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Democrats Are Terrified of Voter ID
Townhall.com ^ | January 4, 2011 | Robert Knight

Posted on 01/04/2012 5:59:43 AM PST by Kaslin

The most consequential election in our lifetime is still 11 months away, but it’s clear from the Obama administration’s order halting South Carolina’s new photo ID law that the Democrats have already brought a gun to the knife fight.

How else to describe this naked assault on the right of a state to create minimal requirements to curb voter fraud?

On Dec. 23, Assistant Attorney General Thomas E. Perez sent a letter ordering South Carolina to stop enforcing its photo ID law. Perez, who heads the Civil Rights division that booted charges against the New Black Panther Party for intimidating voters in Philadelphia in 2008, alleged that South Carolina’s law would disenfranchise thousands of minority voters.

South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson rejected Perez’s math and explained on Fox News why the law is necessary. The state Department of Motor Vehicles audited a state Election Commission report that said 239,333 people were registered to vote but had no photo ID. The DMV found that 37,000 were deceased, more than 90,000 had moved to other states, and others had names not matched to IDs. That left only 27,000 people registered without a photo ID but who could vote by signing an affidavit as to their identity.

Wilson told me by phone on Thursday that he would file a challenge to the order in federal district court in January. Asked whether he felt South Carolina was being singled out, he declined to speculate on motives. However, citing the National Labor Relations Board’s orders to invalidate the voter-approved union card check amendment and to stop a new Boeing plant, and the Justice Department’s suit to halt the immigration law, he said, “there certainly is a pattern of the federal government overreaching into South Carolina.”

Leading Democrats loudly equate recently enacted photo ID legislation as updated versions of Jim Crow laws that once robbed people of their constitutional right to vote simply because of their race. But photo ID laws and other voter integrity measures cover everyone. Like other states, South Carolina provides photo IDs if a person cannot afford one.

The U.S. Constitution empowers the states to enact voting procedures with minimal input from the national government, such as setting the voting age and election days for federal offices. The Fifteenth and Nineteenth amendments ensure that no one is denied the right to vote based on race or sex.

In 1965, Congress passed the Voting Rights Act, which authorizes the U.S. Attorney General or a three-judge panel of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to review changes to voting procedures or redistricting in nine states (Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia), some counties in California, Florida, New York, North Carolina and South Dakota, and some townships in Michigan and New Hampshire.

Congress did so to counter clearly established patterns of voter intimidation of blacks. Now, the Justice Department, which, under Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr. could be renamed the Retribution Department, looks the other way depending on the race of the parties involved.

In 2008, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld Indiana’s 2005 photo ID law, which the Democratic Party and several interest groups had challenged as a “severe burden.” But, as American Civil Rights Union attorney Peter Ferrara noted in the ACRU’s friend of the court brief:

“No one has been denied the right to vote by the Indiana Voter ID Law. The record clearly establishes without challenge that 99% of the Voting Age Population in Indiana already has the required ID, in the form of driver’s licenses, passports, or other identification. Of the remaining 1%, senior citizens and the disabled are automatically eligible to vote by absentee ballot, and such absentee voting is exempt from the Voter ID Law.”

Does that sound “severe” to you? As Ferrara notes, “the slight burden of additional paperwork for a fraction of 1%, to show who they are and thereby prove their eligibility to vote, cannot come close to outweighing the interests of all legitimate legal voters in maintaining their effective vote.”

In 2005, a bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former U.S. Secretary of State James Baker III found no evidence that requiring photo IDs would suppress the minority vote. The panel recommended a national photo ID system and a campaign to register voters.

In a 2008 column, Mssrs. Carter and Baker cited a study by American University's Center for Democracy and Election Management that echoed the election commission. Among other things, researchers found that in three states— Indiana, Mississippi and Maryland — about 1.2 percent of registered voters had no photo ID.

The Obama Administration is playing the same race card that Democrats have played for decades. But this is not about race; it’s about whether legitimately cast votes will be wiped out by illegally cast votes.

In Chicago, a federal investigation of the 1982 gubernatorial election estimated that at least 100,000 illegal votes had been cast and that voter fraud had been routine for many years. In 1960, Mayor Richard J. Daley’s Chicago Democrat machine almost certainly sealed John F. Kennedy’s presidential election by delaying reporting by Democratically-controlled precincts and counting them for Kennedy.

Republican Richard Nixon had a compelling case for a challenge, but chose not to do so. The media would have crucified him as a sore loser without seriously investigating fraud allegations.

Conversely, in 2000, when Democrat Al Gore challenged George W. Bush’s razor-thin victory in Florida, the media flogged Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris because she refused to overlook “hanging chads” and other questionable vote-counting.

Since the GOP took a majority of governorships and legislatures in 2010 and continued enacting voting safeguards, you can feel the panic in Democratic strongholds.

The stakes are enormous, and the Obama Administration is quite aware of the danger posed by an aroused electorate on a level playing field.

With the economy in a ditch, their only hope of stemming the conservative tide might be to rig the returns, especially where political machines still prevail.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; democrat; doj; racism; voterfraud; voterid
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1 posted on 01/04/2012 5:59:53 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Had argument with recent college grads who didn’t believe it was possible to vote without photo ID, so they didn’t see anything wrong with fraudulent voter registration.....thought it was just another form of protest.....
At that time there were 17 states not requiring photo ID.


2 posted on 01/04/2012 6:02:58 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: Kaslin

The morally evil depraved democrats hate fair elections as all conservatives know.


3 posted on 01/04/2012 6:03:01 AM PST by kindred (wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ ...)
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To: Kaslin

Voter ID IS a big step toward real democracy and decency !

Some, the RATS and RINOS, don’t want it....It’s about time to make that step !


4 posted on 01/04/2012 6:03:42 AM PST by Ulysse (a)
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To: Kaslin
"Democrats Are Terrified of Voter ID" Understatement!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5 posted on 01/04/2012 6:04:30 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Kaslin
"Democrats Are Terrified of Voter ID"

You betcha! Without massive voter fraud, they can't get elected.

6 posted on 01/04/2012 6:04:35 AM PST by Savage Beast (The Democrat Party: The Party of Slavery, Jim Crow, the KKK, Segration, and Lynching)
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To: Kaslin

ping


7 posted on 01/04/2012 6:05:22 AM PST by ducttape45
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To: G Larry

[recent college grads who didn’t believe it was possible to vote without photo ID, so they didn’t see anything wrong with fraudulent voter registration.....thought it was just another form of protest.....]

You see the results of evil NEA teachers and unions destroying and twisting the minds of mushminded children in the depraved communist run public school systems then?


8 posted on 01/04/2012 6:06:23 AM PST by kindred (wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ ...)
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To: G Larry

You can vote in Ohio without a photo ID. Even the GOP Secretary of State fought the state legislature to not require it in state elections.


9 posted on 01/04/2012 6:07:00 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Kaslin

the TRAITORS known as Deomcrats cannot win an election without voter fraud and they know it.

The Dems can then not order you to pay for their union scams where some of the money goes back to the Dem Party.

The Dems can then not control the EPA to shut down coal powered electric plants and drive your rates through the roof.

The Dems can then not load up the social welfare rolls so they have more Dem voters.

The CHIEF DEM playing socialist black liberation crap can not continue to load Muslims into this country. Our first Muslim President wants sharia law just like he helped bring on in Libya and Egypt. And it’s important to continue to attack Israel at every opportunity.

But you can’t understand what and WHY is happening until you understand Obama’s Muslim roots and his supporters. You don’t really believe Wall Street gave this clown $Hundreds of Millions, do you?


10 posted on 01/04/2012 6:09:20 AM PST by politicianslie (plug in RADICAL MUSLIM into Obama's idiotic actions and you can figure out his next moves)
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To: Savage Beast

Texas law took effect this year, photo ID required for voting.
Free ID is available for those poor people, yet the democRATS will still complain.
I say bring it on Holder, we in TX await the challenge!


11 posted on 01/04/2012 6:10:57 AM PST by 9422WMR
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To: Kaslin

Have them show a valid Sosha Security card. Everyone should have one one those.


12 posted on 01/04/2012 6:11:20 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Kaslin

meanwhile..South of the Border...

The Mexicans don’t mess around with “voter fraud”

.here’s how they deal with voter fraud issues south of the border....and ..its all you need to know about the treasonous, malignant American Left....

“...the Mexican Voter I.D. card has NINE security characteristics, including a fingerprint, a photograph, watermarks and holograms. What is more, in Mexico, the lists of electors that are distributed to political parties include the photo and the full name and address of the electors.”

http://www.electionsquebec.qc.ca/english/news-detail.php?id=609


13 posted on 01/04/2012 6:14:21 AM PST by mo
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To: Kaslin

Reason #3866 to ensure Obama is defeated in 2012!!!!

While the accessory to murder suspect, Eric Holder, will block many states this cycle, a GOP DOJ will support such efforts at the SCOTUS.

Once Voter ID is in place, we can minimize liberal malfeasance in future elections.


14 posted on 01/04/2012 6:14:22 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: G Larry

I want to know how often voter lists are purged. Are they created from tax lists? Only voter registration? I notified my original place of registration that I had moved, and I was the first one to ever do that. How many district lists are current?


15 posted on 01/04/2012 6:14:41 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Kaslin

The two big problems with Voter ID (from the left POV) is that their target population signs up with Motor Voter, then moves frequently, so the address on the ID does not match the voter registration. When this guy shows up, he can’t vote. A transient population does not keep up with matching ID with voter registration.

The other problem is the college student vote. The kids have ID from their home state and might vote by absentee, but if we apply the picture ID strictly, can’t vote in their college town because they have no ID there. All the stuff the profs stuff into those mushy skulls would be wasted.

If the kids update their ID, the car insurance folks step in and whack them with increased fees, since the car is not in Lomita, CA after all, but is in downtown Cambridge, MA.


16 posted on 01/04/2012 6:15:58 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Kaslin

If voter ID became the law of the land, the commie ‘RATS would never win another election. It Takes Voter Fraud to Elect A ‘RAT.


17 posted on 01/04/2012 6:24:32 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed!!!!!)
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To: Kaslin
Perez...alleged that South Carolina’s law would disenfranchise thousands of minority voters.

How?...exactly? I read that South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson rejected Perez’s math but what exactly is the math that Perez is using? How does he come to a logical conclusion that a voter ID law will disenfranchise thousands of minority voters but not a single white voter? I'd really like to know. Is this asshat's written decision available online?

18 posted on 01/04/2012 6:30:49 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Some folks need an education...don't give up or we'll lose the Nation - Grand Funk Railroad)
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To: Kaslin
239,333 people were registered to vote but had no photo ID. The DMV found that 37,000 were deceased, more than 90,000 had moved to other states, and others had names not matched to IDs. That left only 27,000 people registered without a photo ID but who could vote by signing an affidavit as to their identity.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.....

The potential existed for 239,333 fraudulent ballots to be cast. Dunno how many people vote in SC, but that's easily enough to swing most elections.

Just the fact that most Dems are against voter fraud, says to me that it's probably a good idea.

19 posted on 01/04/2012 6:32:37 AM PST by wbill
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To: mo

Mexico’s laws go further than that. Foreign nationals are prohibited from becoming involved in political activities (including protests); such activities result in deportation.


20 posted on 01/04/2012 6:33:23 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Libloather; Kaslin

“should have” a social security card...but do they? If they don’t work, they probably figure they don’t need one. But, it would be too, too much to demand a social security card, besides, the person could say “the privacy act forbids you seeing my SSN and thus my SS card.”


21 posted on 01/04/2012 6:36:05 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Kaslin

Unions fight voter ID on behalf of their bought-and-paid-for Democrat party, but require photo ID for union elections...


22 posted on 01/04/2012 6:36:19 AM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: DBrow
The other problem is the college student vote. The kids have ID from their home state and might vote by absentee, but if we apply the picture ID strictly, can’t vote in their college town because they have no ID there.

Hmmm... raise the voting age to 21 and much of that problem would be taken care of.

23 posted on 01/04/2012 6:47:09 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: Libloather
Have them show a valid Sosha Security card. Everyone should have one one those.

Obama's so important he's got five of them.

24 posted on 01/04/2012 6:51:06 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Kaslin
no evidence that requiring photo IDs would suppress the minority vote

I'd say this is a flat out lie. Requiring photo IDs would severely suppress the minority vote. It wouldn't suppress the LEGITIMATE minority vote, but it would suppress the minority vote.

25 posted on 01/04/2012 6:51:59 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: G Larry
At that time there were 17 states not requiring photo ID.

From that statement, I infer that there are or were 33 states that do require it and if that's so, why is the fed gov going after South Carolina?

26 posted on 01/04/2012 6:53:02 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Kaslin

Here in deep-blue Connecticut, we’ve had voter ID for many many years.

Why isn’t the Obama administration going after Connecticut?

A: Because it is a DEM “safe” state.


27 posted on 01/04/2012 6:55:30 AM PST by kidd
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To: Kaslin

Why would a prominent, national party be opposed to a law, voter photo IDs, that would decrease voter fraud? That same party that doesn’t question the right of authorities and business concerns to ask for photo IDs in many other transactions and procedures. I think we know the answer.


28 posted on 01/04/2012 7:04:12 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Yes we do know the answer, and it is obvious


29 posted on 01/04/2012 7:07:54 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Yep my SS card says “not to be used for identification” all the new ones don’t. Our legislature in NC tried to pass a bill but the Dem Gov vetoed it. In this state even the handicapped have to have a photo id to get benefits, but when it comes to voting a worker at a group home can take 6 of them to the polls and fill out the forms for them. I actually saw a “dead woman” vote in the last election. A person brought her out of a rest home and I swear she must have been over 100. While the elderly woman sucked air, pissed herself and stared off into space her “helper” voted for zero. My opinion, if you can’t produce a photo ID you shouldn’t vote. Even that doesn’t guarantee you’re not a village idiot! I am disenfranchised because I am a white “Anglo Saxon male”. I’m ready to file a law-suit. Anyone want to join me????? Oh I forget, it’s ok to piss on me and get away with it.


30 posted on 01/04/2012 7:08:17 AM PST by Ab Alius Domitor ("In the end; the winner")
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To: Kaslin

The objections are of the “yes, but” variety. Yes, an officially recognized form of ID is a prerequisite. But the process of obtaining that officially recognized form of ID are “too intimidating” for persons of such low self-esteem they cannot bear to carry a picture of themselves in their wallet.

Yes, the need to keep fraud at a minimum is agreed to in principle. But the agenda of the Democrat minority in this country cannot hope to compete with the much more fact-based and relatively logical program presented by the (more conservative) Republicans, and to overcome this disadvantage, it is essential for the Democrats that the “right kind” of voters get to the polls, and that may involve getting persons without verifiable authority to cast a ballot in favor of their promises.


31 posted on 01/04/2012 7:22:32 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: Kaslin

This notion of abolishing voter id is straight out of the Idi Amin playbook. bo and holder are simply following his rules. Ask yourself how many nations, cities run by africans are not full of corruption and crime. It is the culture.


32 posted on 01/04/2012 7:24:03 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Kaslin

anything the democrats don’t like is a poorf it’s a good thing.


33 posted on 01/04/2012 7:32:46 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Kaslin

Anything the democrats don’t like is a proof it’s a good thing.


34 posted on 01/04/2012 7:33:12 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: G Larry

TN is one of the states who requires for the first time a photo ID. I have a voter registration card which has my ss number, my voter registration # and my name and address. It lists my voting precinct and location, county district, city ward, school district, State House, US Senate and the date when I registered which was December 27, 1979. The clerk always asked me if my address is still the same. She then checked on the computer, gave me a paper to sign and mark for what party I was going to vote (primary election)and then send me on with the instruction to give the paper to the helper? I never had to show my drivers license. Since my drivers license does not have a picture on it, I’ll show my military Dependent ID card. (Here in TN a photo is not necessary from age 60 on.)


35 posted on 01/04/2012 7:33:17 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
I forgot to add that a photo is not necessary on a TN drivers license after age 60
36 posted on 01/04/2012 7:36:09 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Neoliberalnot

How can you hold a meaningful election if voters need not prove who they are and that they are eligible to vote. Sounds like something a third world country would sanction, Pardon me
the US is struggling to become a third world country. Obama will see to that and when he does you won’t need elections, Castro Doesn’t.


37 posted on 01/04/2012 7:41:31 AM PST by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: Libloather

Having a valid social security card is no proof that you are a citizen and therefore eligible to vote. I am a naturalized citizen, and I got my social security card and my TN drivers license when I was a legal resident. I showed my green card and my military dependent ID card. I would not dream of voting before I became a citizen.


38 posted on 01/04/2012 7:55:32 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

On the back of the california drivers license.. it say..this license is issued as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish elegibility for employment,voter registration, or public benefits...


39 posted on 01/04/2012 7:55:45 AM PST by JoanneSD (TEA PARTY VERSES TEE TIME)
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To: Graybeard58

“...so, why is the fed gov going after South Carolina?”

Truth - To ensure ability to commit vote fraud.

Holder’s Excuse - “S.C. has a history of disenfranchisement...”


40 posted on 01/04/2012 7:58:32 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: huldah1776

I would suspect that voter registration lists are not purged often enough.

I would advocate a system whereby the list is purged regularly and you have to re-register to vote if you skip a November election.

Most precincts know who has voted — their names are checked off — so it would be very easy for a computer to identify voters who haven’t voted in the last x elections and automatically purge them from the rolls and send them a notice telling them they need to re-register.

It would do a lot of good as the deceased would drop off fairly quickly while those who have moved away would have their names dropped.

My wife and I moved from Virginia to Texas, my parents a few years earlier. I bet my name is still on a few voter rolls in Fairfax and Loudoun counties, possibly still on Faquier county.

I also support having to register by going to an actual voter registration office. I do not like the register at the motor vehicle department as an afterthought to registering your driving license.


41 posted on 01/04/2012 8:00:32 AM PST by Crolis ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." -GKC)
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To: Libloather

Ya need to look at your SS card. See your photo on it? NO! It is not a recognize form of ID anywhere.


42 posted on 01/04/2012 8:03:08 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: Libloather
No picture on a SSI card.........

Besides that....illegal aliens have SSI cards.

43 posted on 01/04/2012 8:10:28 AM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Kaslin
Requiring voter ID to vote means the RATs can't cheat to stuff the ballot box and they don't like that,
44 posted on 01/04/2012 8:12:25 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Cowman

Raise the voting age to 35 and even more atrocities would be eliminated!


45 posted on 01/04/2012 8:38:22 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Kaslin
On the one hand, our federal justice department wants to prohibit states from requiring photo ids. On the other, they support and enforce the federal TSA requirements that travellers be required to show photo ids to get on airplanes.

If this isn't selective and completely inconsistent interpretation of all our laws out there, nothing is.

What would be the reaction if states got together with ballot initiatives to prohibit the feds or anyone else from requiring photo ids for air travel, or for credit card purchases, or any other commerce transaction? If the anonymous voters could vote in such initiatives, what would holder do?

Would the public understand the issue better once individuals suffer from the inevitable and massive fraud that would result?

If the government enforces laws against fraud in the marketplace, how can anyone accept that the potential for voter fraud is actually more important to us as a society than preventing fraud in transactions of commerce?

46 posted on 01/04/2012 9:05:22 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (OBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: Comparative Advantage
You can vote in Ohio without a photo ID. Even the GOP Secretary of State fought the state legislature to not require it in state elections.

I live in Ohio, and last time I voted they checked my photo ID first. I thanked them.

47 posted on 01/04/2012 9:58:33 AM PST by Kenton
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To: Kaslin
The big issue for the Democrats is the illegal alien vote.

Illegal aliens are much more liable to vote if it is easy, requires no identity verification or potential scrutiny of their immigration status in the US.

An illegal getting caught voting illegally is both a felony and a cause for deportation. It is hard to induce the vast number of illegals to vote if they have to put themselves up for scrutiny and risk getting caught voting illegally.

In areas where there is a large number of illegals voting is really easy for poll watchers to follow up on suspicious voters who they suspect of voter fraud if they ID to document residence and other issues.

Obama is absolutely counting on inducing large numbers of illegals to vote illegally for him.

Obama can't win re election without the illegal alien vote which is why he has been pandering to the illegal alien voters and his Justice Department is trying so hard to prevent any immigration law enforcement.

48 posted on 01/04/2012 9:58:46 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: greyfox

How can you hold a meaningful election if voters need not prove who they are and that they are eligible to vote. Sounds like something a third world country would sanction, Pardon me””

That is exactly the point, you can’t have valid elections without voter id. And those who count the votes decide the winners. Bo’s intentions rest with taking down the US. Name one positive thing he has done, just one?


49 posted on 01/04/2012 10:29:18 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Kenton

Our precinct does too but they cannot require you to produce one in Ohio. A utility that you found in someone’s garbage can is good enough, though.


50 posted on 01/04/2012 11:05:43 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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