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Tennessee woman shouldn't be punished for doing right thing with gun
Knoxville News Sentinel ^ | 1/3/12 | Editor

Posted on 01/03/2012 5:02:44 PM PST by SmithL

Free Meredith Graves!

Just about everyone in the country now knows about the Louisville, Tenn., woman who was arrested when she tried to check her gun at the 9/11 Memorial in New York City.

The nurse and medical student had driven to New York with her husband to interview for a residency at Brookhaven Memorial Hospital in Long Island. While in the Big Apple, they decided to do a little sightseeing.

Graves has a Tennessee handgun carry permit and had a loaded .32-caliber Kel-Tec in her purse. When she saw the no-guns symbol at the memorial, she asked a guard where to check her weapon and abruptly found herself under arrest and facing a 3½-year minimum sentence for violating New York's strict gun laws.

"She was being honest," Graves' mother-in-law, who lives in New Jersey, protested to the New York Post. "Everyone down there carries, and she just forgot."

The incident reinforces an array of silly stereotypes.

Graves, an educated professional, is cast in the role of an aw-shucking, dunderheaded hillbilly, down from the hollers where the folks all pack heat.

New York City, America's hometown during the Twin Towers tragedy, presents itself as an effete enclave where rampant fear and liberalism have gnawed to death all signs of common sense.

The risks are real, though.

(Excerpt) Read more at knoxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; US: New York; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; nyc; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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To: cayuga

Someone should publish a pamphlet that outlines differences in laws


Click on the link on Post #39 and get to the home page and on the right hand margin they are selling a book (I had the same thing a while back) for about 18 (which includes shipping). You can order online or mail in.
Title is “Travelers Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States”.


51 posted on 01/03/2012 8:08:46 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) EGOIST - A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. A. Bierce)
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To: Clock King

I read somewhere in the news about all the things that happened on January 1m that 40,000 new laws came into effect.

So now there are 40,000 new ways to become a criminal, many likely to vary from state to state so legislatively induced criminality is almost a certainty.


52 posted on 01/03/2012 8:09:36 PM PST by Postman (Cut, Cap and BBA)
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To: vetvetdoug

I agree on Few NNork....What did poor Aruba do??


53 posted on 01/03/2012 8:13:21 PM PST by Postman (Cut, Cap and BBA)
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To: smokingfrog

Over the years I’ve seen plenty of stories on FR about small caliber weapons successfully being used for defense. Sometimes with a dead attacker.


54 posted on 01/03/2012 8:24:43 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Paved Paradise
Huh? I bet you know the laws of all 50 states, right? Sheesh

I make sure I know the current laws of any state I'm going through or staying in. It's really not that hard to do.

If you need help, check the NRA website.

55 posted on 01/03/2012 8:28:13 PM PST by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Well from what Goetz said, he did not appeal or contest the judgement because he wanted people to see how out of control liberalism was and is in New York city. He also said he has not paid a dime towards that which baffles me because I assume in all this time his failed assailants attorneys could have garnished his paycheck or done some other thing to get the money. The guy isn’t exactly poor, I remember he lived and may still live in a condo on 14th street in Manhattan which isn’t cheap in the least. I don’t know, I know he runs his own business called “Vigilante electronics” (believe it or not) and maybe somehow he has been able to hide his finances all this time although I can’t see how.


56 posted on 01/03/2012 10:20:39 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (I have a pet who's a pup that's why I call him puppet.)
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To: SmithL

Tennessee could insist before the Federal courts and the people of theses united States that the people of Tennessee have been injured by being denied full faith & credit in the State of New York.

The Tennessee State Legislator could even pass a resolution expressing the outrage of the people of Tennessee against the actions of the City & State of New York assaulting their rights of Full faith & credit.

Just to get attention the resolution might even suggest that unless their citizen is released & returned to to the safety & freedom of Tennessee. New Yorker in Tennessee may find themselves mired by a similar injustice.


57 posted on 01/03/2012 10:46:21 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: SmithL

Idiots! “Everyone down there carries.” Sheesh!


58 posted on 01/03/2012 11:10:06 PM PST by beckysueb
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To: Monorprise

You’re right in everything you said should happen and kudos for using the lower case “u” in “these united States (of America)”, the way it was originally meant to be. Now I know that there at least two of us who do that.


59 posted on 01/04/2012 12:11:24 AM PST by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: beelzepug

“You’re right in everything you said should happen and kudos for using the lower case “u” in “these united States (of America)”, the way it was originally meant to be. Now I know that there at least two of us who do that”

I’m not sure it should happen at all, I said it could happen. To be honest I have half a mind to tell people to avoid the totalitarian State of New York. A general Boycott seems more fitting and respectfully of the need for diversity among the states.

The only thing I’m sure of is that the Tennessee woman should not be serving 4 years in jail for something that is perfectly permitted in her own state. They should at least give her the option of being banished from the state of New York.

I would be impressed to Tennessee work bring their citizen home & defend their Full Faith & credit rights.
New York’s acts is after all without a doubt an assault on Tennessee’s Full Faith & credit rights under the Federal Constitution. An assault if successful that would brave major economic & political consequences for the people & state of Tennessee(along with everyone else) were it to stand.

The veiled threat against New Yorkers in Tennessee is more of a statement of reality then a threat. If new York can disregard Tennessee licenses and arrest people on that ground then so too can Tennessee disregard New York’s.

Tennessee as a State has many options in defending their rights. Were I a Tennessean I would consider pressing my legislator & govern to exercise them options in the more active defense of Tennesseans & Tennessee sovereignty.

There is much that can be done, it is up to the people & state of Tennessee to do it. Just know that by defending their rights they are defending the rights of all Americans.


60 posted on 01/04/2012 1:01:20 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: smokingfrog

In the true spirit of FR. She is NOT GUILTY. She can be my doctor anytime.


61 posted on 01/04/2012 5:20:35 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SmithL

PAY ATTENTION: Going to the Northeast Corridor of the United States with firearms is like going to a communist dictatorship with guns if caught you will be imprisoned regardless of what you believe your Constitutional rights are !!!!

The governments of the various states of the Northeast Corridor (yes I mean all three branches )don’t give a damn about the Constitution . Understand this when you go there .


62 posted on 01/04/2012 7:19:33 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Nebr FAL owner

“PAY ATTENTION: Going to the Northeast Corridor of the United States with firearms is like going to a communist dictatorship with guns if caught you will be imprisoned regardless of what you believe your Constitutional rights are !!!!

The governments of the various states of the Northeast Corridor (yes I mean all three branches )don’t give a damn about the Constitution . Understand this when you go there .”

I wonder what would be involved in organizing a boycott...


63 posted on 01/04/2012 12:51:22 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

There areall sorts of ways - leagal or not - to avoid paying a judgment.

The plaintiff probably couldn’t find an attorney to go after the judgment because the payoff for an attorney made in not worthwhile.


64 posted on 01/04/2012 1:54:21 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: cayuga

somehow I don’t think you do. Maybe you check the gun laws, but if you really check out ALL the laws every time you visit another state, you’d be a very busy person. The Ohio Revised Code alone would be entail quite a bit of homework.

I think the bottom line here is that this person was trying to do the right thing and we need to focus on the bad people. This is why so many people HATE our legal system, even though it is the best in the world.


65 posted on 01/04/2012 8:04:27 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: bimboeruption

That is absolutely right. One must know the laws of any state in which they possess a firearm.


66 posted on 01/06/2012 10:25:14 AM PST by jcupinnyc
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To: Clock King
Under what reason did the Stazi have to search his vehicle for a simple traffic failure?

The Stasi have jackboots, badges and guns.

Reason?

They don't need no steeenkin' reason.

67 posted on 01/06/2012 10:28:05 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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