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To: yank in the UK
Why would any senate move to outlaw what someone says... Unless it were true? If it is only silly falsehoods why ban it?

Are you trying to side with Turkey on this one by denying the Armenian Genocide? Thats what it sounds like you're saying...

9 posted on 01/05/2012 1:26:29 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Side with turkey? I don't have a side in this, if it happened, and there is evidence that it happened.. Then it happened. What I am questioning is why would someone ban the denial of an event, if there is plenty of evidence of it? Sounds stupid to me.
Are they punishing people that deny an event all together, or are they outlawing anyone denying THEIR version of events? To ban speech that is false seems stupid to me?
12 posted on 01/05/2012 1:36:39 PM PST by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Regulars may tire of seeing this (below) but as far as I know it is still true; to wit, the issue of the "genocide" is for the purposes of pursuing world opinion to increase chances that a world "court" will order the modern Republic of Turkey to turn over territory and wealth to Armenia.

As far a I recall Turkey does not deny the horrors but will not describe it as genocide. Turkey also disputes the death count and points to the huge number of Turks killed during the W.W.I hostilities that had Russia and Armenia battling Germany and the Ottoman Empire.

It would be far better IMO if Armenia would just come out and admit this rather than year-after-year, country-after-country demand resolutions condemning modern Turkey for something that happened 100 years ago before modern Turkey existed. To wit,

Recognition of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey is a secondary issue – interview with Harut Sassounian

"the admission of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey is an issue of secondary importance for us. The following issue must be raised: a cruel crime was committed against the Armenian people. The whole nation was actually annihilated, our lands were seized and our 3,000-year-old culture was destroyed. This is not only a cruel crime, but also a great injustice. Therefore, our true demand is compensation for this injustice. The world must know about what happened, and we have to a great extent succeeded. The Turkish side is well aware that the step to follow the admission of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey will be a demand for compensation and return of the lands. This is the reason why Turkey will not admit the Armenian Genocide . . . ."

So what happens now? the Kurds also demand the same territory -- who by the way were also guilty of murdering thousands of Armenians -- as well was Kaiser Wilhelm II German Emperor aware and, some say, abetted the attempted extermination of Russia's ally, the Armenians.

I recall that the article (that I linked) admits that Turkey acknowledges the deaths. The horrors did in fact happen. There are elsewhere claims of hundreds of thousands of Turk civilians killed also.. the real issue seems to be territory and retribution demanded of modern Turkey.

(Lawsuits have forced insurance companies to pay Armenians in recent years.)

BTW, speaking of murdering the Armenian people and destroying Armenian culture -- how many Armenians were killed when the Bolsheviks took over and, I think, made Armenia the first Soviet "republic" established outside of Russia?

15 posted on 01/05/2012 1:46:09 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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