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South Carolina Is Rick Santorumís Best Hope And A Must-Win
IBD's Capital Hill ^ | 1/4/2012 | Ed Carson

Posted on 01/04/2012 5:16:30 AM PST by Slyscribe

Rick Santorum had the good fortune to surge right into Tuesday’s Iowa caucuses, where he virtually tied Mitt Romney.

Several other GOP candidates, including Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich, have risen to the top of the polls only to fall quickly to earth. Even if the ex-Pennsylvania senator can avoid implosion, he still faces a daunting road to the nomination.

Romney has a nationwide campaign with lots of cash. Many early contests appear to favor him.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: caucus; iowa; romney; santorum

1 posted on 01/04/2012 5:16:37 AM PST by Slyscribe
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To: Slyscribe

Romney will destroy Santorum. He wil disavow what his Super PACs put out, but it will happen.


2 posted on 01/04/2012 5:18:58 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

[Romney will destroy Santorum.]

A liberal lie that rinos love to say but is a lie nevertheless. Santorum is a conservative, Romney is a liberal rino to the right of Bush and the American collapse will continue under the rino fools who trust him.


3 posted on 01/04/2012 5:22:50 AM PST by kindred (wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ ...)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Iowa was Santorum’s best hope, and he was not quite able to pull it off. Nice showing, though.

If Rick could not win Iowa, where he has lived for two years and met every voter, where is he going to win? He won’t have two years to spend in each state. Iowa is his high water mark.

Even Huckabee actually defeated Romney in Iowa, and quite handily, too. Santorum underperformed Huckabee while relying almost exclusively on Huckabee voters, endorsements, and staff. Where else will he do better, especially now that he’ll have the bullseye on his back?


4 posted on 01/04/2012 5:24:51 AM PST by TitansAFC (Mitt Romney gets less bang for the buck than John-Freaking-Huntsman.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

True. And if Bishop Romney is not the RINO GOP candidate,
Team Romney will throw the Election, as they have
in 2008, 2010 (in select sites by Rove), and
probably, many, many other times.


5 posted on 01/04/2012 5:25:01 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: kindred
A liberal lie that rinos love to say but is a lie nevertheless.

I despise Romney. But the fact remains that Santorum will be destroyed before South Carolina.

The establishment Republicans are crowning Romney in another "its his turn" primary.....which is a mistake.

6 posted on 01/04/2012 5:25:16 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi
Romney got a lower percentage in Iowa in 2012 than in 2008. Despite having been the proclaimed 'electable' frontrunner for three years.

All Romney can do now is try to flush Santorum, but Newt is waiting in the wings if that happens. It is clear from Newt's speech last night that he and Santorum will double-team Romney, and that gives Santorum a very good opportunity to stay on the high road while Newt savages Mitt.

We will see what happens. I think your pessimism has some basis in recent history, but the dynamic has changed now.

7 posted on 01/04/2012 5:29:47 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Erik Latranyi

Romney will not turn his guns on Santorum until and unless Gingrich quits the race.

Classic divide and conquer.

Newt threatens Romney, Rick doesn’t.


8 posted on 01/04/2012 5:30:19 AM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC AND THE MEDIA: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Romney will destroy Santorum. He wil disavow what his Super PACs put out, but it will happen.

I'm sure he will but I'm not so sure that the destruction will happen very soon. Here's why:

Romney is set to lose to Gingrich in SC and perhaps in FL as well. What he needs is a strong conservative opponent in the race to split the conservative vote. Conveniently Santorum shows up right on schedule. So the Romney team will be running their SC and FL simulations with a strong, untouched Santorum and a beaten down Santorum to see what their best strategy is. I'm betting the strong, untouched version is better for the Romney team. If so, they will go lightly on the near winner of the Iowa caucus - for awhile.

9 posted on 01/04/2012 5:30:50 AM PST by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I’ve been thinking, wouldn’t it be smarter for Romney to ignore Santorum, and let the anti-Romney vote continue to be split among the remaining candidates? After all, that tactic worked pretty well for McCain.


10 posted on 01/04/2012 5:31:23 AM PST by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Slyscribe

Ugh, I can’t stomach the thought of Romney. Seems like an OK guy but wishy washy. The global elites will eat him for lunch. May as well let the country collapse under Odingo’s watch.


11 posted on 01/04/2012 5:34:57 AM PST by riri
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To: TitansAFC

You are quite correct.

Santorum can’t spend months in the other 56 states, and now will have to project a persona that won’t be based on visiting coffee shops and state fairs. That means offensive postures at debates, and attack ads.

He hasn’t before. Romney-crats will most assuredly do so to him.


12 posted on 01/04/2012 5:36:27 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: VanDeKoik
I do think that Romney can push the negative attacks too far and eventually cause average voters to reject the pattern of destruction.

Question is...will it happen in time? It will be interesting to watch how bloody Romney is willing to get.

13 posted on 01/04/2012 5:44:43 AM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Hell its always their turn. And they keep shoving losers down the partys throat.


14 posted on 01/04/2012 5:44:48 AM PST by sarge83
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To: TitansAFC

“Iowa was Santorum’s best hope, and he was not quite able to pull it off. Nice showing, though.”

Believe me, Santorum is far more appealing than Plastic Mitt to most of us SC voters. With Perry dropping out, he should pick up the majority of his voters. I wish Bachmann would cease cluttering the field as well. We’ll see how the publicity goes, but a lot of people seem to actually be paying attention this election cycle.

What I’d love is for some nice dirt to come out on Romney...that would turn the tide pretty quick I think.

While some feel Santorum has electability issues versus 0, I’m not in that camp. He’s young enough to be appealing, and on the issues he’ll kill 0. In the debates he should do fine as well.

I think I may have to get involved in some last minute campaigning for Santorum.


15 posted on 01/04/2012 5:48:44 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!)
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To: Yankee; InterceptPoint
I'm sure he will but I'm not so sure that the destruction will happen very soon.

I understand your points....and they are very good, however, Santorum is untarnished yet. Romney cannot afford to allow Santorum to gain momentum.

Therefore, if Romney wants Santorum and Gingrich to split the conservative vote, he needs a weaker Santorum.

Therefore, watch Santorum get bloodied up enough (by Romney)so he loses his Iowa momentum.

16 posted on 01/04/2012 5:48:44 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: PreciousLiberty
What I’d love is for some nice dirt to come out on Romney...that would turn the tide pretty quick I think.

His record is not dirt enough?!

17 posted on 01/04/2012 5:50:40 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

Ron Paul will help Romney attack Santorum as well. He launched very effective attacks on Gingrich, and he has already called Santorum a big government liberal. I think Paul is trying to eliminate all the other candidates so that he is the only alternative to Romney.


18 posted on 01/04/2012 5:53:33 AM PST by Aagcobb (I take the Constitution seriously)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“His record is not dirt enough?!”

Apparently not. He won in Iowa, no?


19 posted on 01/04/2012 5:54:52 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!)
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To: kindred

Santorum in my view is another Bush conservative or in others words an establishment progressive. Newt, Paul or even Perry would have been a better choice. Santorum is good on social issues thou, I will give him that.


20 posted on 01/04/2012 5:55:57 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

“Newt, Paul or even Perry would have been a better choice. Santorum is good on social issues thou, I will give him that.”

Newt isn’t particularly credible, and has enough baggage to sink a battleship. I will never forget the image of him sitting on a couch with Nancy Pelegrosi stating his support for the destruction of our economy and global competitiveness.

I actually like most of Paul’s positions, but his stance on America’s military posture is laughable. He should never be Commander in Chief. Further, his newsletter baggage would sink him in the general election.

Perry would actually be fine with me, but he stumbled too badly in the debates and is ending his campaign.

Rick Santorum is actually the last, best hope if you don’t want to watch Plastic Mitt lose to 0. I’m quite convinced that’s the way it’ll go if he’s the nominee. Too many Republicans will be turned off by a quasi-Democrat, flip-flopping Mormon. And yes I think Plastic Mitt’s religion will be a major issue regardless of it being discussed or not. I wouldn’t be too surprised to see 0bama doing some Bible-thumping if Romney’s the candidate... ;-)

By the way, even if Santorum were to lose to 0, I’d rather he be the candidate. At least he’d be articulating conservative positions during the campaign, which might resonate after four more disastrous years of 0.


21 posted on 01/04/2012 6:06:36 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!)
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To: PreciousLiberty
Apparently not. He won in Iowa, no?

Did he?

Romney won by 8 caucus votes by spending millions versus Santorum spending virtually nothing.

Romney received virtually the same number of caucus votes in Iowa as he did in 2008....showing he is not gaining favoritism among Iowans.

Romney received a lower percentage of the caucus vote in Iowa than he did in 2008....supporting the last statement above.

Romney's baggage is continuously holding him at 25%...and that is only from poorly informed Republicans who think Romney is the only electable one left.

22 posted on 01/04/2012 6:07:03 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Slyscribe

I’ve said many times... If not Newt, it will be Romney.

Some may say that Santorum can go all the way. They’re argue: Romney’s glass ceiling is 25 to 30%. Once other Not Romney’s drop out, there will be a coalescing around Santorum. That coalescing could equal 50 to 60% (minus the Paul/Huntsman effect).

But all that assumes that Romney’s glass ceiling stays intact. It probably won’t for many reasons - inevitability factor, media driven perception that only Romney can win or beat Obama, bandwagon effect, and peoples tendency to vote for who you they think is going to win, momentum coming out of the first two states, perception that Santorum doesn’t have the legs to go the distance, etc..

Santorum has 6 days before N.H. and 16 days before S.C. to raise enough money and credible enough organization to compete against Romney. Tall order. However, there are the super PACs and Santorum has one. It could take in large sums of money quickly and be a factor. Still, the odds in this category are not favorable to Santorum.

Santorum damaged Newt and the odds favoring Romney have now gotten much greater.


23 posted on 01/04/2012 6:09:58 AM PST by TBBT
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Romney won by 8 caucus votes by spending millions versus Santorum spending virtually nothing.”

Yet he won, and will likely win in New Hampshire also. The media will spend a lot more time touting the win than pointing out how close it was.

Santorum worked Iowa very hard (and it is a shame he didn’t pull off 9 more votes;), he won’t be able to do anything similar from here on out. Now he’ll be facing the full weight of Romney’s organization and money. Also, the Republican establishment seems set on a Romney nomination.

Rick Santorum has a very steep mountain to climb if he’s to win. I just saw something about a Bachmann announcement, I sure hope she drops out. That would give Santorum a measurable boost, especially if she endorses him.


24 posted on 01/04/2012 6:14:48 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!)
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To: PreciousLiberty
Yet he won, and will likely win in New Hampshire also. The media will spend a lot more time touting the win than pointing out how close it was.

Yet Huckabee won Iowa in 2008 by a massive margin and it resulted in nothing for him.

You overestimate the importance of Iowa and New Hampshire to GOP voters. Both are polluted votes.

25 posted on 01/04/2012 6:17:47 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: TBBT
Santorum damaged Newt

Santorum did no such thing, and Newt said as much in his speech last night.

26 posted on 01/04/2012 6:20:38 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Slyscribe

I saw one Iowa event where the Romney-ites behind him looked like paid emotionless supporters. They were not smiling at all.


27 posted on 01/04/2012 6:25:15 AM PST by RushingWater
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Yet Huckabee won Iowa in 2008 by a massive margin and it resulted in nothing for him.”

I will say that I hope McRomney’s (just saw that handle on another thread, it’s a good one too) Iowa win will work out for him just as Huckabee’s did. =:-D

There is a major difference, though, in that Huckabee was not the anointed one for the last cycle.

We’ll see, and I hope you’re right. I encourage all who can afford it to donate to Santorum’s campaign - he’s going to need big advertising money.


28 posted on 01/04/2012 6:27:50 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!)
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To: TitansAFC
Iowa was Santorum’s best hope, and he was not quite able to pull it off. Nice showing, though.

Does Santorum have an uphill battle? Absolutely. Will Mitt and the Karl Rove wing of the Republican party put their bullseye towards him? Yup. But the conservative vote was so split up that what Santorum pulled off was nothing short of amazing. The RINOS were unified by Mittens. Now we need to get behind Santorum.

What Karl Rove et al need to understand is that Romney is NOT electable. Whether the Republican machine likes it or not, they need the worker bees of the conservative base. We've let them put out Dole, GWB, and McCain. It's our turn to put somebody out there.

29 posted on 01/04/2012 6:43:53 AM PST by old and tired
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To: Slyscribe

Don’t want to rain on the Santorum parade, but folks should recall that his showing in Iowa mirrored Huckabee’s last time around and we all know what became of Huck — he’s now a talking head on Fox.


30 posted on 01/04/2012 8:00:56 AM PST by varina davis (We grow too soon old and too late smart -- Pennsylvania Dutch adage)
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To: Slyscribe

Santorum is not going to win SC. After practically living in Iowa for a year he could only come in 2nd. He can’t spend that much time anywhere else. He is a good guy but he does not have the national appeal, money or infrastructure. He will probably not even make it to SC. That’s Newt territory.


31 posted on 01/04/2012 8:07:10 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The slimefest is already started.

One of my liberal facebook friends posted up a story claiming that Santorum and his wife had an abortion for Gabriel Michael, instead of a surgery the baby was unable to handle that caused them to have to deliver very prematurely.

This latest attack made me re-think if I should even have this person on my friends list.


32 posted on 01/04/2012 7:34:57 PM PST by spacewarp (Santorum is rising, let the slime fest begin.)
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