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GLOBAL TRAVELERS BEWARE: Another Icelandic Volcano Is Rumbling
TBI ^ | 1-3-2012 | Nick Jardine

Posted on 01/03/2012 10:55:33 AM PST by blam

GLOBAL TRAVELERS BEWARE: Another Icelandic Volcano Is Rumbling

Nick Jardine
Jan. 3, 2012, 11:54 AM

Katla, yet another huge Icelandic volcano, is showing signs that it may soon erupt and cause chaos to world air transport.

Al Jazeera reports that earth tremors around the immense volcano are leading to concerns that an eruption could have both profound effects on Iceland's landscape, as well as disrupting travel worldwide. The volcano last erupted in 1918, making it well overdue for a blast, and it's lava chamber is thought to be some 10 times the size of Eyjafjallajökull, which erupted in 2010.

(By the way, this is hardly the only Icelandic volcano you should be worrying about. Last year we saw reports that Grimsvotn and Bárdarbunga, two other icelandic volcanos, were due to erupt.)

The threat is so great that devices that can be used to track ash particles in the air are currently being tested on European aircraft, Der Spiegel reports. Such devices should hopefully enable flights to continue in the event of an ash cloud following a volcanic eruption.

Some experts say that despite Katla's immense size, perhaps we're overreacting. Xinhua Net reports that scientists in Iceland are uncertain as to whether the volcano will actually erupt and, even if it did, they are unsure whether such an eruption would be large enough to cause major concern.

In 2010 the eruption of Eyjafjallajökull, another Icelandic volcano, caused the grounding of numerous flights around the world with airlines concerned about the effect ash particles would have on airplanes' engines.

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KEYWORDS: doomsday; economy; iceland; volcano
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1 posted on 01/03/2012 10:55:38 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

last year everyone was predicting Ice Age 2 if Katla erupted

At least we can pronounce this one


2 posted on 01/03/2012 11:00:12 AM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: blam

The Collapse of the EU could become an secondary issue to Europeans who suddenly have far more serious problems.


3 posted on 01/03/2012 11:00:54 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: blam
Xinhua Net forgets that it is Katla that is blamed in substantial part for the climate anomaly of 535 AD through 541 AD that resulted in the Dark Ages ~ which also affected China and killed hundreds of millions of people and wiped out their civilization for the next 300 years.

Or maybe they do know all about it ~

4 posted on 01/03/2012 11:01:37 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: silverleaf
We are already 5,000 years overdue for the NEXT major glacial cycle ~ after having gone through about 21 of them over the last 2.5 million years.

Maybe it takes "tough (geological) love" to get 'er started.

This could be it.

5 posted on 01/03/2012 11:03:36 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: silverleaf
Pretty much a Europe and western Asia geographically localized frozen spell for several years anyway.

It isn't like it hasn't happened before so we have to just guess what the result would be. This has been cyclic in recorded history.

6 posted on 01/03/2012 11:04:12 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

Anyone care to invest in some offshore windmills in the North Sea? Ash might work wonders on them


7 posted on 01/03/2012 11:06:49 AM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: blam

“Icland has big problems” (5yo grandson quote)


8 posted on 01/03/2012 11:08:00 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: blam

frackings fault!


9 posted on 01/03/2012 11:09:09 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: muawiyah

“Some experts say that despite Katla’s immense size, perhaps we’re overreacting. Xinhua Net reports that scientists in Iceland are uncertain as to whether the volcano will actually erupt and, even if it did, they are unsure whether such an eruption would be large enough to cause major concern. “

heh.heheheheh.

Yo think Eye - jaffa - jalla joe - cool was fun, you ain’t seen nuttin’ yet.


10 posted on 01/03/2012 11:09:54 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: blam

I believe this volcano is the one that historical climatologist Evelyn Browning-Garriss talks about in her interviews that she is the most concerned about.


11 posted on 01/03/2012 11:14:47 AM PST by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: blam

Probably happen around 21 Dec...


12 posted on 01/03/2012 11:15:26 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: blam

I live half the year on my farm in Northern Ireland.

I left in late November due to the MONSTER, a huge storm that rolled in. Since then the weather has been unbearably cold and I am still in the states. I travel a lot between the US and Europe so this volcanic disturbance will greatly effect my flight itinerary.


13 posted on 01/03/2012 11:16:04 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (I wonder why lions are so afraid of chairs.)
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To: blam
Al Jazeera? In Iceland?
14 posted on 01/03/2012 11:19:31 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: patton

Eye-jaffa-alla-joe has always erupted in sync with Katla
Everytime Katla eruption is mentioned, the word “overdue” is used


15 posted on 01/03/2012 11:20:28 AM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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Here's a map of the ash-fallout zone:


16 posted on 01/03/2012 11:21:32 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: silverleaf

I have noted that.


17 posted on 01/03/2012 11:22:35 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: blam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORC6gddS_Uk&feature=player_embedded

awesome footage


18 posted on 01/03/2012 11:42:34 AM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: Cold Heart
Iceland was first settled in something like 800 AD by some monks.

There was no sign of any prior human habitation or even hunting camps!

No doubt the whole place gets burned off from time to time and recapped with a new basalt surface.

19 posted on 01/03/2012 11:44:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Cronos; wagglebee; dsc; Deo volente; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; ArrogantBustard; ...
it is Katla that is blamed in substantial part for the climate anomaly of 535 AD through 541 AD that resulted in the Dark Ages ~ which also affected China and killed hundreds of millions of people and wiped out their civilization for the next 300 years.

Hmmm...

The apocalyptic prophecies of Hildegard of Bingen, the next Doctor of the Church

...At this time as a punishment for their sins Christians especially will attempt armed resistance to those who at that time are persecuting them, sensing no concern for the death of their bodies.



"A powerful wind will rise in the North carrying heavy fog and the densest dust by divine command and it will fill their throats and eyes so they will cease their savagery and be stricken with great fear.



Then within the Christian people the Holy Godhead will accomplish signs and wonders as if accomplished them at the time of Moses with the pillar of cloud and as Michael the archangel did when he fought the heathen for the sake of the Christians. Because of Michael's help Gods faithful children will march under his protection. They will decimate their foes and achieve victory through Gods power As a result of this a large number of heathens will join Christians in true faith and they will  say   The God of the Christians is true God because such wondrous works have been accomplished among the Christians .


20 posted on 01/03/2012 11:44:40 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Sooth2222

Arabs sell oil to Europeans. They are worried about their customer base!


21 posted on 01/03/2012 11:46:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Good luck with that one. The last time there was a big blow up in Iceland's volcanos the Arabs recovered first and came marching out with Islam (that same 535 - 541 period).

What we need are a bunch of volcanos in Afars to blow up and put them all in a Dark Age (as if they'd notice). Then the Christians can go marching about.

I think these prophecies apply to different people in a different time.

22 posted on 01/03/2012 11:49:52 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“Arabs recovered first and came marching out with Islam (that same 535 - 541 period).”

IIRC, the Year One in Islam was 622 A.D. when Mohammed made his hijra from Mecca to Medina (he died in 632 A.D.). The Muslim conquest of the Arabian peninsula and the Middle East took place over the following hundred years.


23 posted on 01/03/2012 12:02:10 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: muawiyah

If Islam is part of God’s punishment, wouldn’t that mean that Islam was created by God to do His bidding?


24 posted on 01/03/2012 12:02:24 PM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: blam

Sad that we have to depend on news from “Al Jazeera.”

Something big is brewing under Iceland.


25 posted on 01/03/2012 12:03:37 PM PST by pallis
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
There is this one too in today's news...

Alaska Eruption Puts Airlines on Alert

Volcanic Ash CloudPeople have already seen the kinds of problems volcanic eruptions can cause for the airline industry. Maybe that is why so many people are disappointed to hear that another eruption has put the airline industry on high alert. According to reports, a volcano in Alaska has sent an ash plume some 15,000 feet into the air. This ash plume is a cause for concern.

Scientists in Alaska and airlines have been put on alert. They have been on alert ever since the ash cloud came about on Thursday. Cleveland Volcano in Alaska’s Aleutian islands sent up an ash cloud that prompted scientists to increase the alert level for commercial planes. To make matters even worse, they are not even 100 percent sure if the eruption is over with yet.

Once an ash cloud reaches 20,000 feet, the airline industry and the Federal Aviation Administration really start to worry. This is when airlines have to start canceling flights


26 posted on 01/03/2012 12:10:13 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: muawiyah

Wasn’t it Krakatau that is blamed for the climate anomaly of 535 AD through 541 AD, not Katla?


27 posted on 01/03/2012 12:19:35 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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28 posted on 01/03/2012 12:30:28 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Both as it turns out. Problem with Krakatau is it didn't blow up in the critical time period ~ but it may have STARTED something that an eruption in Iceland amplified ~ kind of like there's two football players. One guy is placing the ball. The next one kicked it. Who got the fieldgoal? Well, the team got the fieldgoal!!!

I think we have eyewitness accounts of a near miss by a comet right there at the beginning. King Ad, Lady Guinivir, Saint Gildas and others saw it!

29 posted on 01/03/2012 12:49:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: elcid1970
535-541 was a worldwide problem, worse in the Northernmost parts of the Northern Hemisphere.

Recovery from that problem (that same.... period) made a big difference politically.

The further South the quicker the recovery ~ presuming there was any recovery possible.

So, the Byzantines and Persians persisted in battling it out just in time to find the Arabs were in better shape fiscally, and militarily, so the Arabs finished up the fight against the Persians and proceeded to take over former elements of the Roman Empire.

Many at the time applauded the Arabs for eliminating the Persian threat.

The Arabs biggest "victories", if not their biggest "battles" took place in quick succession right after they'd conquered Damascus. The histories show they proceeded to hire entire Byzantine military units and much of the Byzantine navy. Those folks hadn't been paid for a century.

The rest of the development of the Arab empire in the West occurred in less than a century. The development in the East took longer simply because of the greater distances involved.

So, your question is, was Islam one of God's tools? Might be God makes judgments on a basis so profound we can never know the answer. In any case, Northern and Western Europe, Central Asia and much of China had entered the period as the world's largest outdoor slums ~ and when you read the few writings that occurred in that period the writers seem oblivious to the fact things had gotten much worse!

30 posted on 01/03/2012 1:00:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam

Katla was the expected follow-up to eyjafjallajokull, and potentially could be devasting (in the catastrophic sense, not the cnn sense) for northern europe.


31 posted on 01/03/2012 1:02:00 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: muawiyah
Interesting. According to the Global Volcanism Program's website, Katla's Eruptive History does show an eruption around 540AD, but the closest on Krakatau's Eruptive History is 416 and 850AD.

Tell me more about the comet sightings at that time.

32 posted on 01/03/2012 1:03:26 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: muawiyah

it is quite a surreal place, large tracts of the country are covered in geologically recent lava fields. I remember one hill near lake myvatn which you could see had literally been ripped at the center and separated over time.

The country, from a landscape perspective, is unique.


33 posted on 01/03/2012 1:06:08 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
There's a part in the writings of St. Gildas where he refers to a fire that raged across the land and went into the Western Sea.

This is usually read as a reference to the invasion of the Saxons into Souvrn' England.

What we now know is there was no large invasion, no burning of the country, and people didn't just die with no signs of wounds ~ as indicated in Gildas.

You could have a smaller comet behave like a meteor bolid that would swoop in a great arc over a considerable part of the planet. Depending on how close it was, it could start fires as it passed. People on the ground would have seen it coming for months possibly. The noise would have been absolutely incredible if it managed to penetrate the atmosphere.

As it passed beyond the atmosphere in the far West it would have seemed to have first disappeared into the sea.

So, yes, that's one eyewitness. There are others. It's the basis for the end of the Annals of the Kings of Britain ~ the END OF THE WORLD ~ and then all the characters become survivors.

Myrrden had to replant the grapes in Brittany, and on the upper reaches of the Rhone Valley. Probably got frozen out. And who's Myrrden ~ isn't he from Europe? Why did these guys move from Britain to Brittany and France ~ where were the people ~ didn't anybody think to stop them? Tree rings from that time even show several years of stunted growth.

The caravans crossing the Great Sind in Baluchistan moved on, a few dogs barked! No one noticed that Europe and China were missing!

34 posted on 01/03/2012 1:16:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: WoofDog123
I've flown over Iceland FOUR TIMES. It is absolutely mind-numbing. Everywhere else you see features like that they've been worn down by millions of years of weather.

In Iceland it's all fresh tossed out from the upper mantle.

35 posted on 01/03/2012 1:18:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: silverleaf

Katla is a super volcano?


36 posted on 01/03/2012 1:27:05 PM PST by jpsb
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To: blam

I am crossing Iceland off my vacation list. I’m going to go to Hawaii instead - at least I’ll feel more safe there.


37 posted on 01/03/2012 1:28:40 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 34 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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To: WoofDog123
"Katla was the expected follow-up to eyjafjallajokull, and potentially could be devasting (in the catastrophic sense, not the cnn sense) for northern europe. "

Yup. Isn't there a history of a big follow-up by Katla within two years after a eyjafjallajokull eruption?

38 posted on 01/03/2012 1:38:36 PM PST by blam
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To: SamAdams76

Hmmm..... so Icelandic volcanoes are more formidable than Hawaiian ones?

Madame Pele is not amused!

;^)


39 posted on 01/03/2012 1:42:34 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: muawiyah
There's a part in the writings of St. Gildas where he refers to a fire that raged across the land and went into the Western Sea.

Sounds a lot like the Great Peshtigo fire which happened at exactly the same time as the Great Chicago Fire, which some attribute to Comet Biela.

Found a good summary of the comet/540AD discussion here: Baillie’s Comet & Gildas

40 posted on 01/03/2012 1:44:10 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: elcid1970

Hey, if my fate is to be buried in a volcano, I’d rather have it happen while getting a tan on the beach in Hawaii than to have it happen while shivering on an iceberg!


41 posted on 01/03/2012 1:44:52 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 34 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Astronomers unravel a mystery of the Dark Ages

The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?

42 posted on 01/03/2012 1:56:54 PM PST by blam
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
The book, Exodus To Arthur, by Baillie is an excellent book.
43 posted on 01/03/2012 2:01:48 PM PST by blam
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To: jpsb
Katla is a super volcano?

No.

The last super-volcano to blow was Toba. See here for details.


44 posted on 01/03/2012 2:08:20 PM PST by blam
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Baille's thesis is more than interesting ~ what we now know about Bolides is far greater than what we imagined just 10 years ago. They could be very large.

BTW, analysts think that St. Gildas may well refer to more than one individual, but so little is known about the fellow (that pesky Dark Age saw so terribly many things burned) that it is a merely a scholarly thing to place his birth at 500 AD rather than earlier or later.

I think it most interesting that he wore a single garment, had 24 brothers over beyond the Wall, and otherwise preached extreme pacificism.

Worth noting ~ why Gildas delayed his writing was because he'd gone to Rome just before the event. What had been an easy trip in 534 was abysmally disastrous in 536. He reports of what he saw on his way back and it does sound like he went overland from Rome to Britain.

Shortly afterward you find King Ad giving away the family farm to the Saxons ~

45 posted on 01/03/2012 2:16:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

News from a few hours ago..

Huge volcano 390 miles from London set to erupt?
http://travel.aol.co.uk/2012/01/02/huge-volcano-390-miles-from-london-set-to-erupt/

A volcano with the power to eject billions of tons of magma is due to erupt anytime, say experts.

Located under the Laacher See lake near Bonn in Germany erupts every 10 to 12,000 years, and last exploded 12,900 years ago.

Small earthquakes in the region indicate that it could be waking up, and experts predict ‘widespread devastation, mass evacuations, and even short term global cooling from ash cloud blocking the sun’, says the Daily Mail.

Volcanologists believe that the volcano is still active as carbon dioxide bubbles are rising to the lake’s surface, which indicate the magma chamber degassing.

Experts are not entirely sure of the effects it would have on Britain, but predict that large areas of southern England could be covered in ash.


46 posted on 01/04/2012 5:27:43 AM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

See comments, post #1


47 posted on 01/04/2012 7:36:39 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: SamAdams76

Hey, I second your choice of beach over chill mountains.

I live in beautiful South Carolina which has both miles of coastline and wonderful hills in the Piedmont area. I have vacationed in both places and rich folks whom I know have built huge houses in each of these locations.

But I’ll tell you this much, there are no black bears, snakes, or marauding raccoons on the beach, and there are no hordes of bikini clad girls in them thar hills (except maybe Lake Lure).

For me the choice is simple only please don’t tell my wife.

;^)


48 posted on 01/04/2012 6:52:55 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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