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Defeating Obama: Will it take a Brokered GOP Convention? Probably! (Vanity)
January 5, 2012 | no dems

Posted on 01/05/2012 12:40:56 PM PST by no dems

I'm thinking the only way we will be able to beat Obama will be to have a brokered GOP Convention and a "dark horse" candidate rise out of the ashes. Do I think it will happen? Heck no. So, we are, as my granny used to say: "In a mell of a hess". The GOP Candidates currently running, and the drop-out, Michele Bachmann, have beaten, bruised and bloodied each other so badly that we’re going to make doggone sure we send a nominee into the General Election damaged beyond repair; making victory easy for Obama. The Dems are loving our Primary Process. It should be called the Obituary Process since we're killing off all of our candidates one by one. Now RinoRom and Paully-Wally are aiming their guns on Rick Santorum. Friendly fire is just as deadly as enemy fire.

We are determined to pull defeat from the jaws of victory. And when that happens, we will have no one to blame but ourselves.


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KEYWORDS: brokered; campaigncash; fantasyisland; getreal; growup; iowa; missouri; neverhappen; newtlautenberg; pipedream; primaryqualified; ricknotinprimaries; virginia
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I'm thinking; only a Brokered Convention and a fresh, new face, will give us a chance in November.
1 posted on 01/05/2012 12:41:06 PM PST by no dems
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To: no dems

it would truly be a stroke of genius.

which means the stupid party won’t allow it....


2 posted on 01/05/2012 12:43:02 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: no dems; indylindy

Sarah???

I thought I would post it first LOL


3 posted on 01/05/2012 12:43:09 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: no dems

Wouldn’t a brokered convention be the easiest way for the establishment to throw their candidate on us?


4 posted on 01/05/2012 12:43:52 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: no dems

A “Brokered Convention” would put the RNC/GOP “Elites” in charge and give(foist on) us Mittens. NO THANKS!


5 posted on 01/05/2012 12:44:30 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: no dems

Let’s wait until at least the Florida primary until we start talking such gibberish............


6 posted on 01/05/2012 12:46:26 PM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: sickoflibs

It won’t happen because you would have to have a candidate that could beat Obama.

If none of the ones in the race could beat him, nobody can.


7 posted on 01/05/2012 12:46:26 PM PST by dforest
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To: no dems

Cheer up, my baby sister could beat Obama as things stand now. Any of the GOP candidates currently in the mix can easily win this election, so don’t fall for the hype that tells us we must choose Romney.


8 posted on 01/05/2012 12:49:03 PM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: indylindy
RE :"It won’t happen because you would have to have a candidate that could beat Obama. If none of the ones in the race could beat him, nobody can."

Not even Sarah? Remember 'Death Panels' and 'Drill Baby Drill' ? Image the debates :)

9 posted on 01/05/2012 12:49:29 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: no dems

At this point we have no good choices. There is not a single candidate that I can vote for. Back in ‘08 I voted for McCain even though he was not a good candidate. I won’t just vote for Anyone But Obama. I refuse to settle for the candidates hand picked by the party powers.


10 posted on 01/05/2012 12:50:26 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: no dems

The problem is that too many people still pay attention to the MSM. ANY candidate we put up will be demonized as a devil worshiping, mass murdering, child molester. And a significant portion of the electorate will believe it.


11 posted on 01/05/2012 12:55:36 PM PST by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: Lloyd227

[ Cheer up, my baby sister could beat Obama as things stand now. Any of the GOP candidates currently in the mix can easily win this election, so don’t fall for the hype that tells us we must choose Romney. ]

While your baby sister could 100% win against obama, we have 1/2 the current GOP crop who could easily lose to him. Never uderestimate the stupidity of the stuipid Whig party called the GOP.


12 posted on 01/05/2012 12:56:13 PM PST by GraceG
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To: sickoflibs; indylindy

“in the race”

“Not even Sarah?”

Sarah is not now nor has she ever been “in the race.”


13 posted on 01/05/2012 12:57:04 PM PST by Grunthor (Do you worship the State or do you worship the Lord? There is no middle ground.)
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To: wolfpat

OH, and we still have to have enough votes to overcome the bogus ballots that will materialize when the Rats come up short.


14 posted on 01/05/2012 12:57:49 PM PST by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: fatnotlazy

I disagree, I think we have great choices. Either Newt, Santorum, or Perry would make a great President.

We’ve just been so busy hacking them to pieces that we’re not seeing their positives. They really are good people and I think they would try to get us back on track.

I hope we soon start to rally around them and show the world the great things about conservatives.


15 posted on 01/05/2012 12:59:17 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Red Badger

Let’s wait until at least the Florida primary until we start talking such gibberish............

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This exact statement has been threaded at least 3 times I can think of prior to the Iowa caucuses.


16 posted on 01/05/2012 1:07:40 PM PST by dmz
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To: dmz

Well, I just thought of it, so it must be good........;^)


17 posted on 01/05/2012 1:11:11 PM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Not easy at all. A very large plurality of T.E.A party sympathizers will show up at the convention, and if the Establishment RINOs try to foist off another McCain, they will face massive resistance.

This might not be a fight the Establishment RINOs want to have. They are deathly afraid of blood on the floor, especially if it is theirs.

Up to now, life in the plantation house has been pretty cozy. Not so much in the field hands’ quarters.

And the field hands are getting restless.


18 posted on 01/05/2012 1:11:48 PM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: Kenny
Either Newt, Santorum, or Perry would make a great President. We’ve just been so busy hacking them to pieces that we’re not seeing their positives.

Exactly. None of them is the perfect candidate, but they are all good candidates. Of course, there is no such animal as the perfect candidate, not even Reagan. But if we focus on the overall resumes of these candidates, we see a group that better represents the conservative viewpoint than the current establishment candidate, and also the GOP '08 candidate.

19 posted on 01/05/2012 1:14:17 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Kenny
“I think we have great choices. Either Newt, Santorum, or Perry would make a great President.”

True, but Newt not electable, Perry been having trouble stringing 3 words together...

That leaves Santorum and Romney, which is the race we are having now.

Hopefully Perry will do okay in the debates this weekend... if not he'll join Newt as unelectable

20 posted on 01/05/2012 1:18:43 PM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: no dems
This is very unlikely with most delegates pledged to a candidate these days.

Most people define brokered election as one where the candidate is not nominated on the first ballot. The last time that happened was 1948 for the Republicans and 1952 for the Democrats.

But I think you mean brokered in an older sense where the party looks past the candidates and nominates a "dark horse." The last time that happened for the Republicans was when the party bosses invited Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes to the be the candidate to heal the rift between the Taft and Roosevelt wings of the Republican Party.

I would say the last brokered convention for the Democrats was 1924. Although John Davis was technically a candidate significant support did not begin to swing his way until he emerged as a compromise candidate around the 100th ballot.

Regardless of how you define brokered convention, the last brokered candidates in both parties all lost.

21 posted on 01/05/2012 1:22:58 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: no dems
pribeus, boehner, mcconnell, cantor and the others in leadership positions of the republicon party are the ones to blame... they have had 4 years to fix the primary system... they had 4 years to come up with decent candidates and a message... and they had every opportunity to stop the attacks on Conservatives... but they were behind those attacks. You have no one to blame but those people and yourself... because you still believe that you have a party... they hate you and me more than they hate the progressives... because they are aligned with the progressives... they have been lying to us while cutting back room deals with satan.

The repungnicons do not even have a WAR ROOM setup... and they have been at war with progressive demonrats for six years. In a word... Worthless.

LLS

22 posted on 01/05/2012 1:25:53 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: Red Badger

Well, I just thought of it, so it must be good........;^)

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LOL. Not your statement, the brokered convention statement. I do so need to work on my communication skills.


23 posted on 01/05/2012 1:51:11 PM PST by dmz
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To: wolfpat

I go tthe feeling the other night that Romney’s boys knew a thing or two about “finding” ballots when their candidate needed a dozen or so to slip by Santorum.

A very smelly display. It seemed like something out of King County, WA.


24 posted on 01/05/2012 1:56:22 PM PST by Scanian
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To: no dems

I believe you are correct and some potential candidates have been on this strategey all along. That said....

Loose lips sink ships.


25 posted on 01/05/2012 2:02:29 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
To put it succinctly, the Repug Establishment values re-election more than it values VALUES!
26 posted on 01/05/2012 2:22:18 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Crony Capitalism & Union boot-licking Marxist politicians are our undoing.)
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To: Kenny

You call these guys conservatives?


27 posted on 01/05/2012 2:24:22 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: ConservativeDude

Lifelong conservative Republican here ConservativeDude,
Just for my edification,
Exactly which party is the, “stupid party”?
Cause I surely can’t tell!!!


28 posted on 01/05/2012 2:36:16 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: no dems
The 2012 GOP primaries are a marathon, not a sprint. I urge fellow FReepers to keep this in mind rather than panic over what just happened in Iowa. Read the information from the 'alternative media' because the Lame Stream Media is trying hard to pick the GOP candidate for us. Read between the lines when the talking heads on the networks spew their garbage and you will see the truth.

We don't have another Reagan in this group of candidates (I wish there were) and it doesn't look like one in the wings either. So check everything on the all the candidates and chose wisely, or else the media will pick our candidate and the country will be lost forever.

I will chose whomevery I think is the best conservative candidate in our state primary, please do likewise.

29 posted on 01/05/2012 3:15:36 PM PST by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

Yes... they only value personal wealth and power.

LLS


30 posted on 01/05/2012 3:36:23 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: no dems
Palin brought a lot of waverers back into McCain's camp last time (and drove out others).

A good VP pick -- people are talking about Marco Rubio right now -- could attract people who are on the fence.

Of course the candidate at the top of the ticket would have to be smart enough know this (and be confident enough not to be threatened by the popularity of the VP pick).

31 posted on 01/05/2012 3:39:30 PM PST by x
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Well Joe... I see it like this... we have a dim party comprised of communists and a republican party comprised of socialists.

LLS

32 posted on 01/05/2012 3:40:20 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: Red Badger

By Florida, we ought to really have everyone destroyed.


33 posted on 01/05/2012 3:49:29 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Does anyone else miss Alan Keyes?


34 posted on 01/05/2012 4:00:27 PM PST by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: Bulwinkle

Hopefully Perry will do okay in the debates this weekend...
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Yeah. The Sat. Debate is on the same time as the NFL Playoffs. Sun. Debate is on Meet The Depressed on Sun. morning; like people are going to to watch either one of these “Debates”. NO!!!


35 posted on 01/05/2012 4:14:58 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

So, what do we do? Encourage Trump to run as an Independent?


36 posted on 01/05/2012 4:16:39 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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To: x

I hate to say it, but it will probably be Romney/Rubio. I’m happy with half of that ticket.


37 posted on 01/05/2012 4:33:17 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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To: FreeInWV

Does anyone else miss Alan Keyes?
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No. Alan Keyes was no Herman Cain; except Keyes didn’t hit on white women and give money to an old broads behind his wife’s back


38 posted on 01/05/2012 4:35:15 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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To: no dems
"Does anyone else miss Alan Keyes?"

Yes, he owes me around $6,000.

39 posted on 01/05/2012 4:39:59 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: x

Rubio is NOT a natural born citizen. Therefor is NOT qualified for the office.


40 posted on 01/05/2012 4:42:14 PM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: no dems; All
The GOP is too addled and divided to field a formidable and philosophically coherent opponent against him (Obama). ---"American Spectator": George Neumayr

That's what I'm talking about.
41 posted on 01/05/2012 4:43:16 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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To: W. W. SMITH

Rubio is NOT a natural born citizen. Therefor is NOT qualified for the office.
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Well, we have a President who is not qualified either so WHO SHIVES A GIT? Hell, let’s just run an illegal immigrant for President; he’d have as much chance to win as the friggin’ meat-heads we have running now. TO HELL WITH ALL OF THEM!!!


42 posted on 01/05/2012 4:48:20 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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To: FreeInWV
I miss LEE ATWATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“I don't know who will lead us through the ‘90s, but they must be made to speak to this spiritual vacuum at the heart of American society, this tumor of the soul.”

“Good is not good, when better is expected.”

“Your life works to the degree you keep your agreements.”

“You block your dream when you allow your fear to grow bigger than your faith.”

LLS

43 posted on 01/05/2012 4:49:56 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: no dems
No... the only choice we have is to call these cowards out at every opportunity and call, write and fax them. I am doing so now. We must purge the republican party of the progressive virus that infects her and it is a long term goal... we must primary every rino possible... it will take a half dozen elections to purge them all. We make it too painful to ignore us and we make certain that we call them out on every single instance of their bullsh!t.

LLS

44 posted on 01/05/2012 4:54:37 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: no dems
The GOP is too addled and divided to field a formidable and philosophically coherent opponent against him (Obama). ---"American Spectator": George Neumayr

Parties are always "addled" and "divided," but sometimes a superior candidate can manage to impress the voters and prevail over the others. That hasn't happened this time -- certainly not yet.

"Philosophical coherence"? Sometimes that works. Sometimes you can find it. Reagan, I guess. But it was more Carter's lousy performance that mattered.

You could have a very philosophically coherent candidate and still lose. Goldwater's a good example. Purism in itself doesn't open the door to the White House.

45 posted on 01/05/2012 4:56:36 PM PST by x
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To: no dems
That represents obamacare continuing in some tweaked form and some type of Amnesty.

LLS

46 posted on 01/05/2012 4:56:46 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: no dems

It is an option.


47 posted on 01/05/2012 6:12:29 PM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: no dems
Ryan/Jindal

oh please, oh please

48 posted on 01/05/2012 9:09:39 PM PST by reflecting (ui)
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To: no dems
Ryan/Jindal

oh please, oh please

49 posted on 01/05/2012 9:09:53 PM PST by reflecting (ui)
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To: no dems
Ryan/Jindal

oh please, oh please

50 posted on 01/05/2012 9:09:56 PM PST by reflecting (ui)
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