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Newt Gingrich should own up to his mistakes
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 1/5/12 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 01/05/2012 9:44:03 AM PST by SmithL

As the results of the Iowa caucus dribbled in, Americans got to see how the GOP candidates greeted victory and defeat. Top vote-getter Mitt Romney was gracious toward Rick Santorum, who came in second by eight thin votes, but uninspiring as he pledged to get America back to work. Santorum pronounced, "Game on," then hailed his Italian grandfather's decision to leave Italy to dig coal, if that's what it took to bring his family to the United States.

Ron Paul, who came in third, saluted the work of his enthusiastic volunteers and credited his success to his role as a keeper of the flame of limited federal government. Fifth-place finisher Rick Perry told his supporters he would return to Texas to "assess" the race. The next morning, the Lone Star State governor tweeted that he was heading for South Carolina. Having won a disappointing 5 percent of the vote, Michele Bachmann clearly knew she would be leaving the campaign trail, but she had only good words about her Iowa experience.

And then there was Newt Gingrich - whose post-caucus remarks placed him in the Hall of Shame of sore losers. Gingrich, who placed a distant fourth, did praise Santorum for running a "great, positive campaign," but only so that he could throw his Cheerios at Romney and Paul.

The former House speaker had taken to challenging Romney to pull TV spots that lampoon Gingrich. The spots were produced by an independent super political action committee run by Romney supporters. The problem is, it is illegal for a candidate to tell a Super PAC what to do.

The best part: The anti-Gingrich spots have featured Newt in very public venues of his own choosing. No one slinked behind a bush to videotape Gingrich cozying up to Rep. Nancy Pelosi...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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Debra Saunders is the Chronicle's token conservative.
1 posted on 01/05/2012 9:44:10 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

debra saunders is not a conservative..... she is a republican... why all the negative crap about gingrich??? when the libs start to throw a hissy fit, then we know who they are afraid of...... instead of letting them tell us about him, why not just take a look at what he accomplished while in office?


2 posted on 01/05/2012 9:47:18 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: SmithL

****Debra Saunders is the Chronicle’s token conservative***

Correction: Debra Saunders is the Chronicle’s Romney campaign staffer.


3 posted on 01/05/2012 9:47:20 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: SmithL

I like Santorum but it’s gonna take a Newt Gingrich to roll everything back pre FDR.

If we can just get Newt in then the only way that he could be prevented from restoring a constitutional republic is impeachment...he has already indicated he will not be constrained by the courts.

At this late date we require a pissed-off bull in the china shop to fix this mess. I can see no other avenue of escape. Can you?


4 posted on 01/05/2012 9:47:27 AM PST by Bobalu (We cannot afford to bring Mittens to a Newt-fight.)
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To: SmithL

Maybe if Newt could bend over, spank himself, hang himself and be dragged in the street by Coulter, Beck, Fox News, George Will, Mark Steyn, the GOP establishment and others stumping for Romney or Ron Paul, they would stop worrying so much about Newt and losing their credibility in the process.


5 posted on 01/05/2012 9:52:24 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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To: Bobalu
That is real good, real good, here obummer just appointed people outside of the constitution and you are endorsing such action. And noot has never said he would cut one department he wants a ten year glide path, which is another kicking the can and means nothing. You cannot bind furture congresses.
6 posted on 01/05/2012 9:52:58 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: joe fonebone

Just because you have a R after your name does not make you a Republican!


7 posted on 01/05/2012 9:53:29 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: SmithL
What I said here, # 195, regarding Gingrich and the immigration ads.
8 posted on 01/05/2012 9:53:41 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: SmithL

I do believe Gingrich has owned up to past mistakes.


9 posted on 01/05/2012 9:55:04 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SmithL
Newt's fall was not because of the negative ads... his fall started ‘I'm not a lobbyist’... Yes he was, he was a lobbyist for everything from healthcare to ethanol.
10 posted on 01/05/2012 9:56:55 AM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: SmithL

Mistakes?

Oh Debbie, how is that walking on water thing going?

Romney’s positions and that of Newt’s are pretty well known.

One has acted them out and the other has not.

One is opportunist for the purpose of advancement, the other is a serious intellect and strategist whose performance in the past I very much agreed with.

In fact, I had to educate our new local host his 2nd day on the air. He made the unfortunate mistake of Praising Bill Clinton for Welfare Reform, the Balanced Budget and lowered taxes through capital gains tax cut.

Brian Sussman made an unfortunate mistake of trying to give Clinton credit on the one hand while demonstrating his errors on the other.

I called in and thanked him for deciding to become a full time talk jock but I wanted to correct his view about Clintons legacy. Not to be contrarian or take away from him or Bill Clinton but they were just plain wrong and I asked I might quickly demonstrate why Clinton deserved zero Credit and when I am through who really should get the credit, without insulting anyone.

So I quickly went through them:

Contract with America, who wrote it? Newt Gingrich was his reply.

That is correct.

Now to clear the record I’ll go through them in the order I think is most powerful:

Capital Gains tax cut-
Was thought of as a response to Clintons raising of taxes and as a tool to keep the investment community well, inevesting and spurring additional investment. That was a Contract with America initiative and a well thought out position by Newt.

There was some horse trading and Newt gave away something no one really cared about to get it and the economy kept going with the result being unemployment dropping from 7% to 4% in a few short years.

The host immediately got the idea, said he would probably rephrase his thought at the end and asked me to continue.

Balanced Budget -
Again, Newt gave Clinton some bases that were already on the secondary list, devised by Dick Cheney, as alternatives for closure. Clinton got a win for his anti-military wing, we gave away something we didn’t care about and got what we wanted.

Welfare Reform -
this was the end goal all along and with a new Republican majority Congress it easily passed the House only to have Clinton veto it.

No problem. The President has the bully pulpit but was embroiled in a few distractions at the time which made it possible for Newt, Dole and few others to take their case directly to the American people who were sick of welfare queens.

Clinton was made aware the American people and the Houses were very much in the majority and very excited about reforming welfare. Still, he vetoed it again and then tried to make the argument he was going to co-opt the argument and reshape welfare reform as he saw fit.

It became very apparent the American taxpayer had, had enough and so had the houses. The pressure became to much and Clinton relented with nary a change to the original welfare reform act.

While he took credit for welfare reform it was never his idea, never became a priority until politically forced.

This was a Newt idea and part of the Contract with America which he shepherded.

Mitt has done nothing like this and I can trust Newt to follow through on his positions.

Still, I am in the Bachman(was), Santorum or Perry Camp. They just need to catch and if they cant’ then I am with Newt, all....the ...way.

Welfare Reform, the Balanced Budget and lowered taxes through capital gains tax cut.

Who has a record like that?

Who can perform like that?


11 posted on 01/05/2012 10:05:13 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: sodpoodle

Correction: Debra Saunders is the Chronicle’s Romney campaign staffer.

Saunders in her own words.. is a University of Massachusetts at Boston grad.


12 posted on 01/05/2012 10:06:29 AM PST by Goldie Lurks (professional moonbat catcher)
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To: Bulwinkle

His rise and especially his fall were precipitous but not unexpected... He’s got more baggage than Imelda Marcos.


13 posted on 01/05/2012 10:08:25 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: SoldierDad

“I do believe Gingrich has owned up to past mistakes.”

Repeatedly.


14 posted on 01/05/2012 10:09:10 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Bobalu
At this late date we require a pissed-off bull in the china shop to fix this mess.

I agree. I think Gingrich has been afraid of looking too "radical" and angry, since that was what he was criticized for when he was Speaker, but he should get over that and just charge!

15 posted on 01/05/2012 10:16:37 AM PST by livius
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To: SmithL

I’ve always liked Newt, but agree with Saunders that his post-caucus speech left much to be desired. He looked small to me.


16 posted on 01/05/2012 10:30:02 AM PST by freespirited
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To: SmithL
People know Newt can get the job done but a lot of them only want part of the job done. That's why they prefer someone without the background and experience Newt has. They figure that someone who doesn't know the system as well as Newt won't get around to goring their Ox but will be gore someone elses' ox well enough to at least change the direction we're going. Thanks to Barry Soetoro, though, it's too late to change direction and pretend that people are smart enough to continue to elect only those who will keep heading in the right direction. One good bubble and most people forget all about the ruptured duck democrat fascist policies, they just vote for feel good bunk. Newt even used that evil phrase, "means test", a few times when talking about popular programs and while that's what it will take to solve our problems, it's not what people want to hear or to have happen before they're no longer getting benefits of some sort. Mention SS and "means testing" in the same sentence and an awful lot of people who are Conservative go weak in the knees and slide toward RINO in a heartbeat even if it wouldn't apply to anyone already receiving SS.

People want someone who talks the talk but so many of them still aren't in serious pain that they're not sure they want more than talk and symbolism. If you want someone who walks the walk as well as just talking, Newt has the track record, none of the others do.

JMHO

17 posted on 01/05/2012 10:47:39 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Rashputin; TexasFreeper2009; TitansAFC; caww; PSYCHO-FREEP; Gator113; katiedidit1
BTTT

Spot on!

Only Newt Gingrich intends to make the radical changes necessary to save and restore our Republic and furthermore, only Newt Gingrich know how to get those radical changes through congress!

18 posted on 01/05/2012 11:10:19 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Nonstatist

“He’s got more baggage than Imelda Marcos.”

Yep, at his age he would, and ditto for every other one of ‘em - career politicians all.

The only question is, which one of ‘em do you think will open the right bag when he gets to the Oval Office?


19 posted on 01/05/2012 11:28:30 AM PST by ngat
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To: Rashputin

And some good point you make, IMHO.

For example - “People know Newt can get the job done but a lot of them only want part of the job done. That’s why they prefer someone without the background and experience Newt has.”

Exactly, which is why he has the establishment quaking in their boots, even willing to go nuclear on him during the Iowa caucuses, for gosh sakes, to try to knock him out early. Looks like that strategery just served to piss him off, though.

“Newt even used that evil phrase, “means test”, a few times... Mention SS and “means testing” in the same sentence and an awful lot of people who are Conservative go weak in the knees and slide toward RINO in a heartbeat”

Great point again, and you just know the media will be trying to draw Gingrich into their web on that issue before it’s all over. I hope he can avoid that trap.


20 posted on 01/05/2012 11:39:54 AM PST by ngat
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21 posted on 01/05/2012 1:26:51 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: SmithL

You want to hear him say how he likes oral from other women?? Ew.


22 posted on 01/05/2012 1:30:16 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: ngat
Yep, at his age he would, and ditto for every other one of ‘em - career politicians all.

True, that. My problem with Newt lies with his hubris and lack of discipline...As far as being able to trust him or any of the others; only so far as you can throw them.

23 posted on 01/05/2012 3:49:59 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: SoldierDad
"I do believe Gingrich has owned up to past mistakes."

And then devotes himself to making new ones.

24 posted on 01/06/2012 11:13:06 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RasterMaster

Your attempt at misinformation isn’t working. That is NOT a new mistake. That is old news. Try again.


25 posted on 01/07/2012 1:42:31 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SmithL
He has.

Newt has changed dramatically. Here are some FR links about his conversion.

Newt Gingrich: What Kind of Catholic Is He? [Born Lutheran, Turned Baptist, Now Catholic]
Newt Gingrich: America’s Next Catholic President?
Clemson Palmetto Poll finds Gingrich (38%) momentum growing, most S.C. GOP voters still uncommitted
Gingrich Threatens GOP's Chance to Nab Independents

The Evangelical Case for Newt Gingrich
Gingrich Represents New Political Era for Catholics
Gingrich Represents New Political Era for Catholics [ecumenical}
Newt Gingrich on Catholicism and JPII
Why Newt Gingrich Converted to Catholicism
Exclusive: Newt Gingrich Opens Up on Catholic Conversion and Embracing 'Overt Christianity'
Newt Gingrich on his conversion to Catholicism
Gingrich Keeps Quiet on Catholic Conversion (received into Church over the past weekend)
Exclusive: Newt Gingrich conversion details; plans release of JP2 documentary
Gingrich to Become Catholic During Easter Season
The Newt Evangelization: Gingrich to become Catholic

26 posted on 01/07/2012 2:00:22 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SoldierDad

Newt’s got a record with plenty of baggage, but looking into it is all “old news” or “misinformation” since he’s had a ‘conversion’ and now campaigning again???

Newt Gingrich: Hillary Clinton ‘Terrific’ Defense Secretary
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2010/11/newt-gingrich-hillary-clinton-terrific-defense-secretary/

Newt: Hillary Is the ‘Most Effective’ Candidate
http://archive.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/newt_hillary_is_the_most_effective_candidate

Newt: Hillary shows courage, integrity
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7851.html

Oddly, Hillary and, Yes, Newt Agree to Agree
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/13/nyregion/13hillary.html

Newt & Nancy....Gorebull Warming
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a0f_1322697042&comments=1

Newt Gingrich Al Sharpton Education Tour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPuhr8eqn0

Political Chameleon Newt Gingrich Has a History of Working with Democrats
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/02/political-chameleon-newt-gingrich-has-a-history-of-working-with-democrats.html

Right to Life -

Asked in an interview on the CBS News program “Face the Nation,” whether he agreed with Republicans who oppose Federal abortion payments in cases of rape or incest or to protect the life of a mother, Mr. Gingrich said: “No. First of all, I think you should have funding in the case of rape or incest or life of the mother, which is the first step.”

http://rightonlife.org/2011/11/24/pro-life-groups-should-say-no-to-newt-and-pooh-pooh-perry-2/

Self Defense -

“In 1996, Newt Gingrich turned his back on guns and voted for the anti-gun Brady Campaign’s Lautenberg Gun Ban, which strips the Second Amendment rights of citizens involved in misdemeanor domestic violence charges or temporary protection orders –- in some cases for actions as minor as spanking a child or grabbing a spouse’s wrist.(1)”

http://www.nationalgunrights.org/the-inconvenient-truth-about-newt/

Newt’s devotees can’t bury the baggage deep enough to make him even remotely palatable.


27 posted on 01/07/2012 5:17:29 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RasterMaster

Yada yada yada! There’s much of his “baggage that is simply trumped up garbage. If people closely looked at Reagan’s background and history, and if he were running in today’s climate, Reagan would also be bashed soundly be people like you. Which candidate would you suggest has zero baggage, and the credentials to be President? Hmmm?


28 posted on 01/09/2012 8:19:28 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad

All the current candidates have baggage, some more than others. Santorum is the best choice for President given the slate of candidates we have (Pro-life advocate). Perry is my second choice, even though he’s not polling very well. Newt has plenty of issues that would prevent me from supporting him in the primaries (gorebull warming, poor judgement, trust issues). Depending on the running mate selected, those are the only candidates I could vote for in the general election. Never Romney and no way in hell I would support a crank like Misses Paul. Any others are totally off my radar.


29 posted on 01/09/2012 10:18:41 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RasterMaster

I will vote for the GOP nominee, even if I am holding my nose while doing so.


30 posted on 01/09/2012 2:57:47 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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