Skip to comments.Swift-Boat Vet Slams Gingrich
Posted on 01/03/2012 10:42:50 AM PST by nickcarraway
Incensed by the negative ads that have spoiled his campaign, Newt Gingrich recently complained hed been Romneyboated, an allusion to the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, whose ads helped derail Sen. John Kerrys presidential campaign in 2004.
John ONeill, the swift-boat captain who led the anti-Kerry movement, is none too pleased with the comparison. To me, it reflects Gingrichs very cynical hypocrisy, which he shares with Kerry, ONeill tells National Review Online. That hypocrisy is the reason why he can appear with [Nancy] Pelosi in climate-change ads and why he can take money from Freddie Mac: If youre part of the political class, [you believe] youre free from any public scrutiny of what youve done.
ONeill has been disappointed with Gingrich ever since the debacle in the late 1990s, when he came close to squandering a Republican majority in the House and engaged personally in conduct that really hurt the Republican party. The ex-speakers recent behavior hasnt been much better. I was shocked by his labeling [Paul] Ryans plan right-wing social engineering, ONeill says. Its deeply cynical conduct and hypocrisy. He has much more in common with Kerry than with any of the other Republican candidates maybe not in ideology, but in other things that count.
Indeed, ONeill sees many similarities between the old pols. Kerry is an extremely cynical guy whose policies change like a kaleidoscope, and Newt Gingrich is just the same. Hes a constantly changing kaleidoscope with one policy idea after another. To Republicans, ONeill advises, You select a president based on the entire person, because the truth is, the policy issues are very likely to be different in a year than they seem to be right now.
ONeill concludes, I would be really proud to win or lose with any of the other Republican candidates. But I would be ashamed if Gingrich were the candidate.
oh please we are just not smart enough to see that it was the press and not newt...or something.....no we are smart enough to fathom that the liberal mask slipped off newt yet again
Gingrich should just drop out. Every move he makes is more embarrassing than the last. I would like him to be Santorum’s Press Secretary.
Just where/how did Gingrich slam any vets?
To me, it reflects Gingrichs very cynical hypocrisy, which he shares with Kerry
well we know newt loves him some kerry and some nancy
First engage mouth before putting foot in gear..
Just trying to be too clever resulting in another self inflicted wound...
Right, swift-boating is a derogatory term used by democrats to slander veterans just like “teabaggers” is used to slander teaparty patriots.
Swiftboating is the legitimate critique of a politician that hurts them in the polls.
The Swiftboat vets only told the truth.
I presume Gingrich feels that the truth has hurt him too.
Gingrich didn’t invoke the swift vote vets in the first place, it was a reporter asking him a question so why should anyone be embarrassed about anything?
Is English your native language?
As I recall, it was the media who first interjected “Swiftboat” into the question to Gingrich.
Gingrich then offhandedly quipped ‘Romney-boated.’
Agreed. It was a snappy Newt come-back to a reporter's loaded quesiton. Unfortunately Newt fell in the trap as would most people. I'm sure he would have preferred to clarify and support the Swiftboaters.
Gingrich gained traction by focusing on Obummer and staying on message. Since then he keeps insisting on deviating on these tangents that turn people off. Talking about the judiciary and now the Kerry’s treatment in ‘04 to his just keeps moving him down in the polls. He should just stick to the economy and Obummer. That is what people are interested in.
I think Newt lives in a bit of a bubble where he must perform amazing stunts to show his awesomeness and intellect. Thus Pelosi & Couch, Kerry/Sharpton & stage, Judicial Arrest, etc.
Newt’s his worst own enemy.
While "Romneyboated" was a poor choice of words, I don't believe Gingrich intentionally smeared the veterans. Nonetheless, I wish he would stop whining about the negative ads.
“I think Gingrich was very wrong to slam these veterans, just to get on the good side of the media... “
WHAT? Oh Please, Gingrich did not slam vets. Newt has and is being “swift boated”. The attacks just keep coming.
The definition is (from wikipedia) “”the term “swiftboating” or “Swift Boating” is now commonly used to refer to what the New York Times describes as “the nastiest of campaign smears”.”
I can understand the wacko left trying to push this thought down their bases throats but please explain yourself as I would like to understand what you are talking about. Are you saying he is not being smeared or nastily attacked?
Some of these clowns are sitting around waiting to be offended.
He'd be crushed in the nationals.
There was no slam; just another establishment GOP step into the media-prepared poop, which they, in turn, used to make a profit at Newt’s embarrassed expense. Had he been on his game, he might have seen it coming, but he isn’t on his game, because he hasn’t had a consistent game since the Republican Revolution of ‘94.
That stated, I’ve no love lost for Newt. He peaked in the mid-1990’s and has done little besides damage his credibility at nearly every turn, and on nearly every issue, ever since.
His personal life reflects a low view of marriage; his flip-flopping on global warming reflects an ability to be unduly influenced by emotional, but scientifically unfounded, arguments — he’s just too pliable for the leadership role that America needs in the office of President; too ready to abandon conservative principle in favor of moderate behavior when it suits him.
American needs a leader with a long track record of successfully resisting such temptations.
John O'Neil still has plenty of time to write a new book!
Rightly so. The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth reported accurately and corrected the record about Kerrys service.
Gingrich fell into a media trap by using this metaphor to suggest unfair treatment, just as Kerry did.
Just wait until the rabid Newt supporters start bashing O’Neill....
So you agree with Gingrich, Kerry, and the media, that the Swiftboat verterans smeared Kerry in 2004?
The “slam” is in using the Dimocrat perjoritive that “Swiftboating” and that the Swift Boat vets were telling lies about Kerry. When, in fact, the Swift Boat Vets were telling the truth about how Kerry was telling lies about his service on the Swift Boats. This is another case of the public being taken in by a deliberate mis-use of a term.
Similar to how the MSM decided to show dimocrat heaevy states as blue (implying freedom) and Republican heavy states as red (implying communism).
It wasn’t a trap. Only someone who sees the world through the media’s lens wold say something like that. Someone should ask Gingrich on the record if he voted for Kerry.
Yeah, but, we are told over and over again that Newt’s the man, he will make minced meat out of the MSM, he’s so smart no body can win it but Newt yeahhhhhhhhh !
ONeill = Rombot
I don’t think there’s any trap or misstep on Newt’s part, there’s just a bunch of dipsticks looking to get Mitt Romney nominated.
I am constantly amazed at how easily people get indignant over something someone supposedly said, I thought it was mostly Liberals who did this, guess not.
Gingrich didn’t “slam” veterans. He was referring to a tactic used to discredit someone, when they sometimes use falsehoods to descredit you. I certainly am no Kerry supporter, but the man served in Vietnam and it only takes one bullet on the first day to get killed. Did he embellish his record? Of course, but he was there. Can’t say the same for the majority of today’s politicians of the same age. And that also includes Gingrich, who I support for president. I feel in no way shape or form was Newt Gingrich putting down veterans. Sounds to me like O’Neil has never been a Newt supporter. Wonder what he think about the others that avoided service in Vietnam.
Gingrich = Rombot
I always took the swiftboat term to mean an effective negative ad campaign. It doesn’t imply whether the ads were true or not, just that they were negative and worked.
The idea that O’Neill bashes Newt for supposedly flip-flopping but would be okay with Romney as a nominee means he has no credibility. He either hasn’t looked at Romney’s record or is being disingenuous and has some other reason to not back Gingrich.
Newt has been extremely consistent on his views and policies over a long period of time. The only thing I’m aware that he changed his mind on was the individual mandate. He worked with Pelosi and Sharpton to promote his views, not because he agreed with theirs. Trying to work with the opposition is a necessary and admirable tactic to get things done. Some people on FR seem to think the opposition is satanic. No, they’re simply wrong, but we can work with them on the portions of their views that are correct. That’s how Newt got things done in Congress.
You select a president based on the entire person, because the truth is, the policy issues are very likely to be different in a year than they seem to be right now.
O’Neil has stated that he voted for Al Gore in 2000, and Ross Perot in 1996 and also in 1992. While I appreciate what he did regarding Kerry, he is hardly someone I would listen to regarding his political views or his opinion of what Newt meant by what he said.
If the press asked Gingrich a loaded question about being "Borked", would his commenting about it mean he was against Judge Bork?
Get real. This was a deliberate trap Newt fell into. Unfortunately, his enemies are now distorting it to beat him up!
I think these Vietnam veterans have lost their effing minds when they go after Gingrich instead of a straight up Vietnam draft dodger like Mitt Romney. What do you think of that?
Gingrich didn’t say he was swiftboated, he said he was Romney-boated. It was literally nothing more than a joke. To read grand implications into it is total projection on anyone else’s part. I guess people didn’t agree with Herman Cain when he said we should have a sense of humor about ourselves and politics sometimes. Sad.
Are you talking about the Swiftboaters?
Conservatives used to be for the truth. Sad that Gingrich is getting you to renounce your conservatism.
The Swiftboat Vets prevented Kerry from getting elected in 2004, now you want to throw them under the bus? Wish you could have seen a Kerry presidency?
At the end of the day, it shows Gingrich is comfortable with the Kerry media mindet. You want someone who thinks like that. Gingrich, Romney, and their “leftwing social engineer” buddies should leave the GOP.
Anyone who compares Newt Gingrich to John Kerry is showing his own ignorance.
Well, Gingrich compared himself to Kerry. He's the one who thinks he's "unfairly" targeted like Kerry.
Giuliani did this same thing in 2008, and if I remember, was slammed on FR for doing so. Gingrich is actually a very similar candidate to Giuliani.
Lard ass Gingrich is four times the size of John O'Neill but half the man.
Marxist moonbats have attacked and insulted O'Neill since Kerry declared himself a war hero and most other Vietnam Vets war criminals.You have clearly stated your position.