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Conservatives blame Santorum for Specter’s win [2004]
The Washington Times ^ | 4/28/2004

Posted on 01/03/2012 9:42:37 AM PST by Happy Valley Dude

Edited on 01/03/2012 9:45:45 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: American Constitutionalist; bjcoop; swpa_mom

Santorum has given an excellent explanation for the pork of old AND the reason why he signed the NO PORK pledge when Jim DeMint called a halt to it. I guess you have selective attention disorder AKA SAD?
Furthermore, for whatever minor lapse in judgement he might ever have had, I have two words that completely exonerate him in my eyes and I will never forget.
TERRI SCHIAVO.


81 posted on 01/03/2012 11:10:35 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Me too and AMEN!


82 posted on 01/03/2012 11:14:24 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

The real culprit: W.


83 posted on 01/03/2012 11:33:13 AM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Parley Baer

Freddie Newt got sliced and diced in Iowa.

If u call finishing in 4th or 5th place in Iowa still standing. Freddie Newt has a ton of baggage. Santorum has a
little, but not like Freddie Newt.


84 posted on 01/03/2012 11:36:32 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: frogjerk

“If that is his baggage then so be it. I will vote for Santorum in the primary if I get a chance.”

I would say there may be more baggage than just that. If you don’t get a chance to vote for him in a primary, I wouldn’t worry too much about it. You would be voting for just another career lawyer-politician, whose ambition for such a career path started so far back it’s as if there was nothing else ever there.


85 posted on 01/03/2012 11:37:56 AM PST by ngat
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To: napscoordinator
How can we forget? Liberals like you bring it up daily.

Yes, I am so liberal that I spent 13 hours working a polling place handing out literature for Rick Santorum and the rest of the Republican ticket on November 8, 1994.

I am so liberal that I did the same thing for Pat Toomey on April 27, 2004.

Each candidate makes bad endorsements. In fact, most here normally say endorsements don’t matter. Suddenly they do? I don’t by it.

Sometimes endorsements do matter. When an incumbent politician in a primary loses the support of other elected officials, it can create a snowball effect which leads a collapse in support. That's part of how Charlie Crist got chased out of the Republican primary in 2010.

Oh and the wonderful voters in Pennsylvania where I voted for Santorum are sadden by punishing Santorum because Casey was part of the Obamacare vote.

Santorum has yet to explain why he lost by a larger margin than any incumbent Senator in 2006.

I remember that Scuzzynova was endorsed by Newt.....where is the story reminding everyone of that????????

Perhaps people are so overwhelmed by Gingrich's serial infidelities, ethics violations, and Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac work that the Scozzafava issue seems to be small potatoes.
86 posted on 01/03/2012 11:44:17 AM PST by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Come on. First of all you know I don’t think you are a liberal. Second of all, I guess I am overwhelmed by the negative stuff coming out on Santorum. I just hope he wins tonight. I am getting a little nervous the closer it gets. I apologize for calling you a liberal.


87 posted on 01/03/2012 11:47:46 AM PST by napscoordinator (A miracle is happening before our eyes! The ONLY MORAL CONSERVATIVE!!! Rick Santorum 2012!!!!!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Very well said.


88 posted on 01/03/2012 11:49:55 AM PST by swpa_mom
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Disappointed Cat is Disappointed

You Didn’t Donate?
I’m Very Disappointed in You
Boop My Nose!

89 posted on 01/03/2012 12:03:16 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Cicero
The one thing he did wrong

He also voted for the prescription drug expansion of Medicare and he voted for No Child Left Behind

Santorum is not the small government conservative answer...Bachmann is but, for whatever reason, she may finish last tonight. Makes no sense to me.

90 posted on 01/03/2012 12:37:29 PM PST by distressed
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To: MestaMachine

I don’t think we differ or disagree in our assessment of what you say was “done to Santorum”.

However, I am lost on how that even remotely addresses what Santorum “did to Toomey”. You may live there, and you may have an inside track on something I don’t know about, evidence that Santorum really wanted Toomey over Specter, and you may have evidence where Santorum publically agonized over dumping Toomey, while he promoted and endorsed Snarlin’ Arlen, but I wasn’t privy to that evidence. It didn’t play anywhere in the conservative world that I know of. Where did I miss it?


91 posted on 01/03/2012 12:39:55 PM PST by RitaOK (The higher you poll in Iowa, the more embarrassing it is for you.)
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To: swpa_mom

I am not from Pennsylvania. What I saw was a nasty concerted effort to defeat Santorum. What I *thought* I saw, also, was conservatives who resented his wondering off the reservation to support Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey and weren’t gonna take it any more and they let him dangle. Hey, maybe I am wrong. Maybe they came out in droves for him, ignored his Arlen endorsement, and Acorn just beat ‘em. I just didn’t hear about it that way.


92 posted on 01/03/2012 12:48:20 PM PST by RitaOK (The higher you poll in Iowa, the more embarrassing it is for you.)
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To: RitaOK

You’re not from Pennsylvania. yet, you celebrate the election of a liberal democrat to the Senate.

Sorry for my sarcasm, by this constant attacking of a GOOD man, Rick Santorum by those calling themselves conservatives is just sickening.

Just keep that firing squad going.

As for me, I’m supporting the republican candidate. Period.


93 posted on 01/03/2012 1:05:55 PM PST by swpa_mom
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To: swpa_mom

“You’re not from Pennsylvania. yet, you celebrate the election of a liberal democrat to the Senate. “

Huh? What are you talking about?

And, who the heck do you know who ISN’T going to be found voting for the Republican candidate anyway?

I was just repeating the way Santorum’s actions played outside of Pennsylvania. It wasn’t good. If it wasn’t that way, you don’t have to get defensive, just say where I was wrong.

Maybe Santorum endorsed Toomey, but that isn’t what I heard. Maybe the PA conservatives didn’t mind him endorsing Specter, but that isn’t what I heard. Maybe it didn’t cost him conservative support, but that isn’t what I heard.

Maybe the guy who replaced Santorum was just moderate enough to pull it off as not that much difference. That is what I heard. I dunno. YOU live there.


94 posted on 01/03/2012 2:04:40 PM PST by RitaOK (The higher you poll in Iowa, the more embarrassing it is for you.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Here's a tweet...@Tea42012 Tea42012
Rick Santorum directly responsible for the passage of Obamacare; supported Arlen Specter, deciding vote for
Obamacare #Iacaucus #teaparty
95 posted on 01/03/2012 2:32:25 PM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: RitaOK

Tempers are flaring.

Bob Casey is hardly a moderate. He’s a liberal democrat. To you “outsiders”, Santorum was slung through the mud by the mainstream media. Many bought the attacks and sadly so, many in PA did as well. That’s why he lost. The media, including the local newspaper that leans liberatarian attacked Santorum continuously, and that influence some inside PA as well.

Please don’t call Casey a moderate, what a joke that is. He’s a liberal.

And, by the way, I believe there are many who will not vote for the republican candidate IF that candidate is a certain former governor of a northeast state. Just look around the site on which we’re posting.

I’m getting defensive of any republican running for president because instead of being attacked by ONLY liberals, now they’re being attacked from conservatives. Meanwhile, Obama gets a pass.


96 posted on 01/03/2012 3:55:56 PM PST by swpa_mom
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To: swpa_mom

Yes, you’re quite right, we’re all getting pretty thin skinned about now, with so much at stake. I have resorted to starting out tonight watching the Hawkeye Cauci with CSpan! I have learned a lot and it isn’t so volatile there, but is going all visual right now with no commentary so I will be surfing.

I do appreciate your view of Santorum’s loss in PA, and I liked him a lot too. That is why the Specter thing stung so much, caused him some trouble and was a problem for me. There are candidates in this race who on the job have done so much more for conservatives everywhere, and for me specifically than Santorum that it is natural that I have gravitated to them.

I certainly expect him to do well in Iowa tonight from what I hear.


97 posted on 01/03/2012 5:11:20 PM PST by RitaOK (The higher you poll in Iowa, the more embarrassing it is for you.)
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