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Was jealousy a factor in Top Gun killings?
msnbc.com ^ | 1/5/12 | NBC News and news services

Posted on 01/05/2012 5:42:25 PM PST by ColdOne

SAN DIEGO — San Diego County investigators trying to determine a motive behind a New Year's Day murder-suicide involving two Navy pilots and two other people are looking at whether jealousy may have played a role.

Sheriff's Capt. Duncan Fraser said Thursday investigators are looking at all aspects, including whether there was a relationship between one of the pilot's sisters who was also killed and the Navy pilot who committed suicide.

John Robert Reeves, 25, shot himself in the head, and the three others with him were murdered, the San Diego County Sheriff's Department said, citing autopsy results. Fellow Navy pilot David Reis, also 25, was killed by a gunshot wound to the torso, and his 24-year-old sister, Karen, suffered a gunshot wound to the head and chest, officials said. Matthew Saturley, 31, of suburban Chula Vista, was shot multiple times.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: coronado; murder; murders; navair; navy; navypilots; suicide; usn; usnavy
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To: BunnySlippers
They said the shooter was Reeves.

Actually, they didn't say that.

They said Reeves shot himself, but declined to say if he murdered the others.

Yes this appears to be the case, but they have not come out and said that.

21 posted on 01/05/2012 6:51:56 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BunnySlippers
I suspect you need to read multiple news articles nationwide to get the better story. It appears to be straight forward story

Not according to this article. And I am unable to read multiple articles at once, nor do I care to.

If ya got a link that says Reeves murdered them all, please post it. I'm confident that is the case, but have yet to see them say so.

22 posted on 01/05/2012 6:54:42 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I am merely saying you lack awareness of basic details of the case.

I don’t care if you do not wish to know the currant facts.


23 posted on 01/05/2012 6:59:45 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers
I am merely saying you lack awareness of basic details of the case.

Uh, I'm the one who had to correct you here.

You clearly stated, "They said the shooter was Reeves."

That is not what this article stated nor what those interviewed stated.

lol...

24 posted on 01/05/2012 7:02:33 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

THAT is where you flaunt your ignorance. Read the news.

LOL


25 posted on 01/05/2012 7:06:46 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers
I am merely saying you lack awareness of basic details of the case.

Uh, I'm the one who had to correct you here.

You clearly stated, "They said the shooter was Reeves."

That is not what this article stated nor what those interviewed stated.

THAT is where you flaunt your ignorance. Read the news.

I am reading the news, this article right here, right now. LOL!...wow.

If ya got something that says "They said the shooter was Reeves", please post it!

26 posted on 01/05/2012 7:10:18 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Do you base your opinion on one article?

I like to watch you wallow. I will not do your bidding. Wallow freely.


27 posted on 01/05/2012 7:12:47 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers
Do you base your opinion on one article?

Good grief bunny...Ya got to keep up.

I base my comments on the article I'm reading, right here, right now.

Ya got something that says Reeves killed them all, post it!

(((wow))

28 posted on 01/05/2012 7:15:41 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Egads, I will not do your research. I applaud your rugged ignorance.


29 posted on 01/05/2012 7:18:45 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers
Here is what this article and the news are saying, right here, right now:

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""John Robert Reeves, 25, shot himself in the head, and the three others with him were murdered""

""Sheriff's Capt. Duncan Fraser declined to say if Reeves was the shooter, explaining that "we don't have forensic evidence yet to say that definitively."" _________________________________________________________

Did the ignorant bunny catch that?

Do you know what declined means? How about definitively?

Does the ignorant bunny understand words actually mean things?

30 posted on 01/05/2012 7:23:02 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

You are a posting dunce! In the corner for you!

LOL


31 posted on 01/05/2012 7:28:25 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Ignorant bunny won’t admit when it’s wrong.

Bad bunny!


32 posted on 01/05/2012 7:32:48 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I cannot solve your problems. They are inherent in your personality.

Good luck.


33 posted on 01/05/2012 7:34:40 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Dumb bunny...No carrot for you!


34 posted on 01/05/2012 7:36:08 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
"Actually, they didn't say that.

They said Reeves shot himself, but declined to say if he murdered the others.

Yes this appears to be the case, but they have not come out and said that.

What's the point you're trying to make here?

The cops won't confirm who shot who until they've done ballistics testing on all four firearms found in the home. This takes time. Until then, it's pretty obvious what happened. We know that Reeves entered the condo first at a little after 2:00 am. Shortly thereafter, Karen Reis and Matthew Saturley entered. Then gunfire was heard. David Reis then entered the home and more gunfire was heard. At 2:20 am the 911 call was made by an individual who remained outside the condo. Reeves was found with a self-inflicted gunshot to the head.

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure this one out. The cops know what happened, they know Reeves was the gunman. They just can't confirm this publicly until all the testing has been done.

35 posted on 01/05/2012 7:39:43 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
What's the point you're trying to make here?

Read back, I could not be any clearer and my point was made repeatedly.

This article clearly did not say Reeves murdered them all and investigators at this point, have held off definitively stating that. Yes he is likely the murderer, but they have yet to state that. Simple.

It's not complex.

36 posted on 01/05/2012 7:54:25 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ColdOne

...uh...if Reeves shot himself in the head...wouldn’t that make him the shooter?

...stirring slowly...he, he, he...


37 posted on 01/05/2012 8:16:18 PM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: moovova
Yes it would make it likely. But again, according to the article, and the investigators they cannot definitively state he is the murderer at this time.

Yeah, he likely murdered them all, however, there is always a chance he didn't. Trust me, stranger things have happened and this is delayed until all the evidence tells them that.

Simply put, until their investigation is completed, they won't definitively tell ya who the murderer was and or what the likely motive was.

I personally am more interested in the motive.

38 posted on 01/05/2012 8:48:45 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Sorry, I couldn’t resist poking. :-)

But, you’re right. “Why?” is the big question.


39 posted on 01/06/2012 6:45:51 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: moovova
You might direct that at the poster you actually responded to in 37.

But, you’re right.

Yes, I know.

40 posted on 01/06/2012 8:53:39 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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