 posted on 01/03/2012 6:12:23 PM PST by Kenny
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To: darrellmaurina

If Bachmann continues to poll low, you would think her support will go to Santorum if they are trying to switch to the winning horse.


413 posted on 01/03/2012 6:12:51 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Qwackertoo

GREAT!! NO FOX tonight! I agree with another poster who said on site news is always better done by CNN, not that I am watching them either, but FOX needs a bruise from the troops.


414 posted on 01/03/2012 6:13:12 PM PST by RitaOK (The higher you poll in Iowa, the more embarrassing it is for you.)
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To: Proud2BeRight

The military does absolutely everything BUT “provide for the common defense.” It provides for the “common defense” of South Korea and Lithuania and France, but not Alabama, Arizona, and Texas which have been invaded by millions of illegal aliens.

Hey, if you want to “provide for the common defense,” you can start by BANNING Muslim terrorists from coming here legally! Until then, no one who talks about the need to “provide for the common defense” can be taken seriously.

How did the 9/11 terrorists come here? They walked through the front door. Just like the millions of illegal aliens in this country who overstayed their visas.


415 posted on 01/03/2012 6:13:23 PM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: WilliamHouston

no you got it wrong, I’m young and served in battle and I think Paul is a nut.
He is more liberal than liberals on social and certain international , military issues, hell the man said he would get rid of the CIA, FBI in the 2008 debate and obviously some young think making all drugs legal, having sex with anything and marrying anything is top of their list.

Again Paul should run on the libertarian ticket to spew his crap and his supporters the nutters need to understand sites like this and the republican platform is not a libertarian liberal one.

Of course those people only are wanting to get high and have sex with a donkey or their sibling


416 posted on 01/03/2012 6:13:30 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: simplesimon
Care to explain why you’d love it that RUPaul come in 2nd ? And Romney 3rd ?
curious..........

It's pretty obvious, isn't it? I'd like to see Romney be diminished by both a real conservative (Santorum) and nutcase RuPaul.

417 posted on 01/03/2012 6:13:42 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: onyx

“I am praying mightily for Newt Gingrich to win in Florida.”

If Newt wins South Carolina he has a good chance in Florida. GO NEWT!


418 posted on 01/03/2012 6:13:42 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Free Vulcan

Just returned from my causus, Cedar Rapids, Linn County (CR 30).

Just as I predicted, big numbers for Romney. 195 votes, here are the counts and rough percents:

Romney - 79, about 39 percent
Paul - 40, about 20 percent
Santorum - 38, about 19 percent
Perry - 18, about 9 percent
Newt - 14, about 7 percent
Huntsman - 4, about 2 percent
Bachmann - 1...about 1/2 a percent...

There was 1 other vote, I didn’t catch it...sorry.

Only prepared speeches were Paul and Santorum, another guy spoke for Newt when no one else had signed up. No other candidate had a representative.

Last time around, my former neighbor (and, at one point, maybe still, the head mormon dude in the area) spoke for Mitt. He was there tonight, but didn’t speak for him.

But he had the troops out in force...(and I know ‘head mormon dude’ isn’t the correct title, no offense intended, I just don’t remember his title).


419 posted on 01/03/2012 6:14:29 PM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Pappy Smear
My guess from my precinct___They are counting votes now. Paul santorum perry newt romney bachmann. I base that on stickers signs and people gathering together.

Just back from my caucus, I didn't stick around for the platform discussion. So you know my precinct, in 2000 it went about 45% for Forbes, 25% for Bush, and the rest, the rest. In 08, I think Huckabee got 65 or so votes, Romney and Paul tied with about 28 votes, and the rest the rest.

Smaller turnout tonite, but my above guess while I was watching was pretty close.

My precinct quantity of votes: Paul 36, Santorum 35, Newt 18, Perry 16, Mittens 12, Bachmann 5, Huntsman 5.

420 posted on 01/03/2012 6:15:06 PM PST by Pappy Smear (Support the presidency, end the policies.)
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