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Posted on 01/03/2012 9:33:11 AM PST by frogjerk
Beginning in 2012, common light bulbs sold in the U.S. will typically use about 25% to 80% less energy. Many bulbs meet these new standards, including incandescents, CFLs, and LEDs, and are already available for purchase today. The newer bulbs provide a wide range of choices in color and brightness, and many of them will last much longer than traditional light bulbs. The lighting standards, which phase in from 2012-2014, do not ban incandescent or any specific bulb type; they say that bulbs need to use about 25% less energy. The bipartisan Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 (EISA 2007) established these efficiency standards.
I thought it was repealed?
Communism at its core.
LLS
I thought it was repealed too. But, stores were suppose to start pulling 100W incandecents off of shelves yesterday. (supposedly).
If any of you would like to buy some 100W incandecent bulbs for $1.25 a peice, I might know a guy.... :o)
House GOP Delays Light Bulb Ban Until October
http://news.yahoo.com/house-gop-delays-light-bulb-ban-until-october-123005582.html
Republicans reached a deal to postpone until October enforcement of energy standards that many fear will be the end of 100-watt bulbs and fill stores with more expensive curlicue fluorescents.
> Didn’t Congress pass a bill to cut off money for this stupid law?
It’s like Obamacare. The DemocRATs will ignore the repeal like it never happened.
Yep. When the rolling blackouts hit from the EPA shut down coal-fired power plants, we'll use a bunch less.
Morons abound in Government.
Looking forward to a dim mercury-vapor-filled future, unless we can shed the likes of the Fred Upton’s, Myth Romney’s, Boehners... and shift to constitutional republicans dedicated to shrinking the federal (currently national) government leviathon.
Why have the enviro-weenies looked the other way on these mercury filled pollutants?
If we do not... there will be a civil war.
LLS
From House GOP Delays Light Bulb Ban Until October
Rep. Fred Upton, chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said the light bulb delay shows Congress is listening to the American people. “We heard the message loud and clear,” said Upton, R-Mich. “Americans don’t want government standards determining how they light their homes.” Upton said he was not opposed to the more efficient – and expensive- curlicue fluorescents that have become increasingly familiar in recent years. But he said government should not penalize those who prefer traditional, incandescent bulbs. “New lighting options are great news for the public, but the lesson is that markets and consumer demand are the best drivers of innovation and new choices,” Upton said.
Rep Upton, why did you champion this thing in the first place?
They (1000bulbs in Texas) do a great job on my orders & delivery.
I thought LED’s would have replaced standard light bulbs by now ayway, without the phony environmentalists pushing them down our throats. They last longer, take less electricity, and aren’t that expensive. Tungsten filiments are starting to seem archaic, like the old vacuum tube.
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Can you point me to a LED 100 Watt incandescent light output equivalent for under $50?
They did, but still some producers would have to continue producing the 100W incandescent for that bill to have any practical effect. Producers are already geared up to produce the new bulbs and it's not clear if any would or could continue producing the old ones.
This type of light also needs to function on a dimmer switch.
In this instance, there are 6 per case...
CA....
Well, considering that you almost never have to replace them, I’m thinking that they could actually be cheaper. Especially considering the much less electricity they use. It’s not cheap here, by the way, for one reason or another.
The problem with the spiral bulbs is that some of our lamp shades are the kind that slip onto the bulb and they will NOT work with the spiral bulb. :(
This statement is about 5 to 7 years premature IMO. The LED technology is still relatively new but is racing along at an ever increasing rate. Most ROI cost analysis are still coming up just shy in the commercial market and way off the market in the residential market.
Secret: Eventually, LEDs will get there and changing bulbs in your house will be a rare event, even though one costs you about $10. Pick the first company to make the technology work for the market and buy some stock. ;o)
The only room we use the 100w bulb is the computer room. Higher ceiling. The problem is that we have a dimmer switch and we haven’t been able to find a spiral 100w that is made for dimmer switches.
I don’t use many 100W bulbs, but still stocked up on I think 32 total bulbs. Those will last quite a few years. But I do use many 60Ws in fixtures that use three 60s, plus many of the three stage lamp bulbs. I’ll probably really stock up on 60Ws, but I’m not sure the three stage bulbs are being outlawed. Need to find out for certain.
They now carry 95W incandescents...
That will be a good place to put LED bulbs first. High ceilings stairwells, difficult to get-to locations really benefit from long life bulbs!
The savings of lives and injuries from falls more than compensates for the added costs.
We only have one lamp that uses a 3 way but its one that uses a lamp shade that fits onto the bulb. :(
I think they should have waited until there were replacements available for dimmers and other special needs. We stocked up a little on the 100’s. We have 24.
I’m not fond of the light cast from LED’s. I did find that with spirals you want 2700K for lighting like the incandescent.
Check out the link below at amazon. This person shows the difference in several bulbs, including dimmers.
Our ceiling isn’t that high, and like I mentiined earlier, I hate the light cast from LED’s and won’t use them unless there is no other option available. They would be my absolute last choice unless they can fix that issue.
Don't they use harnesses for that or special equipment? Now, I'm curious. I have to see if I can find out how many deaths occur from changing light bulbs in high ceilings.
Not to recommend them, but they do exist.
Crony Capitalism through the back door.
The government has eliminated competition for manufacturers of CFLs like General Electric.
No more of those inefficient incandescents for 25¢ a pop. - Now we will be forced to spent 10 or 20 times as much for an inferior product.
And let's not forget - this leftist policy was proposed by a republican and signed into law by George "Dubya" Bush.
Professional installers use safety equipment, or at least they are supposed to.
What people will do in their own homes? Not so much...
And so, for example, they rationalize their impotence by adopting the easy narcissism of the "Green" movement, where good intentions trump science, rights, or reason. In so doing, they abandon even the pretext of self-government, ceding the smallest of personal decisions (and responsibility for them) to a state all too willing to grasp them and never again let go.
A government powerful enough to dictate which light bulbs its citizens may purchase bears no resemblance to the former United States of America, but it certainly does resemble the old Soviet Union. Increasingly, so do many of its people.
At this moment there are no 100W incandescent equivalent, 2700K color temperature, dimmable LED lamps on the market.
Dozens of companies are working on it, and I suspect by Christmas we’ll have a number to choose from.
They’ll be expensive for early adopters, but pretty reasonable in a few years.
Did you bother to read the reviews? LMAO
Product almost functions as advertised. Feature of dimmabilty is greatly needed. There are two weaknesses with this product. While rated as same amount of light as 100 watt incandescent bulb, it is more like a 60 watt. It also starts out very dim and brightens to its max level after about 4 to 5 minutes.
This light bulb works only if it’s used with a specially designed dimmer. Had to but one. Did not dimm with my old dimmer at all.
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The base on all 3 of the bulbs I bought heated up like crazy (this might be normal, I don’t know). One went bad in a day.
I don’t want LED anyway. I prefer the spiral’s lighting to the green LED.
Lately the quality of incandescent bulbs has been pretty bad anyway.
(s) nully, who used to make LEDs back when LEDs were still new...
Some people get exactly as they deserve.
And some don’t.
I thought it was repealed?
Nope. Not repealed. The law is still in effect.
In the current budget bill Congress did cut off money to the Energy Department to enforce the law.
But that would only stop the federal government from spending money to enforce the ban on manufacturing and selling new 100 watt incandescents until the next budget is passed.
The effort is meaningless; too little too late. Because the manufacturing plants have already shut down production of the 100 watt bulb. And they certainly won't go through the expense of restarting production with the law still in effect.
The bans started this month with the 100-watt bulbs. Then in 2013 the 75-watt bulb will be banned, and in 2014 the 40 and 60 watt bulbs are banned.
LOL See, if you were still there they would have the color of the lighting and the dimmable right, by now.
:)
If you are changing a bulb in an 18 ft ceiling without the proper equipment and are seriously injured whose fault is that?
If I stand on the very tippy-top of this 12 foot ladder I can just reach the fixture...
That doesn’t sound safe at all.
Wow - What a relief!
That's only 36 tiimes as much per bulb as the incandescents I just bought!
Let's see - we have about 60 incandescents around the place so I can swap them out for only $9.00 each, plus shipping.
We stayed in a house in southeastern Colorado for two weeks during the holidays. All their bulbs were those ridiculous screw tail ones. Lighting was worse than horrible. Had I known I would have taken some from my stash and replaced them all. Did take my own salt shaker for which I was thankful.
If I stand on the very tippy-top of this 12 foot ladder I can just reach the fixture...
I have a device with a suction-type cup at the end and can stand flat footed on my floor to change the bulbs.
Probably still would be if National’s new VP hadn’t bought an LED facility in Latham NY, because National needed an LED facility.
The idjit didn’t check to find out that National had a perfectly good one in Hawthorne CA.
The “only” solution?
Shut down the Hawthorne facility, which was running quite well, thankyouverymuch, and move operations to NY where the operations were so poor the owners dumped it rather than try to fix it.
Nahh, I’ll be fine, besides it would cost us $50 to have a pro change a friggin’ light bulb. $50??? I don’t think so!
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