Skip to comments.Rick Santorum Can Win Iowa Caucuses
Posted on 01/03/2012 8:43:09 AM PST by NoRedTape
"..........And this, as much as anything else, is why Rick Santoruma man who was stuck at 4 percent in the local polls as recently as one month ago, and is still stuck at 4 percent nationallyis going to win the Iowa caucuses on Tuesday........
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I trust Santorum but can he beat Obama? This is the big question.
Yeah great judgement.
Sponsors award for Jerry Sandusky (claims he didn’t know he was a kiddie raper perv).
Gives Ensign a heads up that his mistress husband was going public. Wonder if that was before or after Ensign paid them big bucks.
Isn’t it amazing how shallow people are when picking a PRESIDENT. You would think Americans would want to know everything about their candidates.
Yeah just the kind of guy that we need making decisions in the WH.
If Santorum wins, it is a MAJOR spanking for ROMNEY
(no one dares mention that aspect of it)
So... GO TO IT IOWANS~!!
Is all that true really?
Darn.... ANOTHER candidate who is not perfect.. dammit.
Ok on to the next one...
I am sure there must be one person somewhere who has never made a mistake in their life, or had someone else around them make a mistake that they didnt have the foresight to see...
we’ll find him and run him against Obama and everything will be just peachy.
ROFLOL, grasping at straws aren’t you.
do you wanna bet marty supports newt? newt gets excuses but every one else gets blasted around here
"Claims?" What politician in his right mind would sponsor an award for someone if he actually did know the guy was a kiddie raper perv?
PERRY is the only candidate that is honest and above board.
Has he made some mistakes sure. But NOT on his CORE beliefs.
Just like Reagan, he has a core, love him or hate him at least your KNOW what he stands for and how he will lead.
Care to explain how Santorum would've known?
Ex-Sen. Rick Santorum, running for the Republican presidential nomination, in 2002 nominated former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky for a Congressional Angels in Adoption Award.
The nomination by Santorum was made in the same year that a Penn State graduate assistant spotted Sandusky allegedly performing a sex act with a young boy in a shower at the universitys athletic complex. He reported the incident a day later to head football coach Joe Paterno.
Its philosophy is simple: It is easier to develop a child than to rehabilitate an adult, read the citation from Santorum in an awards dinner program dated Sept. 24, 2002.
The citation was referring to The Second Mile, a charity launched by Sandusky in 1977 to serve disadvantaged children. It was first reported Wednesday by the Philadelphia Inquirer.
Sandusky has since been charged with multiple counts of child abuse. The universitys athletic director and a vice president have been charged with perjury. Paterno, 84, coach for more than four decades, announced on Wednesday that he will retire at the end of the year.
Santorum is running for president as a social conservative and family values champion. He is a strong opponent of abortion, critic of contraception, and outspoken foe of such gay and lesbian causes as marriage equality.
Santorum, a 1980 Penn State graduate, defended Paterno in an ABC News interview, saying he hoped the spreading sex-abuse scandal would not damage a coach who served in such distinction for all these years.
The Angels in Adoption awards program is sponsored each year by the non-profit Congressional Coalition on Adoption Institute.
Wonder if you're just grasping at straws.
we can call it that.
But that is the stuff the Obama people have and likely Romney does too.
It will come out. May be unfair or out of context, but that is how the war is played. Santorum is not ready.
Can't have that... defeating Obama would offend muslims... and Marty.
“I trust Santorum but can he beat Obama?”
Very doubtful. Perry could however.
You rehashed all the facts of the Sandusky scandal, all of which are very well known now. However, you failed to answer my question, which, to refresh your memory, was:
What politician in his right mind would sponsor an award for someone if he actually did know the guy was a kiddie raper perv?
In your mind, it seems that many, many people do not agree with you.
Excuse me. 2002 was when the AC reported the Shower rape to Penn State. Paterno etc etc. You mean no one gave him a heads up on this problem? I find that HARD to believe. Unless ofcourse all of them are DEMS. Which could be true.
Wonderful thing we now have in this country, guilt by association.
He very well could win the Iowa caucuses. What does he win after that?
“Sponsors award for Jerry Sandusky (claims he didnt know he was a kiddie raper perv).”
You mean he does NOT have ESP? The dirty bastard!
I am a Newt Supporter too- but I would gladly vote for Santorum over Romney
I am just gettign sick of our guys always having to explain themselves ESPEICALLY for something they had no control over (like a racist comment painted on a rock years before they owned a piece of property)
I wish they would tell the media “yeah- I made mistakes in my life- haven’t you? deal with it” and then refuse to talk to that reporter until they get off the topic
I think our best ticket is Newt/Cain right now. It would make libtards’ heads explode.
It’s strange that Perry is so great, but many of his supporters can’t get out of the gutter.
So, what you’re saying is that Santorum KNEW that Sandusky was a kiddie rapist perv, but decided to sponsor an award for him anyway, despite Santorum’s image as a pro-life, family values guy?
Since when is the truth the gutter.
You must have me confused with a Cain-Paul supporter.
Just because you all didn’t do your homework is not my problem it’s your problem.
The ONLY reason Santorum is up is due to the fact that the TRUTH came out about NEWT.
So now the lemmings are all following Santorum.
Santorum’s rise was so sudden, and so late in the process, that he simply hasn’t been “vetted” yet, i.e., he hasn’t had to endure the anal exam that all of the previous front runners did. But he’ll still get vetted, in front of the S. Carolina primary, at which time he’s as likely to flame out as the rest were.
I agree with you on Perry. He’s got the ground game and the organization to keep gaining ground after his weak start, and he’s clearly a conservative choice, better than Gingrich or Paul. Santorum lost his last election badly, whereas Perry has always won in Texas.
The problem right now is that Iowa caucus goers have this “wanna go with a winner” mentality, which is leading to votes for Romney and Santorum. Romney can’t win enough GOP delegates to be nominated, and Santorum is unlikely to go the distance. Paul is unelectable, if for no other reason than his age (and there are plenty of other reasons besides) and Bachmann is likely to give up soon.
This will leave Gingrich and Perry fighting it out, and my money would be on Perry given his success at winning elections, his organization and money-raising ability, and his conservative message. At least that’s how I see it.
>>I think our best ticket is Newt/Cain right now. It would make libtards heads explode.<<
This may not be our best ticket (or it might), but you want to see liberal heads explode, run Perry/Palin at them.
NO this is the kind of stuff these politicians do to make themselves appear like the ( whatever the issue) true believer. I’m sure he is a great supporter of Adoptions over the alternative.
What I am saying, I wish they would take just a minute to check if the person is REALLY worthy. Not just what they hear in the media.
Penn State was/is? a ceasspool of silence. That certainly is NOT his fault.
On FOX last night I think it was Shep was interviewing “Pat (Somebody) who is a former Democrat Campaign manager and Fox News Consultant. I think he looks a little like Sigmund Freud. Dem or not, he’s a pretty savvy chap.
He remarked that Santorum is probably the “least flawed” of any of the Republican primary contenders and thereby might be about as good as we are apt to get.
IMHO he’s on to something.
I don’t think very many of us here would have called Sandusky a “Perv” the day before the story broke on the MSM.
A lot of our idols are found to have feet of clay quite by surprise. Any of our Candidates could be one of them at any time - and no doubt the Democrat political machine is waiting in the wings with a pickle barrel full of “surprises” for most if not all of them.
Remember Hillary’s personal stack of FBI files; she never gave them back, did she? Do they still have access to the World’s top intelligence / spy agencies to do their bidding?
If they can’t find a scandal, are they capable of manufacturing one?
Count on it.
Ask Herman Cain.
I trust Santorum but can he beat Obama? This is the big question.
Yes because conservatives won’t stay home like they will for Romney, Newt and Paul.
Bwahh! That boy comes across as about as sharp as a bowling ball.
If Palin had gotten in at the right time she would be winning by a landslide by now, and Obama would be pooping in his Dr. Dentons, dumping Biden, and begging HilLIARy to join him.
But its too late for that, and I don’t see Sarah playing second fiddle ever again.
The MSM will be looking for dirt on Santorum tomorrow to make sure Mittens gets nominated.
And they’re going to get plenty of Freeper help.
Conservatives are setting up the circular firing squad.
Oh brother. Perry has had gay relations with other guys. I have heard those CLAIMS many times.
I’m not saying anything that is out of left field.
Santorum is coming off a humiliating loss in Pa against a sub par Democrat. Obviously he isn’t superman, and Democrats/Romney have likely all the points they need to blow him out of the water.
Based on his barely there persona for the past few months, I don’t see him as being able to do much more than trip quickly.
Yeah tell that to TEXANS that are working and have freedoms the rest of the country only dreams of.
Considering that NOT ONE of the other candidates (including Obama)have successfully ran an economy that is 13th in the WORLD. In fact Zero has destroyed the American economy.
I would suggest you rethink that remark.
But, hey, Newt,Romney,Bachman,Paul,Santorum sure as H know how to SPEND taxpayers money.
>>He remarked that Santorum is probably the least flawed of any of the Republican primary contenders and thereby might be about as good as we are apt to get.
IMHO hes on to something.<<
Don’t buy the MSM “crap” that we don’t have decent candidates. Romney, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum, Bachmann, and Huntsman are all decent people. Compared to the average Democrat officeholder, they’re practically saints. (
And, yes, I left Paul off the list...his newsletter was just that, HIS newsletter.)
This isn’t about decency; I wish it was because the GOP would win in a walk. It’s about policy, and here the candidates clearly differ in many regards. I think Romney’s policies would stink, but that doesn’t make him a bad candidate. I just differ with him on where I think he would take the country.
Tell the MSM to shove it every time they pull out the meme about not having good candidates. For gosh sakes, they supported Obama, a Chicago crook who’s now stealing taxpayer money in Billions instead of just the Millions he was accustomed to stealing for his friends.
Again, we have good, decent, candidates. But they do differ on policies, and that matters. It doesn’t make them bad candidates though.
And, in 2002, if Santorum had taken just a minute to check, he would have learned that Sandusky was a kiddie raper perv? Despite the fact, which you mentioned, that Penn State was/is a cesspool of silence? That's a bit of an oxymoron, no?
As my tagline (sadly) indicates, I don't really have a horse in this race. But I object to a syllogism that says:
Santorum claims to be a family values candidate.
Jerry Sandusky is a kidde raper pervert.
Santorum sponsored an award for Sandusky.
Therefore, Santorum is not really a family values candidate.
Or, by extension, Santorum condones kiddie raper perverts because of hypocrisy, lack of effort, or political expediency.
I reject the above hypotheses and I go directly to Occam's Razor, which states: "from among competing hypotheses, selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions usually provides the correct one, and that the simplest explanation will be the most plausible until evidence is presented to prove it false."
For crying out loud--the most obvious reason that Santorum sponsored an award for (kiddie raper pervert Jerry Sandusky) is that he didn't know that Sandusky was a kiddie raper pervert.
Yeah from a K Street firm hired by Kay Bailey Hutchison spread the rumor. That lasted about a week before PERRY took her to the woodshed on her involvement.
Try a new rumor. That one is old and a WASHINGTON LIE.
He didn’t know.
But the names are linked. People, as stupid as it may sound, will think “wait a minute, he sponsored him for an award”.
The payoff is the “controversy”. Remember Rick Perry and the ranch? He tanked over that.
Santorum will do so here.
Not really. Santorum doesn’t have the money, the support, the name recognition, or the machinery to defeat Romney in the larger battles that take place beyond the early primary states. A santorum victory pretty much guarantees that the fight drags on past super Tuesday which only plays to Romney’s aforementioned strengths.
>>Santorum is coming off a humiliating loss in Pa against a sub par Democrat. Obviously he isnt superman, and Democrats/Romney have likely all the points they need to blow him out of the water.<<
Given that they’ve already shown they can “blow him out of the water” when he lost miserably in 2006, you’re correct.
Furthermore, Santorum’s “surge” (which I believe is real enough) was a direct result of the “surprising” CNN poll that showed him already surging, when, in fact, according to the Des Moines Register polling conducted two days prior and two days after the CNN poll was released, showed no such surge prior to the CNN announcement. All of his “surge” was the result of some Iowans jumping on what they perceived to be the latest bandwagon, in my opinion. Some people just want to be seen as voting for the ultimate winner in the end, and that’s about at deep as they get, unfortunately.
Anyway, as we’ve seen repeatedly in this process, bandwagons have quickly run out of momentum.
Agreed. That's what happens when the media is controlled by the left. Perry was castigated about a painted rock, and now Santorum is in trouble because a popular coach is (later) revealed to be a sexual predator.
But it's perfectly fine that Obama sat in America-hating Jeremiah Wright's church for a quarter of a century, that he is a close friend of convicted terrorist Bill Ayers, that he was up to his eyeballs in convicted felon Tony Rezko's chicaneries, etc., etc., ad infinitum.
Yes your points are valid and I don’t disagree.
Right out of the gate, a Ron Paul supporter advertised for and offered considerable money for evidence of sexual impropriety by Perry, with men or women, and got nothing.
I shouldn't be surprised a Santorum supporter would stoop to that level. His neocon big gov't record, flip flops and political failings are ignored by those obsessed with his social message.
Santorum has no business running. In a rematch with Bob Casey for his old senate seat, he'd lose. Only self-delusion lets him pretend he could beat Obama. If the GOP are down to Santorum, all is lost.
Are you Glen Maxey?
You seem to be pushing his effort to take Perry out because he “hates Gays”.
TELLING THE TALE | After a story planned for the Huffington Post on Rick Perrys alleged same-sex affairs was nixed, gay former Texas Rep. Glen Maxey decided to tell the story himself. (Associated Press)
David Webb | Contributing Writer
AUSTIN Life is changing quickly for gay former Texas Rep. Glen Maxey since the publication last week of his memoir chronicling a five-month investigation of Gov. Rick Perrys alleged homosexual liaisons with a subordinate, steady boyfriends, anonymous sex partners, a hustler and others.
Prior to the books debut Maxey, who returned to activism after leaving the Legislature, had stocked his Austin apartment with food and other supplies, anticipating a period of time when he might want to stay out of sight.
But after his exposé attracted national media attention and outrage from Perrys conservative religious supporters, Maxey decided to go further underground.
Got some death threats of the crank level, but have moved to a safe house until it calms down, Maxey told Dallas Voice in a message via Facebook following a telephone interview over the weekend.
Maxey, who is the only openly gay politician to have ever served in the Texas Legislature, sent the message as he prepared for a Univision interview Monday morning, Dec. 19, and a KLBJ drive-time radio interview that afternoon.
Gov. Rick Perry
The calm before the storm that Maxey had talked about in the telephone interview apparently has now erupted into a major disturbance.
Head Figure Head The Search for the Hidden Life of Rick Perry is the product of Maxeys work with a reporter from The Huffington Post and the frustration he felt when publisher Arianna Huffington killed what the former legislator claims was a completed story approved by editors and ready for publication.
When it became clear the story would never be published, Maxey started writing his book.
In his book Maxey does not name any of the sources he cites that claim knowledge of Perrys alleged sexual escapades, nor does he
name the Huffington Post reporter, whom he refers to only as the national journalist.
The book was at first only available online, but now is available as a paperback through Amazon.com.
Maxey said other publications were interested in talking to him and his sources about the allegations of extramarital homosexual pursuits by Perry, but both he and the men who claimed to know the governor in the biblical sense were reluctant to start over with a new reporter.
That was a mountain I couldnt climb again, and the other folks had the same reaction, Maxey said. Its difficult to get people to talk about sex in general, its more difficult to get them to tell their story to a reporter, and its an even bigger climb when its Rick Perry they are talking about.
Maxey disputes Huffingtons claim to Politico that the story was never ready for publication, and that there was no real story. The activist claims the publisher killed the story after Perrys campaign hired famed libel lawyer Lin Wood, and the lawyer wrote a letter to the Huffington Post threatening to sue if the story was published.
Huffington denied that the lawyers letter had anything to do with her decision.
But, Maxey said, Arianna Huffington told a bald-faced lie.
No response has been received to an e-mail sent by the Dallas Voice to Huffington Posts media relations department seeking comment on Maxeys claim.
Maxey concedes a high-priced call boy who claimed to have engaged in sex with Perry and another man for hire in hotel rooms several times never went on the record, even though celebrity attorney Gloria Allred reportedly was signed on to represent him when the story hit. An affidavit signed by the prostitute whom
Maxey said was feeling traumatized by the prospect of going public with his allegations might have convinced Huffington to go with the story. But the activist maintained there was already enough documentation to justify publication.
Maxey claimed Huffington exercised a double standard when she decided against publication of the Perry story, probably on the advice of AOL parent company corporate attorneys. If the story had involved extramarital heterosexual activities, the story would have run, he claimed.
In late August, the Huffington Post reporter, who made several trips to Austin and had contacted the Dallas Voice for information earlier in the investigation, wrote in an e-mail seeking clarification that he was putting finishing touches on the story before it ran.
Some political observers have speculated Perrys drastic drop in the national opinion polls from frontrunner status might have contributed to Huffingtons decision to kill the story.
Another source familiar with the investigation said it appeared the publisher for reasons only she knows was never interested in outing Perry, and the story will never be published. The Huffington Post scribe reportedly indicated he had no problem with Maxeys book, and that he thought Maxey needed to write it.
For his part, Maxey said that he is not worried about Gov. Perry filing a lawsuit against him, and he doubts anyone from Perrys camp
will ever contact him. The former legislator also doubts that he would lose a lawsuit if Perry filed one against him.
Everything I said in this book is my opinion, Maxey said. I believe Rick Perry is homosexual or had relations with gay men. The evidence points to that conclusion.
Maxey said it is unlikely Perry would file a lawsuit against him because if he did, the governor and his wife, Anita, would be forced to answer questions under oath about the widespread rumor that she caught Perry and another man having sex in the governors mansion six years ago.
At the time, a story was widely circulated that the governors wife had checked into the luxurious Driskill Hotel in Austin and hired a prominent divorce attorney.
The story became so widespread that Perry and his wife who typically avoid one-on-one media interviews sat down with an Austin American-Statesman reporter to refute the tale.
If Perry was bold or stupid enough to file any action against me, my lawyers would welcome the opportunity, Maxey said. I dont think Perry would take that risk.
There has been no response to a telephone request by the Dallas Voice for comment from the Perry campaign.
Maxey said that although he is gaining widespread attention for the book, his only motive in writing it was to expose the alleged hypocrisy of Gov. Perry, who is recognized as the most virulently outspoken anti-gay governor to ever hold office in Texas. The governors claim to conservative religious leaders after he announced for the presidency in August that there was nothing in his personal background to embarrass them rankled him, the Maxey said.
How amazingly hypocritical he was, claiming there would be no scandal, Maxey said. It was astonishing to me. That was the impetus for writing the book.
Maxey said at the time he wrote the book there were only a dozen men known who had claimed to have had sex with Perry. Now, there are twice that many, and new tips come in daily, he said.
I went into publishing this with no real expectations, Maxey said. The story may get retold in a more comprehensive way, and people can make their own decisions about it. I think the rest of this will play out in the public discussion.
Maxey said one thing is for certain: Perry will be a bigger enemy to the states LGBT community than he ever has before if his bid for the presidency continues on its failure track and he returns to Texas. The activist said he wouldnt be surprised if Perry attempted to call the Texas Legislature into emergency session on an anti-LGBT initiative to pacify his conservative religious supporters.
When you see a snake in the grass, you chop off its head, Maxey said. I believe this snake is coming back to Texas. He is going to be a meaner snake. He will have something to prove. He will take it out on gay people.
And that threat is likely to keep Maxey, the author and the activist, busy on his anti-Perry campaign for a very long time.
This article appeared in the Dallas Voice print edition December 23, 2011.
There’s only a few anti-Perry ankle-biting trolls left...they keep glomming on to the flavor of the week candidate and occasionally post their DNC talking points and relive their glory days of hating Perry...
Gee you must be one of the dozen that KNOW all about this rumor.
Even Glennie says it’s all his OPINION. How convenient.