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Posted on 01/05/2012 6:06:35 AM PST by Mustang Driver
Sarah Palin admonished Republicans not to ridicule Congressman Ron Paul. Sarah Palin is wrong. Ron Paul is a disloyal phony who has earned whatever contempt real Republicans have for him and his dangerously naive ideas about foreign policy. Ron Paul has shunned the party in the past, as he was the Libertarian Party candidate in 1988 and in 2008 he rejected the McCain/Palin ticket, instead embracing Cynthia McKinney and other third-party candidates for president 2008.
Like a kid who is losing a game, Ron Paul took his ball and went home in 2008.
But Missus Palin, sadly, seemed to be unaware of his disloyalty.
In her role as a paid contributor on Fox News, Sarah Palin lectured Neal Cavuto: “Here’s the deal, the GOP would be so remiss to marginalize Ron Paul and his supporters as we come out of Iowa tonight and move down the road to New Hampshire, South Carolina and Florida, et cetera. If we marginalize these supporters who have been touched by Ron Paul and what he believed in over these years, well, then, through a third party run of Ron Paul’s or the Democrats capturing those independents and these libertarians who supported what Ron Paul’s been talking about, well, then the GOP is going to lose. And then there will be no light at the end of the tunnel. So, the worst thing that the GOP machine can do is marginalize Ron Paul and his supporters.”
Here’s the deal, her analysis is simplistic and contrary to the facts. While I do agree that Republicans should embrace Ron Paul’s supporters, the man conducted himself in a less-than-honorable manner.
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Perry’s plan (which he worked out with Steve Forbes) is for a flat tax. It’s a far simpler and better plan than the 9-9-9 which is convoluted and has many flaws and pitfalls.
I don’t know if any, or how many, of the Ron Paul supporters are still sensible enough to vote for a real conservative if Paul falters, but in case a sizable number are, let’s not alienate them.
However, I suspect that many of them will not vote at all if Paul is forced to drop out. They may just retire to their bunkers and accumulate food and weapons.
No, the bill would have ended FEDERAL prohibition. Every single state in this country has prohibition that would *not* go away. A few states have medical exemptions.
If you are against an end to federal prohibition, that’s fine. Just be honest when you post and don’t insinuate dope would have been legal the day after it passed. It still would have been illegal in all 50 states, making it very difficult for the feds to tax.
There is a case to be made that it should be legal at the federal level, but that’s not what you brought up.
“That being said, when are Palin and Herman Cain gonna give it up?”
See my other post on this thread.
Cain is pushing for a radical rewrite of the tax code.
Perry wants a part-time Congress.
Paul wants a radical reduction in federal intervention in all aspects of people’s lives.
Palin is pimping a radical change in who the powerbrokers are in government, shifting from lobby groups pushing self-interest to individual citizens and citizen groups pushing for better government. That’s why Palin, Cain, Perry and Paul are still pushing their ideas while only Perry is in the running. They actually *believe* in what they are doing. Why is that so hard to understand?
Yes, all of these come with negative baggage (mostly Ron Paul and his foolish, anti-American foreign policy, less Sarah Palin who really has little to gain).
“However, I suspect that many of them will not vote at all if Paul is forced to drop out. They may just retire to their bunkers and accumulate food and weapons.”
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Want to see a self-fulfilling prophecy? Have that attitude while supporting Rick Perry. Instead of dropping ad hominems (which may well be accurate), you could actually try by arguing why Perry is a better small government candidate. I’ve even told you I’m leaning Perry. Instead of taking the opportunity to try to make me a supporter, you complain about supporters of another candidate.
There may be a good reason Rick Perry is running behind.
Totally agree with your analysis.
The Dems are artists at dividing the opposition. Last thing we need is that. Pubbie Establishment is a negative factor and if they think the “Tea Party” thing is a fleeting event, they are sorely wrong.
It is TIME to DownSize DC!
Eliminate entire Departments and the subversive Commies jobs that they support. The only way to remove them from their positions of authority is to eliminate the host, ie. the agency (which contribute nothing but chaos).
It’s not about Ron Paul! It’s about winning the votes of the Ron Paul followers that are strongly interested in limited government and adherence to the Constitution.
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Exactly, many of the followers who don’t consider his Foreign Policy and are interested in the economic stuff, should be voting against Obama.
Some of his supporters are part of the anti cronyism sentiment that Palin has identified.
When he loses these voters should feel they have a place to go.
...but I know that our foreign policy at times has been inconsistent, self-serving and less than honorable (especially when a Dimocrat wins the Presidency!) Is it wrong to say that we have contributed to some of the problems in the world that we are now dealing with? FDR's administration was FULL of communists that subverted freedom around the world. We propped up dictators to keep countries from falling to communism at other times.
I don't agree with much of what Ron Paul says about foreign policy, but I agree that it is possible to pick fewer fights around the world and stir up less antagonism against us. We have to realistically deal with the legacy of the past hundred years or so, but we can begin by trying to ratchet down the involvement in other countries' affairs.
I don’t know what your problem is with my posts on this thread.
I agree with Sarah Palin that we should play up the good points of Ron Paul as much as we can without appearing to endorse him.
I’ll have to go back and look and see what I said that turned you off because I don’t want to do that. back in a minute.
Well, I still don’t know what your problem is.
This is not a Perry thread. This is a thread about whether we should cater a little bit to Ron Paul supporters in the hope that some of them are sane enough to move to a conservative if Ron fades.
I’m not ashamed of being a Perry supporter (hence my tagline) but we’re discussing something else here.
It was probably my slam at Herman Cain that offended you.
Herman is not running. He self destructed. Sorry about that if you were a Cain supporter. I tried very hard when he WAS running to avoid criticizing him for the very reason you mentioned. I didn’t want to alienate his worshippers in case of his inevitable downfall - self inflicted, but I can’t see why I shouldn’t say what I think about him now.
If that turns you off of Rick Perry, you’re easily turned off.
This douche Surber is a total Romney-bot.
I certainly did not mean for that statement about “getting all this” to be so abrupt or in your face. My apologies. My issue is this. McCain took on the creepy/dirty establishment GOP Romney workers after Mittens threw in the towel in 08. Then those - Schultz (?) et al trashed Sarah from top to bottom. My gut feeling is that she saw Mittens being shoved in OUR faces and sees the same nasty campaign staff that trashed her, now working for “the chosen one” of the GOP elites. This hacks me off to no end.
As most of us here on FR note - we don’t want the elites to pick our candidate any more. Tired of Dole, McCain, Daddy Bush, etc. No Romney no way. I feel committed to backing him (disgusted as can be) if he wins the nomination. Daddy Bush got into office and undid many of Reagan’s accomplishments. sigh... Tea Party we must - get off our duffs and do something to make this 2012 election a banner year to save our country. Again not really meant for you, as much as some on here that want to get along to get along. argh. Have a nice night.
Don’t worry about it. It’s totally okay.
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