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Iowa finish could knock Perry out of SC debate
Washington Examiner ^ | 01/03/2012 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 01/03/2012 7:39:50 PM PST by Rational Thought

Gov. Rick Perry, R-Texas, appears doomed to a fifth-place finish in Iowa. Unless he drops out, that would make South Carolina his last stand against Republican frontrunner Mitt Romney.

The problem is that he might not receive an invitation to an upcoming South Carolina debate (given the debate criteria).

Candidates can qualify to participate in the CNN/Southern Republican Leadership Conference debate January 19th (two days before the South Carolina primary) in one of four ways. First and second, they can place in the top four in either Iowa or New Hampshire. Third and fourth, they can qualify by averaging seven percent support in three polls conducted nationally or in South Carolina by certain approved media and polling organizations.

Either Newt Gingrich or Rick Perry, it appears, will receive the debate invitation that comes with a fourth place finish in Iowa. With 31 percent of precincts reporting, Gingrich is in fourth place (13 percent) and Perry is in fifth place with ten percent support.

(Excerpt) Read more at campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com ...


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1 posted on 01/03/2012 7:39:53 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought
Iowa finish could knock Perry out of SC debate

I guess there really is a silver lining in every cloud.

2 posted on 01/03/2012 7:45:28 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Rational Thought

thanks for posting this article.

Something interesting in it that I didn’t know:

“Perry is skipping New Hampshire...”


3 posted on 01/03/2012 7:48:15 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Rational Thought
Third and fourth, they can qualify by averaging seven percent support in three polls conducted nationally or in South Carolina by certain approved media and polling organizations.

Ouch! I feel for my friends who are Perry supporters. Never in their wildest dreams would they have thought that Ron Paul and Rick Santorum would beat Rick Perry out, or that Bachmann would be giving Perry a run for his money.

Some of them even flew to Iowa on their own dime to try and help Perry out. Ain't going to be a fun plane ride back.
4 posted on 01/03/2012 7:48:24 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Rational Thought

Ain’t going to happen. Huntsman is the one that needs to be gone.


5 posted on 01/03/2012 7:48:38 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Rational Thought

It seems like things are falling into place for Romney any way I look at this.


6 posted on 01/03/2012 7:49:25 PM PST by RC one (get ready to hold your nose and vote.)
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To: Rational Thought

I think we all should tweet, email, write, contact the RNC and Reince Priebus and tell the GOP to END THE SUPPORT of the Libertarian Candidate.

Ron Paul is NOT in any way representative of the Republican Party. Why they use resources to promote him and his antiestablishmentarianism point of view is beyond understanding.


7 posted on 01/03/2012 7:52:46 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (I am Roman Catholic, US Citizen, Patriot, TEA Party Alumni, Oath Keeper, Voter, Auburn Fan!)
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To: RC one

According to Drudge, Perry’s winning. I am not sure if he’s talking about the same thing, though.


8 posted on 01/03/2012 7:53:14 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: D-fendr
Something interesting in it that I didn’t know:

“Perry is skipping New Hampshire...”


Perry put some effort into New Hampshire, even traveled there recently, and that was dumb as Hell in my view, because neither he, nor Santorum, nor Bachmann is going to do well there. They are wasting money if they are spending any in New Hampshire.
9 posted on 01/03/2012 7:53:48 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Rational Thought; Cincinatus' Wife; Oceander

Of possible interest.


10 posted on 01/03/2012 7:57:51 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Ronin
According to Drudge, Perry’s winning. I am not sure if he’s talking about the same thing, though.

The Rick that Drudge is talking about is not Perry.

With 50% of the vote in, Perry is predicted to finish in 5th.
11 posted on 01/03/2012 7:59:12 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: RC one

Have no fear. Romney will not pick up a single point from the people who support Perry, Bachman, or Paul. They will all be gone eventually, and they will line up behind Newt in all likelihood.
I just dont see the infrastructure needed for Santorum to compete in the south.
And Mittens will never get more than 23%. The more conservatives that drop out tge further Mitt goes behind. Imagine what tonight would have looked like without Perry or Bachman.


12 posted on 01/03/2012 7:59:24 PM PST by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Clump

Given Romney’s capital resources, his beltway support, and his campaign infrastructure, I see a very clear path to victory for him despite the fact that 75% of the Republican party has consistently not supported him. Money talks and he has plenty to speak with.


13 posted on 01/03/2012 8:05:08 PM PST by RC one (get ready to hold your nose and vote.)
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To: Rational Thought

well rick will have company in laststandville..newt is that you?


14 posted on 01/03/2012 8:05:48 PM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: af_vet_rr

“Ouch! I feel for my friends who are Perry supporters.”

Same. I like them, I like their candidate, but it seems he said THE wrong thing at THE wrong time to THE wrong audience, and that was that. He has a solid record, and is better than most candidates who call themselves conservative. In less desperate times, he might have had opportunity to recover from a bad start. Not in this cycle, apparently.


15 posted on 01/03/2012 8:06:45 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Rational Thought

Given Rick Perry’s debate performance to date, this might be a blessing in disguise......just sayin’....


16 posted on 01/03/2012 8:07:15 PM PST by Donkey Odious (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Clump

ya those cain supporters really lined up behind newt huh


17 posted on 01/03/2012 8:07:38 PM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: Ronin
" According to Drudge, Perry’s winning. I am not sure if he’s talking about the same thing, though. "

Not sure what Rick your talking about, Drudge's website meant Rick Santorum.

Here is the some of the counties in Iowa's results...
Most counties are reporting Rick Santorum taking most.

Results in Iowa
18 posted on 01/03/2012 8:08:29 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: RC one
It seems like things are falling into place for Romney any way I look at this.

Sadly, I agree.

19 posted on 01/03/2012 8:08:34 PM PST by TChad
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To: RC one

So far, Romney has taken 4 0f the 6 largest Iowa counties (where the money is). Paul has one, and Santorum will probably get one.


20 posted on 01/03/2012 8:09:52 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Rational Thought

Seems to me if he can raise a couple of billion , he might still have a shot at finishing fourth in SC.


21 posted on 01/03/2012 8:17:21 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: org.whodat

Have to admit, you made me laugh....


22 posted on 01/03/2012 8:19:36 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: org.whodat
Seems to me if he can raise a couple of billion , he might still have a shot at finishing fourth in SC.

South Carolinians are smarter than that.

23 posted on 01/03/2012 8:28:29 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Ron Paul interferes with Conservative Republicans who are challenging Romney.


24 posted on 01/03/2012 8:31:44 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Rational Thought

Well. Rick Perry got dealt a bad hand with all the early criticism and mindless accusations coming from the Cain camp. Did they ever apologize? Then he made several campaign blunders on his own. That said, he was and is still the best candidate in the race. Experience matters. Dignity matters. Service to God and country matter. Rick Santorum is but a hat tip to Sarah Palin....and I guess Murdoch. I wonder if it will be the ticket that Murdoch created. Santorum/Palin. And we think we have anything to do with anything.


25 posted on 01/03/2012 8:32:13 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
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To: Rational Thought

So Perry, Bachmann and Huntsman might be gone...Rick is the big winner here.


26 posted on 01/03/2012 8:43:51 PM PST by Mike Darancette (11/06/2012: Starts "Occupy the White House")
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To: Rational Thought

Well I am not going to knock the guy while he is down and out, but I will say, “President Santorum”!!!!!!


27 posted on 01/03/2012 8:44:50 PM PST by napscoordinator (A miracle is happening before our eyes! The ONLY MORAL CONSERVATIVE!!! Rick Santorum 2012!!!!!)
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To: FryingPan101
Then he made several campaign blunders on his own.

Perry's problems were his bad debate performances. Period. He is getting better at them, but first impressions last a long time and it may be too late for him to recover.

28 posted on 01/03/2012 8:46:48 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Rational Thought
Perry should stay in. He has a good shot to catch fire. He would be a much better choice than Romney.
29 posted on 01/03/2012 8:46:56 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Ronin

According to Drudge, Perry’s winning. I am not sure if he’s talking about the same thing, though.

lol. I would love to know what they are talking about.


30 posted on 01/03/2012 8:59:35 PM PST by napscoordinator (A miracle is happening before our eyes! The ONLY MORAL CONSERVATIVE!!! Rick Santorum 2012!!!!!)
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To: af_vet_rr

because neither he, nor Santorum, nor Bachmann is going to do well there.

Santorum will come in third. And then President Santorum will win SC and FL.


31 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:58 PM PST by napscoordinator (A miracle is happening before our eyes! The ONLY MORAL CONSERVATIVE!!! Rick Santorum 2012!!!!!)
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To: FryingPan101

Well. Rick Perry got dealt a bad hand with all the early criticism and mindless accusations coming from the Cain camp.

ROTFLMAO. No Perry lost because of Perry. President Santorum can put Perry as Ambassador of Brazil. I told you folks a long time ago that your support for this loser was not a good idea. Nobody believed me, but I was RIGHT! Go President Santorum!!!!


32 posted on 01/03/2012 9:05:00 PM PST by napscoordinator (A miracle is happening before our eyes! The ONLY MORAL CONSERVATIVE!!! Rick Santorum 2012!!!!!)
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To: napscoordinator

Ironic. Just this morning on another thread I was wistfully pondering whether Santorum could possibly catch fire.

I blush to admit that although I like his positions, I thought he had a glass jaw and didn’t expect him to stay in long.

But heck, my first two choices were Sarah and Cain. They’re gone, he’s still in fighting. We could definitely do worse.


33 posted on 01/03/2012 9:05:26 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“He would be a much better choice than Romney.”

He would indeed, however unless some of the conservatives drop out, that hands it to Mitt.


34 posted on 01/03/2012 9:07:00 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: napscoordinator

Well, I’ll not vote for any ‘conservative’ who freely spends the taxpayer’s dollar.

Which means no Santorum. His record is just as bad as Bush on spending.

Newt, at least, balanced the budget.

And that means more than any lip service to social causes.


35 posted on 01/03/2012 9:16:25 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

Don’t forget he also endorsed Arlin Spector. who was the 60th vote for closure on Obama care.

I might give him a pass, I’d take him over Paul or Romney..

This sucks. I can’t really get behind any of them.


36 posted on 01/03/2012 9:23:20 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: napscoordinator

ROTFLMAO. No Perry lost because of Perry. President Santorum can put Perry as Ambassador of Brazil. I told you folks a long time ago that your support for this loser was not a good idea. Nobody believed me, but I was RIGHT! Go President Santorum!!!!

Brazil? Really? No wonder you’re always ROTFLYAO .


37 posted on 01/03/2012 10:39:15 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
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To: Clump

I am not sure that Newt can win the SC or FL primaries. His adultery and 3 wives don’t sit well with Southerners. FWIW and as strange as it may seem, Romney will be looked upon favorably for his strong religious convictions and his strong family life. Santorum will be looked upon as a Northerner.

Then again we like grits with everything!


38 posted on 01/03/2012 11:03:24 PM PST by not2worry
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To: Clump

I am not sure that Newt can win the SC or FL primaries. His adultery and 3 wives don’t sit well with Southerners. FWIW and as strange as it may seem, Romney will be looked upon favorably for his strong religious convictions and his strong family life. Santorum will be looked upon as a Northerner.

Then again we like grits with everything!


39 posted on 01/03/2012 11:03:28 PM PST by not2worry
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To: FryingPan101

Brazil? Really? No wonder you’re always ROTFLYAO .

Well I wanted him somewhere comfortable. He would rather Mexico but I thought somewhere in South America would be better and I didn’t want to insult the poor guy by saying Venezuela. I don’t knock a guy when he is down.


40 posted on 01/03/2012 11:04:15 PM PST by napscoordinator (President Santorum is our future! A miracle is happening before our eyes!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“Perry should stay in. He has a good shot to catch fire. He would be a much better choice than Romney.”

I’d like Perry to stay in too-but I also believe he will do what he believes is best for the conservative movement. If he doesn’t see a path to victory, then he may conclude he is only fracturing the anti-Romney vote. I truly believe that Perry, like Newt, is more motivated to bring down Romney, and is not as concerned if he is the one to do it or not. So whatever Perry decides, it will be after much prayer and consideration, and he will be seeking to follow God’s direction.


41 posted on 01/03/2012 11:15:55 PM PST by lquist1
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