Skip to comments.Air Force Will Lose Hundreds of Planes in New Pentagon Plan
Posted on 01/04/2012 10:44:18 AM PST by Nachum
The Air Force is preparing to trim hundreds of aircraft from its aging fleet in order to meet an Obama administration austerity order. The move will strike many Air Force supporters as ironic. Because just as the fleet is set to shrink, Defense Secretary ...
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I hope they drag their heels on this until the Makers of America can overcome the Takers and get this SOB out of office.
In his book “Augustine’s Laws”, former Lockheed-Martin CEO Norm Augustine predicted that by 2050, the US Military will have one fighter plane shared by all the Services. It was a tongue-in-cheek prediction back in the 80s, but its probably not too far off. Like Europe, we will slowly dismantle our military to pay for the Welfare state.
Let’s start with AIR FARCE ONE and the 757 Pelousy used!
Should save a bundle.
This should eventually work out good. If they get rid of aging aircraft, then as soon as we get a pro-military administration back in office, we can build new aircraft. I imagine this would create a lot of economic stimulus.
I nominate Air Force One & Air Force Two as the first 2 planes eliminated.
And just like NASA, we'll probably have to lease that from the Russians.
Let me get this straight - spending hundreds of billions on illegal wars that we don’t really try to win so that it drags out for years is legitimate spending, but updating our fleet of aircraft so that we can defend ourselves in case we are attacked is not worth it.
What illegal wars?
“Let me get this straight - spending hundreds of billions on illegal wars that we dont really try to win so that it drags out for years is legitimate spending, but updating our fleet of aircraft so that we can defend ourselves in case we are attacked is not worth it.”
Yes. Very Versailles, non? I swear, this period in America is like France, ca. 1788.
If we were trying to defend ourselves we would get rid of radical muslims in this country and close the borders. Instead we try to nation build over there giving the blood of our soldiers for people who not just want us dead but want to kill each other.
We do not need the oil in the middle east. We can drill here, support ourselves, build up our military and build a strong missile defense system and encourage American business to export and kick the butts of anyone who messes with us.
OK off my soapbox now.
Thank you for the post. Very helpful.
Thank you for your post; very helpful to a tired old watcher.
This is a listing of the aircraft the USAF currently flies
Attack A-10, AC-130
Bomber B-52H, B-1B, B-2
Electronic Warfare E-3, E-8, EC-130
Fighter F-15C, F-15E, F-16, F-22
Helicopter UH-1N, HH-60
Cargo helicopter CV-22
Reconnaissance U-2, RC-135, RQ/MQ-1, RQ-4, RQ-170
Trainer T-6, T-38, T-1, TG-10
Transport C-130, C-135, KC-135, C-5, C-9, KC-10, C-17, VC-25, C-32, C-37, C-21, C-12, C-40.
How many redundancies can you think of? Now, each aircraft has it’s own specialized components - very few parts are interchangeable between aircraft (as they are made by numerous manufacturers). For example, how many general purpose Jet Trainers do we really need to support? How many Cargo planes do we need to support?
How many transports do you think we need to service? How many of these are simply obsolete and time to scrap. Each one requires teams for logistics, maintenance, mechanics, repair depots, customized proceedures, custom test processes; it’s really amazing that the USAF can even begin to manage these programs efficiently.
Now, I’m no expert as to what should be cut - I’ll leave that to the leadership of the USAF to pick and chose; but there is no point in spending Bazillions flying museaum pieces. How about dumping the obsolete geezers, and using that money to upgrade and design new, better and more mission capable assets?
“OK off my soapbox now.”
Hey, now - don’t go putting it away where you can’t get to it.
Far better idea would be to abolish and severely cut back numerous Federal agencies that do nothing useful but serve as jobs programs for eco-freaks, liberal Democrats, socialists and America haters. Start by getting rid of the EPA, Department of Education, EEOC, severely cut back Department of Energy.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt this administration continuing to slash military budgets, significantly cut down the sizes or the Army, Navy, Coast Guard, Marines, National Guard and reduce amount of equipment they have ? Or am I mistaken ? I wonder about the extent the military supports this administration and to what extent the members of our military like Obama and his views
You’re right. We should bring the troops home and send them house to house to route out all the Muslims in our country and detain them. Then we can assign someone to determine which ones are radical and execute them.
Eliminate 500,000 civilian jobs in the federal government first.
So how will the services share? Air Force on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Navy on Tuesday and Thursday. Marines on weekends. Most on it's flight time will be ferrying it to next duty stations.
Thats crazy talk.
Guns versus butter. It is the norm for empires in decline, especially ones that have a welfare state. The collapse of the welfare state forces government to choose between keeping the welfare state going a little longer and maintaining a strong military. Usually, the former wins because it has more constituents. When you borrow 40 cents of every dollar spent and you are spending $1.3 trillion more than you take in, then you to start cutting back eventually.
LOL. That’s a good one. You left off the sarcasm tag. Where the hell is the money going to come from to maintain what we have let alone have enough to build new aircraft? This country is bankrupt and going further into debt every day. In a decade, debt servicing costs alone will approach $1 trillion annually.
Obsolete Geezer Airplanes ?? Ask WHY we still have truly ancient jets, like the B-52 and the KC-135, both of which are in excess of 50-year-old designs ?
Simple: the need for the capability has not gone away, but previous “savings” prevented their replacement. And since the Ear Leader isn’t going to build new jets. . .
The B-52 and the KC-135 are both great aircraft. The B-52 will be nearly 95 yrs old when we finally retire it. For long range, high altitude bombing - the B-52 has passed the test of time. For re-fueling, really there is no replacment for the KC-135 that I’m aware of (which I freely admit, isn’t saying a lot). As I indicated earlier, I make no claim of expertise in this area.
However, do we still need to maintain the U-2? How many different jet trainers do we need? C-5, C-10, KC-10 and C-32? That many Cargo aircraft? Seriously, how many different type of Cargo aircraft do we need to support? Simply stated, we don’t “NEED” every type of aircraft we have. There is plenty of over-lap and redundancy. A wise person would check the stats on how many of each do we have, their failure records (why fix lemons?) and if we scrap ‘x’ of one aircraft, can we buy more of a better upgrade?
Did you read the first line of #14? That’s my response to a crazy statement.
Can this Muslim Communist be impeached and tried for treason?
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but,I think that you are in for a long wait. The Republican Party shares the Democrat Party view that there is no crisis. Both political parties are content to continue printing paper and calling it money, increase taxes, and regulate businesses and industries out of existence. All either poitical party wants to do is increase their power and control and the Country be dammed.And the sheep say, “Just make me feel secure.”
We have got to get this man out of the White House before he wrecks everything. In the next year, he can decimate the military, take away certain freedoms, provide for abortions, make a joke of our legal system, and much, much more. Simply put, he is wrecking America.
Do you have any source I can link to with that?