Skip to comments.Ron Paul’s Base
Posted on 01/03/2012 3:30:43 PM PST by mnehring
Heres another tragic misunderstanding of Ron Pauls message of human freedom: Paul has just gained David Dukes endorsement. This week, the former KKK Grand Wizard telephoned into the radio show hosted by Stormfront founder Don Black to announce his support, and the two men had the following conversation.
Ron Paul was a hot topic this week on the talk radio show hosted by prominent white supremacist Don Black and his son Derek. Mr. Black said he received Mr. Pauls controversial newsletters when they were first published about two decades ago and described how the publications were perceived by members of the white supremacist movement. Former KKK Grand Wizard and Louisiana Congressman David Duke also phoned in to explain why hes voting for Mr. Paul.
Everybody, all of us back in the 80′s and 90′s, felt Ron Paul was, you know, unusual in that he had actually been a Congressman, that he was one of us and now, of course, that he has this broad demographicbroad base of support, Mr. Black said on his broadcast yesterday.
Mr. Black is a former Klansman and member of the American Nazi Party who founded the white nationalist website Stormfront in 1995. He donated to Mr. Paul in 2007 and has beenphotographed with the candidate. Mr. Paul has vocal supporters in Stormfronts online forum.
Black said on air he does not regard Paul as currently a white nationalist. To which David Duke answered:
Again, I go back to that, you know, traditional topic that I always talk about, you know, the powers of international Zionisma power in banking, a power in media, a power in government influence, in campaign financea power thats, you know, hurting the values of this country on behalf of Israel, Mr. Duke said. So, I would vote for Ron Paul at this moment because hes one of the few candidates who have policies in this regard and this realm that I wholeheartedly support, and thats why Id vote for him.
A politician isnt answerable for the antics of every one of his supporters. But theres surely a reason, isnt there, that racists, anti-Semites, 9/11 Truthers, and Holocaust deniers are so strongly attracted to the Paul campaign. They hear something. They continue to hear it too, no matter how firmly Ron Pauls more mainstream supporters clamp their hands over their own ears.
Should surprise no one.
Paul winks at these people while publicly denying any association so they continue to cheer him on.
Looks like the racists have read and enjoyed the Ron Paul newsletters. They know when they have found one of their own.
“It’s the company you keep, boy.”
You gonna eat those nachos bro?
This is another painful reminder of what’s wrong with Run Paul; it’s like seeing Obama at the Reverend Wright’s Church, or knowing that Senator Byrd was once a Grand Kleagle in the KKK. Decent people don’t associate with anti-Semites and racists. Obama failed that test. Paul has failed that test. Ronald Reagan did not. He never accepted any support from these vile sorts.
“A politician isnt answerable for the antics of every one of his supporters. But theres surely a reason, isnt there, that racists, anti-Semites, 9/11 Truthers, and Holocaust deniers are so strongly attracted to the Paul campaign. They hear something. They continue to hear it too, no matter how firmly Ron Pauls more mainstream supporters clamp their hands over their own ears.”
David Freaking Frum?!? Are you even trying to hide your support for Romney in this thing tonight? Good Lord...
Funny, Paul supporters are more offended by Frum than David Duke.
It finally dawned on me the other day why otherwise reasonable and intelligent people would support this nut-job. Every person who I know who likes Ron Paul has a strong anti-authoritarian streak which sometimes overrules their better judgment.
He winks at these people, just as he winks at his “I always vote no on spending” after he loads these bills that will pass with crap.
Paul is a fraud.
Form up the circular firing squad. Here we go.
No, F@#k David Dude. I'm just as offended by people such as milquetoast moderate RINOs who think that liberal Frum is the man.
This is what a lot of Ron Paul supporters actually believe. Ron Paul may never specifically say this stuff, but he also never seems to shoot these nutty conspiracy theorists down either. He does not disassociate himself from them, and by not doing so he encourages yet more insanity.
Pretty much ever nutty tin foil hatter I know loves Ron Paul. Paul literally has a kook coalition consisting of wackadoodles from all over the country to include illuminati conspiracy theorists, 9-11 truthers, people who believe the Bilderberg Group is some dark conspiracy out to control us, near every stripe of Jew haters who believe Israel is the force of evil on earth conspiring to engineer nearly every bad thing that ever happens (including 9-11), etc, etc.
Oh, and I did some checking, Frum has been mostly pushing for Santorum. He has been somewhat negative on Romney too.
The jew hating 9-11 truther is not in any GOP circle .
This creep called our Desert storm soldiers “ war criminals “.
The man is insane and fraud .
I'm a person who likes Paul and I consider myself pro-authoritarian.
I simply want all authority to recognize and subordinate itself to the chain-of-command especially to Him who is at the top of it!
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.
The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
There is truth in that. Another reason I've identified for RP support. Paul rarely if ever shoots down nutty conspiracy theorists. When presented with something completely insane, Paul will empathize with the person or group rather than specifically explain why dumb conspiracy theories are dumb. Part of it is that Paul likely believes many of these things too, another part is Paul knows conspiracy theorists are a big part of his coalition and he doesn't want to alienate any of them. With that in mind, every quack and crank from across the land believes Paul is a truth teller who will validate their goofy beliefs. Imagine believing your whole life that there are FEMA concentration camps housing everyone who knows the truth about the Bilderberg Group. Now imagine a presidential candidate that doesn't actually laugh at you for thinking that. Well, those people are drawn to Paul because they think he is going to prove them right. The fact that he doesn't giggle at them alone is enough to get their vote.
This phony Ron Paiul support are Dem and Union activist being bussed in just like Obama did in 2008.
The fact the RNC did not stop this Axelrod voter fraud scam tells how stupid these clowns are
Do you hates Jews like Ron ?
Are you a 9-11 truther like Ron?
Do you think are troops are war criminals ?
I agree completely, in my mind that disqualifies both of them from high office. Many of us on FR knew that 4 years ago, and exposed it. Regarding both of them. For some, like freedom fighters and terrorists, one mans bigot is another mans hero. IMO a fundamental lack of morality underlys that position. A common flaw that the world has seen before many times.
That is probably the most accurate analysis of RP fans that I have seen. Ron Paul is seeing more support than ever becuase some conservatives are so sick of the nanny state and the liberal GOP that they will support the man becuase they think he hates the same people they hate. These people want so badly to send a big FU to the establishment that they are willing to overlook many troubling things.
How about opposing “In God We Trust” as the national motto because he thinks the Federal Government has no place in establishing a national motto to God.
His argument is so asinine, if you follow it, we shouldn’t even have a national flag or any national monument.
That is just Mr, Danielle Steele’s camouflage. Frum would be embarrassed to be at his wife’s cocktail parties if he genuinely had the hots for any R candidate except Romney.
I love the God that loves and chose the Jews. I'm actually pro-Israel but I also recognize that it is it's own worst enemy just as we are ours.
If you care what I think about 9-11 well then I take it at face value but I think the anaphylactic security shock our country has inflicted on itself in the aftermath has been devastating. I suspect many in the GOP are as bad about exploiting a crisis to usurp power as the Democrats are. I can't understand why we need a Department of Homeland Security. The DOD is good enough.
Our troops and their families are constantly being exploited. All war is evil but some participation in war is righteous. It takes a special kind of grace in serviceman to sacrifice his life for his country, and I marvel that they have to submit to this situation where they know they are being vainly and spitefully used.
Sure we should. Hair can pass, he just doesn't have that Roman Emporar nose. Wonder how he looks in a toga.
What makes you think that you will get this from Ron Paul? Ron Paul's career as a Congressman has always been as someone who refused to follow the party's hierarchy. He wore his independence on his sleeve. Now, of course, Ron Paul would claim to be following proper principles but most would view these principles as flexible enough to allow him to conveniently do whatever he wanted.
Although Ron Paul has stated that Jesus Christ is his Lord and Savior, I have not seen Ron Paul's respect for political chain of command. I think this is his appeal to his followers - sticking his finger in the eye of "the man."
Amen. My biggest problem with the GOP apparatus is that they continue to allow flimsy open Primaries in some states. NH has like a 5 minute residency to vote for crying out loud. Close the Primaries to resident GOP voters and nuts like Paul will quickly be eliminated.
I think Dr Paul has done very well keeping his oath by discharging his duties.
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."
“But theres surely a reason, isnt there, that racists, anti-Semites, 9/11 Truthers, and Holocaust deniers are so strongly attracted to the Paul campaign.”
I’m not a supporter of Ron Paul, but he’s a piker compared to the democrats support of racists, anti-Semites and 9/11 kooks.
The democrat party is the slave party, the segregationist party and the racist party. And the Chicago pig obuma is the biggest racist to ever occupy the Whitehouse.
The racist pig obuma is trying to bring back slavery, damn that SOB to hell. He wants a race war so he can create chaos.
Ron Paul has serious problems, but the pig obuma is our No.1 enemy.
Let’s not forget that.
There is definitely a formal leadership team in the House who can count on Ron Paul being a rogue. You have heard of the Speaker of the House, majority and minority leaders, majority and minority whips, etc., right?
Ron Paul is going to have a much bigger support base on this forum than you think, at least by the time 2012 elections start up. If they dont post it outright, they will be thinkin it.
To quote the owner of this forum, FURP
Hey Hey, hold it there. I am not saying I support Ron Paul-I dont and consider him among the least ideal options among Republicans or Democrats. But I do think he will gain shocking amounts of support from far leftist Marxists to the most committed right leaning God-Guns-Country type of folks and everyone between.
I have a feeling this forum would go third party before going Fraud Paul.
Congressional “leadership” in the Constitution and is limited to the Vice President and the Speaker of the House (who need not be a member). I would say that so-called Congressional “leadership” is generally one of the biggest sources of the problems in our government today.
WHat I am hoping for is that after the 2012 elections we finally decide it’s over regarding the 2 party system we have and that we need at the very least a third party that can get as much support as Democrats or Republicans. A true Conservative party, a Libertarian Party, an Independent Party and Democrats taking the role of the true Liberal party and Republicans, well, that would be entirely up to them.
I suspect this clowns kept them open to help Romney but it has backfired big time .
Axelrod and Soro saw an opportunity to embarrass the GOP with lunatic Paul as the GOP poster boy !
Mark was trying real hard to keep his New Years resolution and be more patient. But that caller lied to his screener and said hewas a Santorum supporter. Nobody likes being lied to.
The KKK supported FDR. Why wouldn’t they? He refused to integrate the military, and opposed the civil rights bills proposed by Robert Taft. He appointed KKKer Hugo Black to the Supreme Court. He even refused to admit black children to his polio camp. Yet David Frum venerates FDR.
Yep. It's also "Operation Chaos" in reverse.
Those who are supporting Ron Paul say it all, KKK, neo-Nazis, college twits since Ron Paul has stated he will legalize drugs, and I bet the Tehran Islamic tyrants lo0ve him too.
Smaller goverment is good for every individual interest that is not in using the same to steal from or otherwise repress their neighbor.
“This is another painful reminder of whats wrong with Run Paul; its like seeing Obama at the Reverend Wrights Church, or knowing that Senator Byrd was once a Grand Kleagle in the KKK. Decent people dont associate with anti-Semites and racists. Obama failed that test. Paul has failed that test. Ronald Reagan did not. He never accepted any support from these vile sorts.”
There is a Gigantic different between Obama and Byrds active association & support of theses people and Paul’s resieving of support from folk.
Good and Bad people agree on many if not most things, even when they agree for different reasons. Indeed it is the logical singularity of libertarianism that attracts support from all sides. Why? Simply put it allows everyone the prospect of doing more of what they want free of Big central Goverment.
Communist like it when they don’t win because they can then experiment in communism. Anarchist like it for the same reason, people from every strip that don’t necessarily conform to the uniformity that Goverment attempts to impose upon us all.
It is thus to be expected that among the supporters of big goverment will be those that disagree most with the opinions of the majority who define the same uniform code imposed by that goverment upon all.
The political chain of command you speak of, has divided the once united and all but left America flat broke, bankrupt and dead on the floor.
Respect? This is a joke right?
How unAmerican of them.
Ron Paul isn't in Congress to follow Party orders, he is there to represent the people in his district. They are his bosses, not the GOP. Like it or not, that is how it is supposed to work, and just might have something to do with his getting re-elected.
Anyone who goes to Washington and forgets about the folks back home to suck up to the Party elite ought to be canned.