Skip to comments.WSJ: Can Perry Come Back?
Posted on 01/05/2012 1:16:43 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
National conservative leaders are wondering who, if anyone, can stop Mitt Romney from walking off with the Republican nomination after his narrow win in Iowa and his expected comfortable victory in New Hampshire next week. The name that keeps surfacing is Rick Perry, which says a lot about the desperation that the anti-Romney forces are feeling now.
Perry insiders say that the plausible course forward for the candidate is to make this a one-on-one race with Mr. Romney so that the conservative vote doesn't split in two, three or four ways.
South Carolina has a history of deciding the eventual GOP primary winner. If Mr. Perry can take first or second place, he can live to fight another day and prepare for Super Tuesday, when voters in the bulk of Southern states go to the polls. Perry supporters also say that a comeback depends on his ability to make this a North versus South race. They say that three-quarters of Republican voters aren't sold on Mr. Romney. The problem for Mr. Perry, of course, is that even more voters aren't sold on him, either, in part because he has done such a lousy job of educating voters about his admirable record on jobs and growth in Texas.
Many conservative leaders that I talked to after the Iowa caucuses are rallying around the latest flash, Rick Santorum. But others have concluded that despite all of his debate mishaps and his poorly run campaign thus far, Mr. Perry may be the only Republican candidate capable of beating Mr. Romney. As one campaign aide told me: "We have to make a good second impression."
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Dead armadillo bounce is more like it.
Lets address the elephant in the room, shall we? Outside the gaffes, mandates and illegal love, the real reason he has not gained support is simple:
People don’t want Bush 2.0 and that’s exactly how Perry will be portrayed by the MSM- and it will work.
The country still has Bush fatigue.
Perry never had a chance, and sadly, so many here were relying on a Palin endorsement that never (or will never) come.
Perry has had how many comebacks now and to what end? He is still polling in single digits and had an embarrassing 5th place finish in Iowa. Buy a clue, Ricardo.
That must be the latest ‘blame’ talking point from the Perry camp. It has been repeated heavily in the past two days.
They all live in the DC bubble. It won't change. We'll just have to ignore it and work at the grass roots level to overcome it and educate the masses. Fox is the worst one because they have such a big group of conservative voters who may listen to their Romney-fest and take it as gospel.
"Well, if Fox News said we should go with Romney, then it must be true!"
We have our work cut out for us.
Slick Rick’s comeback: polling 0% in the latest NH poll. LOL!
Goose egg for Perry!
I recall a while back posting a critique in a thread that was touting Perry’s 5th or 6th ‘comeback’ and he’s done nothing but go downhill since. Seriously, that was months ago. He has to be on comeback #10 by now. If the first 9 failed, what chance does #10 have?
It will work because it will be so easy to do.
I’m sure you’ve heard the old adage about doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results. At some point this has to dawn on Perry supporters. The longer it takes... well... we can’t force them to acknowledge reality. My heart goes out to them.
Say what, partner? McCain? I can’t stand McCain or anything he says lately. Period.
I will vote for Perry if he's still standing by the time New York votes, but sheesh. His record in Texas is all he talks about. I don't think he can do much more.
So does mine.
But hey, they'll ALL come around eventually when Perry clears his mind and endorses the anti-Willard conservative... NEWTORUM!!
ZERO in NH and single digits nationally means Americans, Republicans, conservatives and certainly Granite Staters are completely uninterested in a Perry presidency. His staying in the race is only helping Romney.
The country still has Bush fatigue.
Please God I can't go through another cycle of "dumb cowboy" jokes. Rick's worst problem is being from TX 4 years after Bush left the White House. He should have waited 4 or 8 years.
I call shenanigans on that poll.
There has to be at least one human being in NH for Perry.
I am saying 3 things, first, starting with Nixon who won the radio debate with Kennedy but lost the TV debate because he had a touch of the flu and a 4pm razor shadow. TV and marketing are unfortunately the way most candidates make the sale.
Second yes he was interviewed and said he should have postponed his back surgery.
I ruptured a disk on my back and also was on Vicodin for 3 months so I know that's why his debate performance was so bad at first. And lastly no it is not an excuse for the dumb things he has done as Gov like executive orders for girl vaccines and other dumb ideas. Still I like the guy and think he would be a good president, and I did support more conservative candidates in the primary against him.
Duh, perry staying in at this point helps that man, willard, splitting the vote.
In a state where Pail,Romney and Huntsman poll 2/3 , why would you expect any votes for a very conservative Southern governor?
YES, he can!
GO PERRY GO!
What an excellent idea. I think we should all write to them and suggest that very thing. I have been thinking bout writing the FEC and having them monitor it. They’re giving him free campaign advertising.
Really? How? By taking delegates away from the other conservatives?
Or do you not realize that after a candidate drops out, they can instruct their delegates to vote for the person they endorse?
So if Romney gets 25% of the delegates nationwide, he’d have to find a way to scrounge 25% more, should no one hit the magic 50.0001%.
And vice-versa. Between Perry, Newt, and Santorum, they can hash out who’d get their delegates votes... overwhelming the 25% for Romney.
I’d say that, at least, one of the three will have to drop out after Super Tuesday... so their delegates would be up for grabs.
So, what’s that about ‘splitting the vote’?
After demolishing the phony Willard by about 10 points in Iowa (thanks to the conservatives/evangelicals of IA)...
10 1/2 year Southern Conservative/Evangelical Huck went on over to athiestic New Hampshire (less churches per capita than any other state) AND came in a strong third — leading up to SC where Huck drew 30%+ of the vote with the lion’s share AMONG CONSERVATIVES and CHRISTIANS. But in 3rd place but waaaaaaaaaaay back of Huck, Sleepy Freddy Thompson took enough (15% max) to allow his friend, Mushy Moderate McCain to squeak out a win over the conservative Huck, 33%-30%. I was there campaigning my butt off even on snowy election day.
Will Romney be this year’s McCain in South Carolina? Not if evangelical conservatives unite.
I believe at least one is being paid and some just love their governor and can’t understand why America doesn’t love him also. Of course there are some who love ILLEGALs. You can tell who those are by their eagerness to attack anyone who doesn’t support Perry calling us ‘ILLEGAL haters’ (we were called ‘Mexican haters’ until it was pointed out that many ILLEGALs were not Mexican). I’m not sure why any FReeper wouldn’t be anti-ILLEGAL alien unless of course they really aren’t conservative and/or they want want their Tio Juan to become legal. Who knows. One thing is certain, though; holding out hope for a candidate who has been in perpetual free fall in the polls, placed 5th in Iowa and is polling ZERO in NH is a lost cause.
Now you are being childish. Threatening to tell the teacher or what?
I hardly think Jim Robinson is interested in banning honest discussion about the virtues of one candidate over another.
Splitting the CONSERVATIVE EVANGELICAL vote in SC and even FL is stupid.
And deep down Perry knows it. As does Willard who he will be helping WIN by staying in.
Pal, if Willard wins SC & FL, we’re dead in November. Obama wins. End of story.
Why do you say that, Neil?
I mean everyone else has been up and down with no clear favorite, why not Rick Perry?
I would love Perry to have a comeback. By the time we vote here in Colorado, it will be more clear whether that’s going to happen. In the meantime, I’m planning to vote Santorum. Though I think Perry’s chances are much better in a general election, it remains to be seen if he can win the nomination.
I live in Dallas also. I like Perry. I resent (tho you didn’t do it) people trying to paint him as a spoiler.
Is Santorum a spoiler? Is Newt? Rick Perry has better credentials than either of them and he has money and loyal supporters.
He certainly has a right to run. I’m glad he stayed in. It would be a pretty dull race without him.
The Dallas Morning News had some really snarky articles about him today, one of them parroting the Politico thing about rumors from “unnamed” persons within his campaign.
The Dallas Morning News hates Perry. It’s a liberal rag.
I shouldn’t even respond to you, but can’t you even see the lack of logic in your post.
Why don’t Rick S. and Newt drop out now and support a better candidate?
Well, whose record should Rick Perry talk about? He doesn’t have a record in New York.
He has an outstanding record in Texas and has proved to be a leader and a consistent conservative.
Sorry to be NEGATIVE about other candidates, but Rick Perry is the only candidate with a record to run on.
He hasn’t just talked about conservative values. He’s done them in Texas.
I think you may have meant that reply for CW instead of me, since it was her quote you used.
He has a good record in Texas from what I understand. I would have no trouble voting for him if he was the Republican nominee. However, I prefer Newt until he wins or drops out. I think Newt still has a chance.
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People here are so fickle and shallow it scares me.
We’ve had zero primaries. We had one caucus - the results of which almost never name the eventual candidate. I understand Rick S. spent a year having Sunday dinner with everyone in Iowa.
One Santorum supporter admitted to me that his support was more based on not liking anyone else than it was on liking Santorum
The support for various candidates here on Free Republic has been schizophrenic. And wild.
First it was Palin (guilty here on that). She didn’t run. In looking for comfort people here glommed onto an unlikely and eventually futile semi-worship of Mr. Cain.
He was forced to drop out. Immediately, the Cain people rushed to Newt Gingrich, a man who was reviled by conservatives as little as a year ago. I like Newt and he was fun in the debates, but he lost it over negative advertising and when he finally responded, he acted like a madman.
Now, after one rather inconsequential victory in a caucus, the lemmings have landed on Santorum, who wasn’t even a blip on the radar a week ago.
And suddenly if we want someone besides those two flawed and vulnerable candidates (Newt and Santorum) we’re taking votes away from worthy conservatives and handing them to Mitt?
Please give me a break. Perry is a better candidate and would have a much better chance against Obama.
I agree that Perry’s military record will score a lot of points with voters in the south. Wouldn’t hurt for him to introduce his cotton farmer mom and dad to the national audience either. Perry has so much going for him, he just needs to get it out there — and he will.
Sorry for taking so long to ping this, I was carried away on another project for Rick Perry.
figuring out Herman Cain wasn’t “rocket science” either, but a lot of folks fell for it.
Sorry doesn’t cut it, shield! While you were off somewhere gadding about the naysayers and the lamebrains permeated this thread with no one to refute their idiocy!
Just kidding. You do gret work.
The “dumb cowboy joke” got G.W. Bush 8 years in the White House, so I won’t mind more of the same.
Sad but true. There are people in the country and on this forum who hate Texas.
I can understand hating, say, Califoria or maybe Illinois, but Texas??
I'm sure it's Rupert (open borders) Murdock who has pushed this. I've lost all respect for the man.
Those initial debates did not help him. However, not everyone watches them as closely as those here. He can still do it.