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How Liberalism May Be Hurting Comic Book Sales
BleedingCool.com ^ | January 5, 2012 | by Darin Wagner

Posted on 01/06/2012 5:34:36 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

If you are a conservative like me, you’ve been reading fewer and fewer comic books over the last 12 years. For those of you who know what I’m talking about, the weekly visit to the comic book shop has become either an exercise in irritation or a monotonous drill.

You pick up a superhero comic book featuring a childhood favorite of yours, hoping to reignite some of that magic you felt way back when and you see that the opening sequence in the comic deals with an oil rig disaster. You immediately and disappointingly know what’s going to be said, either by your childhood favorite or by some other character given credibility within the story. You turn the page, and sure enough, your childhood favorite grumbles about his/her country’s dependency on oil or how inherently dangerous oil drilling is to the environment and how it’s not worth it or simply mutters to him-or-herself briefly about the evils of corporate America. That’s when you put the comic back on the shelf and your local retailer loses a sale. (Sound familiar? Brightest Day #5 contained a similar scenario featuring Aquaman.)

You pick up another comic book featuring a superhero team you used to really enjoy and there’s a member on the team who shares a lot of the same socio-political views you do, but he doesn’t articulate them very well (by design, you can tell) and gets everything wrong (again, by design) and you realize that he’s the “team jackass” precisely because he is supposed to represent you. (Another Brightest Day example of this; issue #7 where Steve Ditko creation Hawk says he wrecked a restaurant’s juke box because it was playing a Dixie Chicks song. Hawk was created to represent conservatism during the Vietnam War era, but today he’s apparently a reckless caveman who doesn’t understand the very conservative idea of private property rights.) So you put that comic book back on the shelf and if you haven’t walked out by now, you’re sure to get at least three more experiences like these before finding a superhero comic that is, at best, not very political.

We see this all the time, don’t we? Black Canary just happens to make a comment about how supposedly unsafe SUVs are while pursuing a villain in one in the pages of Birds Of Prey. Over on the Marvel side, in the pages of Alpha Flight, a Canadian man parks in front of a fire hydrant while attempting to vote and he’s given a ticket for doing so. The man accuses the cop (Snowbird’s alter ego) of voter suppression and how she’s “harassing the patriots who are trying to change things”… to which she responds “Please, sir. We’re Canadian.”

Sure these little jabs and nods are individually nothing that can’t be dismissed… but they have a cumulative effect. They wear us down and eventually the excitement and magic of comic book superheroes becomes outweighed by our being annoyed. It’s happening more and more over the last dozen years: The people behind the scenes allowing their personal politics to bleed through into the stories of otherwise apolitical superheroes whose adventures are meant for everyone to enjoy. This in-and-of-itself wouldn’t be quite so bad if it weren’t always the same political views repeated over-and-over ad nauseum.

Simply put, there’s too much liberalism in comic books today....

I know comics are created by artists. I know that Marvel and DC offices are in New York City. I realized before I started typing this that asking for authentic conservatism in comic books from the Big Two to counter constant jabs, references and snide, preachy copy they print is like asking the mob to please leave garbage alone. I get that…

…but for the good of the comic book industry, this escalation and domination of liberal sentiment has got to stop and it’s gotta stop quick.

Everybody knows that when an entertainer goes political, he/she runs the very serious risk of cutting their audience by at least half. The comic book audience has been getting smaller and smaller and I think it’s time to honestly consider that a big part of the problem is the content...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: book; comic; sales

1 posted on 01/06/2012 5:34:47 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The NEW Spiderman is gay.........


2 posted on 01/06/2012 5:37:46 PM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

hey surely someone has a superhero in his pen or trackball which does justice to “old fashioned” causes. what’s a disaster for liberals (and it might be the influence of the publishers as much as or more than that of the artists) might be a gold mine for someone else.


3 posted on 01/06/2012 5:39:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Red Badger

thpiderman!


4 posted on 01/06/2012 5:40:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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5 posted on 01/06/2012 5:43:00 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I'd say the article is 40 years too late...

DC Comics went on the hippie bandwagon long ago. It certainly drove me away then. (I was never really a Marvel guy, for some reason.)

6 posted on 01/06/2012 5:43:35 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It’s not just comic books, but movies, everything. Hell, look what’s happened to Ann Coulter.


7 posted on 01/06/2012 5:46:00 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I can’t read anything by DC because they’ve become a bunch of preachy left wing goofballs.

Most everything by Marvel sucks too except the recent Punisher series.

Interestingly, there’s a ton of good stuff being released by small comic publishers and a lot of manga is pretty good.


8 posted on 01/06/2012 5:47:48 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I never cared for superhero comics. In my youth I preferred Roy Rogers or Gene Autry and THE CISCO KID.
In my teens I collected the CLASSICS ILLUSTRATED comics and some THRILLER or good Sifi along with COMBAT comics.


9 posted on 01/06/2012 5:50:33 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: LibWhacker

“Hell, look what’s happened to Ann Coulter.” And Noonan——”Noonan: Newt an angry ‘attack muffin’”


10 posted on 01/06/2012 5:50:58 PM PST by radioone ("2012 can't come soon enough")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It’s been 55 years since I read a comic book.


11 posted on 01/06/2012 5:58:14 PM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’d be interested in seeing anything new from Frank Miller, who has become quite conservative since 9/11, especially recently.

The DUmmies have been seriesly hating on him due to some of the posts on his blog recently.

Mark


12 posted on 01/06/2012 5:58:29 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Couldn’t agree more with over 20000 books they have pretty much forced me into only buying older books - though I’m sorely tempted by some of the artistry in the new books it just cannot overcome the political swing and dead story lines - there was a time when green arrow and others were the libs that took on the remaining crew (70s) in DC and seemed to be more balanced but that time is long past. Now the story lines are all about grandiose large scale epics with minimal character development or plotlines. So I seek out the holes in my collection instead. Sigh...


13 posted on 01/06/2012 5:59:56 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Red Badger
The NEW Spiderman is gay.........

Why can't they leave well enough alone? What about his girlfriend Mary Jane or will his boyfriend be names "Marvin-John?"
14 posted on 01/06/2012 6:00:25 PM PST by Nowhere Man ("People should not fear their government, their government should fear the people." - V for Vendetta)
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To: reed13k

I love this from the article as I use it often:

“Now, you might say, “Darin, you’re obviously unaware that Green Arrow is based on Robin Hood and as EVERYBODY ELSE KNOWS, Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor. He’d be an Occupier today.” Well, yeah, that’s how those on the left view Robin Hood… but if you look more closely at Robin Hood you will find that the character more accurately stole from the state and gave back to the people… so one could just as easily say that Robin Hood would be a Tea Partier today and, therefore, Green Arrow could be too.”

It’s a good article for those interested in the area.


15 posted on 01/06/2012 6:06:30 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: reed13k

I love this from the article as I use it often:

“Now, you might say, “Darin, you’re obviously unaware that Green Arrow is based on Robin Hood and as EVERYBODY ELSE KNOWS, Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor. He’d be an Occupier today.” Well, yeah, that’s how those on the left view Robin Hood… but if you look more closely at Robin Hood you will find that the character more accurately stole from the state and gave back to the people… so one could just as easily say that Robin Hood would be a Tea Partier today and, therefore, Green Arrow could be too.”

It’s a good article for those interested in the area.


16 posted on 01/06/2012 6:06:38 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: MarkL

Yeah Alan Moore had the gall to say comics were too conservative. But neither has produced much since their heyday in the 80s and 90s.


17 posted on 01/06/2012 6:09:08 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

A complete 180 degree turn from the glory days when Stan Lee was writing every Marvel title in the sixties: Half the villains were Communists (Crimson Dynamo, the Red Ghost, etc.). Those days (and their enormous sales) are long gone.


18 posted on 01/06/2012 6:20:03 PM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I used to love the Avengers when I was a kid. Thor and the Scarlet Witch were my favorites. Now she is insane and he comes off like a pansy. Wouldn’t waste my cash on any of the new comics.


19 posted on 01/06/2012 6:20:49 PM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Retired Chemist

Mid to late 80s mostly and the only one I liked was GI Joe. However some of the Devil’s Due and one other after that weren’t too bad.

I can live with Wikipedia summaries of comic book characters.


20 posted on 01/06/2012 6:22:02 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

bookmark


21 posted on 01/06/2012 6:23:05 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: denydenydeny

I popped this one of Stan at the last Dragoncon during the mass costume contest at long range. That was fun watching the people dress up.

http://tysonneil.smugmug.com/Events/Dragoncon-2011/18887174_vV3p6D#!i=1466962524&k=bdS4m4N


22 posted on 01/06/2012 6:25:04 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Uhhh ... maybe he's reading fewer comic books than he did 12 years ago because he's 12 years older?

That would be a sufficient explanation for most people over about 15 years of age.

23 posted on 01/06/2012 6:27:36 PM PST by sphinx
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The only comic books we ever had were “Classics llustrated”.


24 posted on 01/06/2012 6:40:47 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
First of all, what I remember is that classic comic books (superheroes) were for kids. Most of us outgrew them. This new world of adult comic books baffles me.

Is illiteracy that widespread? Has the intrusion of the perverts into mainstream society affected also "comic books?" I keep reading rumors that that is the case.

25 posted on 01/06/2012 6:56:00 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
If you are a conservative like me, you’ve been reading fewer and fewer comic books over the last 12 years.

I stopped reading comic books when I was about 11 years old. At the time, I probably would have thought a conservative was a sweet topping made from fruit for a biscuit or a slice of toast.

26 posted on 01/06/2012 7:19:09 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Publius6961
First of all, what I remember is that classic comic books (superheroes) were for kids. Most of us outgrew them. This new world of adult comic books baffles me.

Is illiteracy that widespread? Has the intrusion of the perverts into mainstream society affected also "comic books?" I keep reading rumors that that is the case.

You may be on to something.


27 posted on 01/06/2012 7:24:50 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I never cared for superhero comics. In my youth I preferred Roy Rogers or Gene Autry and THE CISCO KID. In my teens I collected the CLASSICS ILLUSTRATED comics and some THRILLER or good Sifi along with COMBAT comics.

I guess the comic I collected most was Conan the Barbarian. I liked a lot of Marvel, including Thor, Fantastic Four, Daredevil. It's been decades since I've bought any.

28 posted on 01/06/2012 7:27:26 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

They’ve been putting snarky liberal crap for 30 years at least. I remember the final straw back in 1991 for me when characters in Batman commented on the 10,000 Americans killed in the Oil War, during the first Golf War.

This was while it was still going on and I just quit right then. Cancelled all my orders for future comics and sold off my collection during the next 3 years and haven’t really read one since.


29 posted on 01/06/2012 7:31:16 PM PST by packrat35 (Heartless)
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To: wally_bert

Sorry, but that Edward James Olmos is a flaming lib whacko.


30 posted on 01/06/2012 7:34:08 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Publius6961

As a comics pro myself, I would argue that there is nothing inherently “infantile” about the medium of comics, it’s a medium just like film, prose books and music are media. Infantile subject matter? Cardboard characters? Definitely, in the case of DC and Marvel. But check out Will Eisner to see the best of what can be expressed this way. He could put more substance in an eight-page story than most “serious writers” could manage in entire novels.


31 posted on 01/06/2012 7:38:35 PM PST by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: 1010RD

I know but my wife was a huge BSG fan. Me not so much. Hanging with Martin Landau for a few minutes (regardless of politics - I don’t know) was quite fun.


32 posted on 01/06/2012 7:43:01 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Libs slip the propaganda in everywhere. I was watching some doc about Area 51 on NatGeo tonight, and naturally the narrator talked about “cold war paranoia” as if the Russians posed no threat whatsoever. You’ll find lib propaganda in virtually every phase of American culture. I haven’t read comics for almost fifty years, so personally, it’s no big loss. But kids reading them now are probably getting a good dose of leftist slop slipped in whenever possible.


33 posted on 01/06/2012 7:43:01 PM PST by driftless2
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
>"You immediately and disappointingly know what’s going to be said,... "

I suggest you stop buying the rope they are using to hang you.

34 posted on 01/06/2012 7:47:33 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: coydog

Big dittoes on Eisner. What a talent; what a storyteller.


35 posted on 01/06/2012 8:48:23 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Groo. Did I err?


36 posted on 01/07/2012 1:33:43 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The author obviously missed this from Obama in 2009.

EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda (latest -Breitbart)

Should the National Endowment for the Arts encourage artists to create art on issues being vehemently debated nationally?

That is the question that I set out to discuss a little over three weeks ago when I wrote an article on Big Hollywood entitled The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion?”

The question still requires debate but the facts do not.

The NEA and the White House did encourage a handpicked, pro-Obama arts group to address politically controversial issues under contentious national debate. That fact is irrefutable.

The Obama administration purposefully reached out to the "arts" community to intentionally insert those messages into the works that people will see.

It was done to support Obama and his agenda.

-PJ

37 posted on 01/10/2012 9:12:58 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I have no doubt Obama would do that with the NEA. However, I have my doubts that the NEA is overseeing or funding comic books from giant corporations like Disney and Warner Brothers. More likely it’s just a case of lib writers pushing their agenda on their own


38 posted on 01/11/2012 5:13:55 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

"Comic books...never read 'em..."


39 posted on 01/11/2012 5:28:42 AM PST by Jonah Hex ("To Serve Manatee" is a cookbook!)
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