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Air Force Will Lose Hundreds of Planes in New Pentagon Plan
Njuice.com ^ | 1/4/12 | Wired

Posted on 01/04/2012 10:44:18 AM PST by Nachum

The Air Force is preparing to trim hundreds of aircraft from its aging fleet in order to meet an Obama administration austerity order. The move will strike many Air Force supporters as ironic. Because just as the fleet is set to shrink, Defense Secretary ...

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1 posted on 01/04/2012 10:44:24 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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2 posted on 01/04/2012 10:45:17 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

And?


3 posted on 01/04/2012 10:48:40 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: Nachum

I hope they drag their heels on this until the Makers of America can overcome the Takers and get this SOB out of office.


4 posted on 01/04/2012 10:48:40 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Nachum

In his book “Augustine’s Laws”, former Lockheed-Martin CEO Norm Augustine predicted that by 2050, the US Military will have one fighter plane shared by all the Services. It was a tongue-in-cheek prediction back in the 80s, but its probably not too far off. Like Europe, we will slowly dismantle our military to pay for the Welfare state.


5 posted on 01/04/2012 10:49:14 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Nachum

Let’s start with AIR FARCE ONE and the 757 Pelousy used!

Should save a bundle.


6 posted on 01/04/2012 10:49:19 AM PST by Dick Bachert (Obozo deserves another term: IN LEAVENWORTH. 25 to life sounds about right!)
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To: Nachum

This should eventually work out good. If they get rid of aging aircraft, then as soon as we get a pro-military administration back in office, we can build new aircraft. I imagine this would create a lot of economic stimulus.


7 posted on 01/04/2012 10:52:10 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ping.


8 posted on 01/04/2012 10:53:55 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Nachum

I nominate Air Force One & Air Force Two as the first 2 planes eliminated.


9 posted on 01/04/2012 10:56:47 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: rbg81
by 2050, the US Military will have one fighter plane shared by all the Services.

And just like NASA, we'll probably have to lease that from the Russians.

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10 posted on 01/04/2012 10:59:40 AM PST by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: Nachum

Let me get this straight - spending hundreds of billions on illegal wars that we don’t really try to win so that it drags out for years is legitimate spending, but updating our fleet of aircraft so that we can defend ourselves in case we are attacked is not worth it.


11 posted on 01/04/2012 11:07:48 AM PST by MichaelCorleone
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What illegal wars?


12 posted on 01/04/2012 11:11:20 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: MichaelCorleone

“Let me get this straight - spending hundreds of billions on illegal wars that we don’t really try to win so that it drags out for years is legitimate spending, but updating our fleet of aircraft so that we can defend ourselves in case we are attacked is not worth it.”

Yes. Very Versailles, non? I swear, this period in America is like France, ca. 1788.


13 posted on 01/04/2012 11:12:43 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

If we were trying to defend ourselves we would get rid of radical muslims in this country and close the borders. Instead we try to nation build over there giving the blood of our soldiers for people who not just want us dead but want to kill each other.
We do not need the oil in the middle east. We can drill here, support ourselves, build up our military and build a strong missile defense system and encourage American business to export and kick the butts of anyone who messes with us.
OK off my soapbox now.


14 posted on 01/04/2012 11:16:53 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: rbg81

Thank you for the post. Very helpful.


15 posted on 01/04/2012 11:37:13 AM PST by forest153 ("There's a snake in my boot!")
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To: Nachum

Thank you for your post; very helpful to a tired old watcher.


16 posted on 01/04/2012 11:39:13 AM PST by forest153 ("There's a snake in my boot!")
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To: Nachum

This is a listing of the aircraft the USAF currently flies
Attack A-10, AC-130
Bomber B-52H, B-1B, B-2
Electronic Warfare E-3, E-8, EC-130
Fighter F-15C, F-15E, F-16, F-22
Helicopter UH-1N, HH-60
Cargo helicopter CV-22
Reconnaissance U-2, RC-135, RQ/MQ-1, RQ-4, RQ-170
Trainer T-6, T-38, T-1, TG-10
Transport C-130, C-135, KC-135, C-5, C-9, KC-10, C-17, VC-25, C-32, C-37, C-21, C-12, C-40.

How many redundancies can you think of? Now, each aircraft has it’s own specialized components - very few parts are interchangeable between aircraft (as they are made by numerous manufacturers). For example, how many general purpose Jet Trainers do we really need to support? How many Cargo planes do we need to support?

How many transports do you think we need to service? How many of these are simply obsolete and time to scrap. Each one requires teams for logistics, maintenance, mechanics, repair depots, customized proceedures, custom test processes; it’s really amazing that the USAF can even begin to manage these programs efficiently.

Now, I’m no expert as to what should be cut - I’ll leave that to the leadership of the USAF to pick and chose; but there is no point in spending Bazillions flying museaum pieces. How about dumping the obsolete geezers, and using that money to upgrade and design new, better and more mission capable assets?


17 posted on 01/04/2012 11:39:47 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: formosa

“OK off my soapbox now.”

Hey, now - don’t go putting it away where you can’t get to it.

Colonel, USAFR


18 posted on 01/04/2012 11:45:57 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Nachum

Far better idea would be to abolish and severely cut back numerous Federal agencies that do nothing useful but serve as jobs programs for eco-freaks, liberal Democrats, socialists and America haters. Start by getting rid of the EPA, Department of Education, EEOC, severely cut back Department of Energy.


19 posted on 01/04/2012 11:51:55 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Nachum

Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt this administration continuing to slash military budgets, significantly cut down the sizes or the Army, Navy, Coast Guard, Marines, National Guard and reduce amount of equipment they have ? Or am I mistaken ? I wonder about the extent the military supports this administration and to what extent the members of our military like Obama and his views


20 posted on 01/04/2012 12:00:25 PM PST by emax
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